Physicists claim the universe could collapse TODAY
102 replies, posted
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43180401]I find it odd people worry about things like this.
"Massive event will kill us before we even know it!"
Well, I'll be dead before I know it so why should I care?[/QUOTE]
technically you'll always be dead before you know you're dead, so that's kind of a moot point. i mean, you'll never actually know what it's like to be dead, [I]because you'll be fucking dead[/I]. the cessation of sensation isn't itself a knowable sensation.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;43180412]I agree but I still think "you won't know what's happening so why care?" is a bad way of thinking about it, I mean if you knew you were gonna be wiped out from existance in say 2 months - would that change your way of living those 2 months? For better or for worse? If for better then why wouldn't you care?[/QUOTE]
The problem is if the event itself is unknowable - I mean, we probably can't predict the bubble coming because it's coming as fast as the information we get from the universe. An astronomist could look through his telescope and see a distant galaxy suddenly collapse, but before he has time to think "oh bother" he's already been compressed into the same lump as the telescope and the surrounding countryside.
Anyway, stuff like this always makes me a little paranoid, mostly the "at any time" thing. I liked that TED talk though - not just for the fact it says that it's not likely to happen for another 10^100 years.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43180401]I find it odd people worry about things like this.
"Massive event will kill us before we even know it!"
Well, I'll be dead before I know it so why should I care?[/QUOTE]
Humans are mostly driven by emotion and not rationality so there you go. People worry about shit they cannot do anything about all the time
There is no bubble.
Only Reapers.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;43180412]I agree but I still think "you won't know what's happening so why care?" is a bad way of thinking about it, I mean if you knew you were gonna be wiped out from existance in say 2 months - would that change your way of living those 2 months? For better or for worse? If for better then why wouldn't you care?[/QUOTE]
Well, I mean if we had some way of predicting it or knowing about it, that would be good.
But really just saying "At any one moment everything will stop and nothing can be done about it", well, what can you even do?
[QUOTE=LieutenantLeo;43180000]maybe theoretical physicists should maybe not be taken seriously maybe[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i1.cdnds.net/10/18/gaming_halflife2_1.jpg[/img]
[sp]can the rules for reaction images please be a little less vague in situations like this[/sp]
[QUOTE=blacksam;43179956]This is wrong.
2012 happened and we're all living in a computer simulation.[/QUOTE]
Where the fuck are my super powers then and why can't I hang out with the Saints?
The Daily Mail:
[img]http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20090830.gif[/img]
If suddenly a billion particles across the universe because much heavier, and they began to move in a different direction as a result of their increased mass and thus increased gravitational field, wouldn't that mean astronomers would suddenly see a large group of stars suddenly change their wavelength of light emittance i.e. their colour?
[sp]that could've just been all bullshit i wrote, i'm not sure[/sp]
[QUOTE=Alxnotorious;43182077]If suddenly a billion particles across the universe because much heavier, and they began to move in a different direction as a result of their increased mass and thus increased gravitational field, wouldn't that mean astronomers would suddenly see a large group of stars suddenly change their wavelength of light emittance i.e. their colour?
[sp]that could've just been all bullshit i wrote, i'm not sure[/sp][/QUOTE]
No, because nucleating bubble is traveling nearly the speed of light, the signals of this wouldn't reach us until it was moments away. Also, the stuff on the inside of the bubble collapses to a singularity very quickly, on the order of milliseconds (I think I read that last time I was reading up on this, I may have to look it up again to make sure).
Hypothetically, what would you say the odds are of this happening now? The daily mail article is basically filled with "I don't know because we don't know".
[QUOTE=Zambies!;43182279]Hypothetically, what would you say the odds are of this happening now? The daily mail article is basically filled with "I don't know because we don't know".[/QUOTE]
I don't know either.
It's going to collapse...
[editline]14th December 2013[/editline]
[B]RIGHT NOW[/B]
[editline]14th December 2013[/editline]
[B]NOW![/B]
[QUOTE=Swebonny;43182305]It's going to collapse...
[editline]14th December 2013[/editline]
[B]RIGHT NOW[/B]
[editline]14th December 2013[/editline]
[B]NOW![/B][/QUOTE]
FUC
[QUOTE=Swebonny;43182305]It's going to collapse...
[editline]14th December 2013[/editline]
[B]RIGHT NOW[/B]
[editline]14th December 2013[/editline]
[B]NOW![/B][/QUOTE]
You're just trying to [b]OH CHRIST ON A BIK-[/b]
[QUOTE]'Maybe a collapse is starting right now right here. Or maybe it will start far away from here in a billion years. We do not know.’[/QUOTE]
ok that's just taking the piss
[QUOTE=Swebonny;43182305]It's going to collapse...
[editline]14th December 2013[/editline]
[B]RIGHT NOW[/B]
[editline]14th December 2013[/editline]
[B]NOW![/B][/QUOTE]
i don't feel anything
[QUOTE=EddieLTU;43182349]i don't feel anything[/QUOTE]
because it's already happened
[QUOTE=J!NX;43182365]because it's already happened[/QUOTE]
oh wait, someone said that we're dead since Y2K
For anyone that has astrophobia,
Better source.
[quote]Researchers at the University of Southern Denmark have said their calculations confirm the universe will collapse one day - they just do not know when. They said it could happen any time from tommorrow to a billion years from now.[/quote]
Source; [url]http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/529747/20131212/universe-will-collapse-calculations-higgs-field-different.htm[/url]
From what I gather, all they did was look at/comprise calculations to get a better result, and they successfully did so, and they can't tell us when it's happening, because they don't know either. Not only that, all it's basically saying is what has already been said by master physicists since we started to understand the universe and it's time left.
So, they're pretty much telling us what we know already.
As we can see they didn't just outright say "IT COULD END TODAY", the Daily Mail is stirring up shit once more.
Don't listen to sensationalism, it kills.
wait, if the universe is going to be entirely dead for a far longer time than it's going to be nice and lively, doesn't that mean that we're at a reduced risk of it happening at a time that actually matters? i mean, if the universe just keeps on expanding and existing even after all particles have become too far apart to interact, then surely there's much more time for a false vacuum to happen during that period than there is for it to happen during ours?
i don't know, i'm not very good with probability.
DAILY MAIL
DAILY
MAYULLLLLL
GUYS ITS THE MAIL GUYS DAILY MAIL LET'S ALL MAKE JOKES I'M SO FUNNY
[QUOTE=Jrose14;43180040]What about Gordon Freeman?[/QUOTE]
Forget about freeman
I wonder if we could find a way of triggering this on our own.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;43184598]I wonder if we could find a way of triggering this on our own.[/QUOTE]
We did 5 years ago with the black hole machine, remember
[IMG]http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/01/02/LHC.article.jpg[/IMG]
Duh!
Am I dead?
I don't feel dead.
I can confirm this is true, I have a theoretical degree in Physics
If the universe has existed for 13.7 billion years without this shit happening then I think it's safe to say this kind of thing is unlikely to happen in the very near future. The odds of us being close to the END of universe are quite low.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.