• Woman had drunken sex with four boys - and escapes jail sentence
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gj fugly biatch
[QUOTE=Contag;32875216]uh... explain then?[/QUOTE] I'm talking about the woman who had sex with the kids
[QUOTE=Contag;32875216]yup, you're right, you, a british commenter, know more about the Victorian criminal justice system than a Victorian majoring in criminology under a guy who spend the last two decades investigating the victorian criminal justice system also, the source is OP is the Australian equivalent of the daily mail[/QUOTE] He was talking about what people would think of him. Are you saying that in Australia no-one hates paedophiles?
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;32875524]He was talking about what people would think of him. Are you saying that in Australia no-one hates paedophiles?[/QUOTE] People don't think about child sex offenders (see mass debate for the difference), until they are sensationalized by shit media outlets like daily mail and the herald sun if the only difference in the case was that he was male, he would most likely receive the same sentence Anecdotally, female violence in maximum prisoners is greater than male violence. besides if you want prisoners to be beaten you're a fucking shitbag who should move to Saudi Arabia
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;32875524]He was talking about what people would think of him. Are you saying that in Australia no-one hates paedophiles?[/QUOTE] He's not saying that. He's addressing the claims that this woman escaped justice purely on the basis of her gender, and nothing else. Most of the people who are making these claims are not Australian. That's not to say they have nothing to add to the discussion, but if you're not Australian, then you don't have an entirely accurate view of the justice system here, and how fair (or unfair) it is.
This gave me a rager.
im going to rape some hoes and murder five people. its okay, i have low self esteem.
[QUOTE=stealth_camo;32871892][b]Judge Sue Pullen[/b] problem right there[/QUOTE] What? Just because she is a woman she automatically sympathizes women's cases? Maybe you meant that the judge herself was the problem, which she is, but it seemed to me like you were implying that her being a woman was an issue
"Crime Victims Support Association president Noel McNamara said the sentence was a disgrace. "If it was a man on those charges it would have been a different story," he said." Wahh, men are oppressed.
Shouldn't the opinion of the "victims" be taken into account here? The 12 year old is horrible no matter what, but, I mean, as a 15 year old, I would have probably killed to have some older woman liquor me up and bang me.
middle class white males are being oppressed by bitches ;-;
If she was a man and the kids were either gender this story would be [B]completely[/B] different.
[QUOTE=Regulas021;32877687]Shouldn't the opinion of the "victims" be taken into account here? The 12 year old is horrible no matter what, but, I mean, as a 15 year old, I would have probably killed to have some older woman liquor me up and bang me.[/QUOTE] Why did you write victims with quotation marks? Because they are not real victims? I think it is really sick how you can actually think how this would be a pleasant event for any of them. What you are doing is feeding this whole paradox of "Women who rape men have justified reasons/it's awesome"
[QUOTE=Mooe94;32877973]Why did you write victims with quotation marks? Because they are not real victims? I think it is really sick how you can actually think how this would be a pleasant event for any of them. What you are doing is feeding this whole paradox of "Women who rape men have justified reasons/it's awesome"[/QUOTE] Because I certainly wouldn't have felt victimized at that age. If they do, then take it into account. If they don't, I think that has relevance to the case.
[QUOTE=Regulas021;32878194]Because I certainly wouldn't have felt victimized at that age. If they do, then take it into account. If they don't, I think that has relevance to the case.[/QUOTE] If they thought it was fine and it is taken into account, what does that teach everyone else about the case? That sometimes it is completely fine to almost rape underage boys when they are drunk? Also just because you think you wouldn't feel victimized at that age doesn't mean everyone else feels like that. And I think it is pretty hard to visualize what they were going through. You see a night full of sweet love, they probably didn't experience it like that.
This is stupid, how come she gets away unpunished but if a guy did it he'd get arrested for sure? I mean she got teenage boys drunk and had sex with them, one of them was only 12! She should be registered as a sex offender.
[QUOTE=Lyonidis;32871911]Our justice system is so fucking corrupted it is sickening.[/QUOTE] Too bad this didn't happen in America
automerge
She is a 20 year old woman, most likely just got out of school. She was most likely sexually abused as a child and rejected by most of her peers. So she fell into a depressed state and started drinking her problems away until drinking became a problem. She got drunk around some horny teenagers who probably discovered the female vagina no more than a year prior to this. These were curious kids who took advantage of a trouble young woman. She is more weak and feeble than a man therefore she was released because the jury felt bad for her. Now had she been a minority or male the entire story would've been different, and that's why I think all of this is fucking bullshit. Simply because no other type of person ever gets off like this, you have to be a naive white girl to get a slap on the wrist. Otherwise your fucked, I can support this with so many fucking cases it's not even funny. Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, Casey Anthony, and the list goes on. Courts have a soft spot for young troubled white women and it is a motherfucking fact.
I was like "why would she go to jail for having sex with four boys?" Then I realized that they were actually, like, boys. [editline]20th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Contag;32872666]if these kids wrote "we weren't affected at all, she has great tits and now we're the envy of all our friends"[/QUOTE] burst out laughing
[QUOTE=Regulas021;32878194]Because I certainly wouldn't have felt victimized at that age. If they do, then take it into account. If they don't, I think that has relevance to the case.[/QUOTE] because statutory rape is a crime? somehow I doubt you would think it'd be okay for a 15 year old girl to agree to get drunk and have sex with a 20 year old guy.
Well, those 4 boys relationships with eachother must be very awkward afterwards.
I knew just from the title this thread would be 75% people complaining about how a man wouldn't get away with this. Oh Facepunch, you so predictable.
court fail
What's this ladies number? She can have sex with me next. :v:
[QUOTE=Contag;32872432]no he fucking wouldn't, don't be a fucking dickhead we don't live in America I did a case study on a guy who went out and raped a bunch of women in the 90s for his 18th birthday he got a two year suspended sentence, which is 6 months more than what this woman got the next month he went out and raped another girl, so they put him in jail for a couple of years he got out, and the treatment counselor said he wasn't ready, and lo and behold and tried to rape and did assault a couple of women he went in for five years, got out, and did the same thing, went in for another five years and the DPP requested an indefinite detention order, which was granted this year for statutory rape, without being in a position of care, with mental retardation, that young, an 18-24 months community based order is normal [editline]20th October 2011[/editline] and she was already sentenced to two and a half years in custody, so whatever bias you think you're seeing obviously isn't widespread[/QUOTE] Whoa whoa whoa, don't shit on the cake just yet, the 90's and today might be very different law wise [QUOTE=Contag;32872666]at her age, it's a 50/50 chance of jail or community based sentence it helps that the assault was when they were drunk but still conscious, and non-violent that she is borderline intellectually disabled also reduces the charges it's highly dependent on the victim impact statements as well if these kids wrote "we weren't affected at all, she has great tits and now we're the envy of all our friends", then that's definitely cause for a far more lenient sentence that's sexist in a sense, but it's not the fault of the courts Murdoch News and the Crimes Support lobbyists for tougher sentences (like your Harper) have been attacking this judge for the last while, it's nothing new.[/QUOTE] This seems like a fairly solid post. [QUOTE=Contag;32872678][B]yes, she spend her professional career practicing law, overturned a lower judge's sentence, because 'awww it's okay we all make mistakes'[/B] jesus fucking christ how dense are you if that was her rationale, do you really think she would still be a judge?[/QUOTE] See above [QUOTE=Contag;32872692]Is it sexist that women are less likely to be violence due to lack of physical size and social conditioning, and violence is one of the things factored into a sentence?[/QUOTE] Men in my experience can be marginally far more aggressive and violent simply by nature, but women, if they actually have bad intent, can be far more malicious and possibly even much worse in jail. [QUOTE=Contag;32875216]uh... explain then? [editline]21st October 2011[/editline] there are about 2500 women in jail, and 25000 men which roughly corresponds to the offending rates by gender [editline]21st October 2011[/editline] yup, you're right, you, a british commenter, know more about the Victorian criminal justice system than a Victorian majoring in criminology under a guy who spend the last two decades investigating the victorian criminal justice system also, the source is OP is the Australian equivalent of the daily mail[/QUOTE] Daily mail reminds me of the Onion. All the silly shit that just doesn't happen, except it isn't nearly as awesome and isn't satire [QUOTE=Mooe94;32876185]What? Just because she is a woman she automatically sympathizes women's cases? Maybe you meant that the judge herself was the problem, which she is, but it seemed to me like you were implying that her being a woman was an issue[/QUOTE] I'm male, and sometimes, even I go "What the fuck is wrong with people of my sex" then again females can be pretty whack yo [QUOTE=RopaDope;32878623]She is a 20 year old woman, most likely just got out of school. She was most likely sexually abused as a child and rejected by most of her peers. So she fell into a depressed state and started drinking her problems away until drinking became a problem. She got drunk around some horny teenagers who probably discovered the female vagina no more than a year prior to this. These were curious kids who took advantage of a trouble young woman. She is more weak and feeble than a man therefore she was released because the jury felt bad for her. Now had she been a minority or male the entire story would've been different, and that's why I think all of this is fucking bullshit. Simply because no other type of person ever gets off like this, you have to be a naive white girl to get a slap on the wrist. Otherwise your fucked, I can support this with so many fucking cases it's not even funny. Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, Casey Anthony, and the list goes on. Courts have a soft spot for young troubled white women and it is a motherfucking fact.[/QUOTE] Fair enough. These seem like fairly solid posts, all to me really. [editline]20th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=BestBuyInBRICK;32882626]What's this ladies number? She can have sex with me next. :v:[/QUOTE] This seems like a terrible joke.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;32871933]How did she get found out? I seriously doubt the boys would of complained.[/QUOTE]they probably bragged to the wrong people or something
[QUOTE=Amplar;32872069]"victims"[/QUOTE] I think this sort of attitude is part of the reason she got off so easy.
[QUOTE=J!NX;32883246]This seems like a terrible joke.[/QUOTE] Not really. The only problem I have with these stories is the alcohol. If a 20 year old woman and a 12 year old boy both wanted to have sex with each other, I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to. I never really understood the sexual concept behind minors and adults.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;32879336]because statutory rape is a crime? somehow I doubt you would think it'd be okay for a 15 year old girl to agree to get drunk and have sex with a 20 year old guy.[/QUOTE] That depends on whether I would be caught or not.
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