• Physicists claim the universe could collapse TODAY
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OH CRAP I'M LATE
[QUOTE=Durrsly;43185152]Am I dead? I don't feel dead.[/QUOTE] You're not gonna feel dead when you're dead tbh
slight correction, physicist claims the universe could have collapsed millions of years ago and we're only realizing it today! see you on the dark side of the singularity
I don't see a cause for alarm. If the universe ends it ends. Countless sentient beings will be destroyed, among them humans. But why worry if it's unstoppable and inevitable.
[QUOTE=RentAhobO;43189307]I don't see a cause for alarm. If the universe ends it ends. Countless sentient beings will be destroyed, among them humans. But why worry if it's unstoppable and inevitable.[/QUOTE] I'm not worried about dying if it's due to the universe being wiped out. It's the fact that trillions and trillions of sentient life that have ever made history on earth, they will be gone, so will we. History, our very own and others, our evolution, our stories, thoughts, love, individual lives and thoughts will simply just be gone, and that, to me, is unnerving.
[QUOTE=Golgo 13;43189659]I'm not worried about dying if it's due to the universe being wiped out. It's the fact that trillions and trillions of sentient life that have ever made history on earth, they will be gone, so will we. History, our very own and others, our evolution, our stories, thoughts, love, individual lives and thoughts will simply just be gone, and that, to me, is unnerving.[/QUOTE] Our thoughts will be wiped out twice? Fuck. [editline]15th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=sltungle;43187465]If the universe has existed for 13.7 billion years without this shit happening then I think it's safe to say this kind of thing is unlikely to happen in the very near future. The odds of us being close to the END of universe are quite low.[/QUOTE] Not really how probability works. If you have six baby girls, the chances your next child will be a girl are still about 50/50.
Guys life in a singularity doesn't seem any different than life normally.
Just whatever. I would doubt this would be a phenomenon that was slow enough so that you could really notice it before it was too late. You'll wake up dead one day, and then you'll be sad because you're dead and it happened today oh well.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;43190106]Guys life in a singularity doesn't seem any different than life normally.[/QUOTE] Well except you'd be dead.
this is true, trust me im a whale biologist i think maybe
Why worry, we can do fuck all about it anyway
[QUOTE=BreenIsALie;43192232]Why worry, we can do fuck all about it anyway[/QUOTE] maybe if we concentrate really hard...
Man, the 1980 paper talking about gravitational effects and vacuum decay is depressing: "After vacuum decay, not only is life as we know it impossible, so is chemistry as we know it. However, one could always draw stoic comfort from the possibility that perhaps in the course of time the new vacuum would sustain, if not life as we know it, at least some structures capable of knowing joy. This possibility has now been eliminated." Shit, guys.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;43192551]Man, the 1980 paper talking about gravitational effects and vacuum decay is depressing: "After vacuum decay, not only is life as we know it impossible, so is chemistry as we know it. However, one could always draw stoic comfort from the possibility that perhaps in the course of time the new vacuum would sustain, if not life as we know it, at least some structures capable of knowing joy. This possibility has now been eliminated." Shit, guys.[/QUOTE] Wow awfully dramatic for a physics paper.
Well it's not like we'd notice the universe collapsing on us
[QUOTE=Jetpack Bear;43186733]I can confirm this is true, I have a theoretical degree in Physics[/QUOTE] Be careful that somebody doesn't shoot you and loot your fine-ass labcoat and sunglasses
Okay, so apparently, there is more evidence the universe is a hologram, so, like if that is true, let's not worry about the philosophical side of it, would that mean that this theory could be cancelled out?
[QUOTE=Golgo 13;43193195]Okay, so apparently, there is more evidence the universe is a hologram, so, like if that is true, let's not worry about the philosophical side of it, would that mean that this theory could be cancelled out?[/QUOTE] no
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We'd not only cease to exist, but the entire period of time in which we existed would cease to exist unless memorized by something not affected by the collapse.
[QUOTE=U.S.S.R;43195856]We'd not only cease to exist, but the entire period of time in which we existed would cease to exist unless memorized by something not affected by the collapse.[/QUOTE] Everything would be affected
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;43195882]Everything would be affected[/QUOTE] We'd reach a state of true nonexistence, where there would not even be a single thing to acknowledge the state of not having a state. It'd be like getting a value of instead of 0. But even the blank space in place of a word or number there counts as a state, it'd be something even more unknowable and blank than that. Something that people could not possibly fathom in any sort of thought or speech~
Is it bad that I feel indifferent now towards the universe ending
[QUOTE=Falubii;43189921] Not really how probability works. If you have six baby girls, the chances your next child will be a girl are still about 50/50.[/QUOTE] That's not the point I'm trying to make here. One, if it's not happened in 13.7 billion years then we can conclude it's probably UNLIKELY to happen, so the relative odds of it happening any time soon (or ever for that matter) are probably very low. Second, the whole doomsday argument point. The odds of you being in the group of people extremely close to either the beginning of human kind, or the end of human kind is statistically a lot lower than you being part of the people in the middle bunch. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_argument[/url]
It's happening
[QUOTE=sltungle;43197567]That's not the point I'm trying to make here. One, if it's not happened in 13.7 billion years then we can conclude it's probably UNLIKELY to happen, so the relative odds of it happening any time soon (or ever for that matter) are probably very low.[/QUOTE] I don't think it's really valid to argue from that that it probably won't ever occur. There are plenty of quantum events which are essentially guaranteed to happen at [I]some[/I] point but not are unlikely to have happened even once by now. Could be that the second-to-second probability of vacuum decay is very low, such that the expected time we'd have to wait is on the order of, say, 50 billion years.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;43197691]I don't think it's really valid to argue from that that it probably won't ever occur. There are plenty of quantum events which are essentially guaranteed to happen at [I]some[/I] point but not are unlikely to have happened even once by now. Could be that the second-to-second probability of vacuum decay is very low, such that the expected time we'd have to wait is on the order of, say, 50 billion years.[/QUOTE] And that's the point I'm trying to make. It's probably very statistically unlikely to happen in any time frame that concerns us. I'm not saying it WON'T happen but it's pretty silly to worry that, in the small 80ish year window each of us has into a universe that has existed for 13.7 billion years that something like this will happen. The overwhelming odds are it won't.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;43196060]Is it bad that I feel indifferent now towards the universe ending[/QUOTE] Nope. It is something that no amount of effort or know-how could prevent, so why stress over it?
[QUOTE=U.S.S.R;43195916]We'd reach a state of true nonexistence, where there would not even be a single thing to acknowledge the state of not having a state. It'd be like getting a value of instead of 0. But even the blank space in place of a word or number there counts as a state, it'd be something even more unknowable and blank than that. Something that people could not possibly fathom in any sort of thought or speech~[/QUOTE] I love discussing nothing [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OLz6uUuMp8[/media]
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