• Japan’s Abe rewrites history
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So do they believe that by not teaching their people about shameful events that happened that things like that will never happen again or something? If you ignore your own mistakes, how do you expect to ever get past them
Shit like this makes me absolutely ashamed to be Japanese.
It would be great if he examined the documents and then came out and said "Yeah, these totally check out. Oops"
I did not know that Abe is the name of Japan's Prime Minister. I thought the thread title was talking about Abraham Lincoln. A Japanese historical revisionist Abraham Lincoln... imagine that...
God damn it Abe, you are doing the same thing that the Serbians did - not teaching them about the crimes your country did. Sheesh, i wonder what will happen after Abe will no longer be the PM.
[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;44187985]God damn it Abe, you are doing the same thing that the Serbians did - not teaching them about the crimes your country did. Sheesh, i wonder what will happen after Abe will no longer be the PM.[/QUOTE] The next guy will just change it to something else. (Or maybe be rational and change it back to what really happened?)
As problematic as the current government's "looking at" of the war crimes history is, this is a terribly brief and disingenuous editorial being passed off as 'news'. Japanese students are told about the war crimes in school, and the supposed textbook controversy of some years ago amounted to a very small percentage of schools adopting a textbook with a revisionist outlook, that has since been dropped and was never really vetted by the ministry of education in the first place. Shinzo Abe is indeed a bit of a hawk and rides on a lot of nationalist sentiment, but I don't think the Japanese public (at least among people younger than 50) is particularly aligned with their way of thinking. If anything, the Japanese students I've met and talked to are embarrassed by these incidents and others like them, as it makes Japan look like some kind of isolationist hellhole, when in fact the average person is very similar to those in other developed countries.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;44186468]A few decades of civil war and revolution was the result. I'm thankful they didn't get near India.[/QUOTE] BTW India we want you back in the Empire. Please we're so lonely please.
[QUOTE=Megafan;44188062]As problematic as the current government's "looking at" of the war crimes history is, this is a terribly brief and disingenuous editorial being passed off as 'news'. Japanese students are told about the war crimes in school, and the supposed textbook controversy of some years ago amounted to a very small percentage of schools adopting a textbook with a revisionist outlook, that has since been dropped and was never really vetted by the ministry of education in the first place. Shinzo Abe is indeed a bit of a hawk and rides on a lot of nationalist sentiment, but I don't think the Japanese public (at least among people younger than 50) is particularly aligned with their way of thinking. If anything, the Japanese students I've met and talked to are embarrassed by these incidents and others like them, as it makes Japan look like some kind of isolationist hellhole, when in fact the average person is very similar to those in other developed countries.[/QUOTE] Sounds the same as anywhere else really, be it the U.S. or Germany or whatever. Some people in power have warped perspectives, sometimes they seep into a book or political statement before people really take notice, nothing new. An opinion piece about somebody's opinions doesn't seem like news. The statement "If you describe yourself as a far right Japanese politician, your agenda is to deny the history of World War II, all in the name of a kind of patriotism." would need to be followed up with three pages of quotes with detailed contextual analysis to have any weight, not just what some opinion-haver believes. This may as well be a blog post.
[QUOTE=Laputa;44186812]How would Abe explain this though [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Japanese_bayonet_practice_with_dead_Chinese_near_Tianjin.jpg[/t] [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Unit_731_victim.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Americans dressed up to defame glorious Japanese empire?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;44186468]A few decades of civil war and revolution was the result. I'm thankful they didn't get near India.[/QUOTE] the japanese did help regardless, albeit unwittingly like paul said. its kinda funny, you could argue that the japanese were rewarded and not really punished after WW2, considering how well they came out of it in the end, they pretty much achieved every objective with the exception of ruling asia, and now they have the third largest economy in the planet, one of the most advanced militaries in the planet, plus they could have nukes in a couple of days if they wanted.
yeah, but their porn is censored
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;44188320]the japanese did help regardless, albeit unwittingly like paul said. its kinda funny, you could argue that the japanese were rewarded and not really punished after WW2, considering how well they came out of it in the end, they pretty much achieved every objective with the exception of ruling asia, and now they have the third largest economy in the planet, one of the most advanced militaries in the planet, plus they could have nukes in a couple of days if they wanted.[/QUOTE] Really you could also say the same thing about Hitler, despite the split following the war, Germany is one of the strongest and most influential economic powers in Europe, and there's less Jews there now.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;44186322]To be fair, that was pretty much the official government-sanctioned opinion at the time.[/QUOTE] like that even fucking matters. The Jews were scapegoat-ed for all of Germany's problem back in the 30's, but it's not like some historical revisionist could go and say "Germany was liberating it's economy from the hold of the Jewish money mongers" [editline]10th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Wizards Court;44188320]the japanese did help regardless, albeit unwittingly like paul said. its kinda funny, you could argue that the japanese were rewarded and not really punished after WW2, considering how well they came out of it in the end, they pretty much achieved every objective with the exception of ruling asia, and now they have the third largest economy in the planet, one of the most advanced militaries in the planet, plus they could have nukes in a couple of days if they wanted.[/QUOTE] It's not like any of that stuff happened over night or as a direct result to their loss of the war. .
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