• Second Mine Blast In New Zealand Coal Mine - No Survivors.
    64 replies, posted
[QUOTE=xKAZUYAx;26261517]sucks big time, being trapped for 5 days then a explosion, and if u didnt die from explosion you are either crushed or something :(. R.i.p miners[/QUOTE] It's thought they were killed by the first blast. Even if they lived through the blast, the underground fires as a result of the blast would've killed them, as it would've sucked up any of the remaining oxygen. The rescuers were correct in waiting. They couldn't do anything. It was very likely that they had been killed anyway, as sad as it is. [editline]24th November 2010[/editline] It's not like the Chilean mine collapse at all. It's completely different. Methane gas is a result of coal mining, something you don't get from copper and gold mining (aka Chile mine collapse).
[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;26262535]It's not like we sent a crew back to the titanic to gather up all the bodies so that we can bury them on land.[/QUOTE] We actually did. As many as they could gather, anyway.
If a relative of you died you'd most probably also want to have his remains in his coffin. Regardless that the goverment or whoever is responsible has to put some money in the proces of retrieving them.
[QUOTE=cheezey;26264807]If a relative of you died you'd most probably also want to have his remains in his coffin. Regardless that the goverment or whoever is responsible has to put some money in the proces of retrieving them.[/QUOTE] There have been instances where bodies have been left in the mine due to it being too unsafe to retrieve them. It's not to do with cost, it's to do with the safety of recoveries / rescuers.
[QUOTE=Sleepyhead54;26261968]that's not the point. dangers are still probably just as high as before the second blast, and yet they send in a team to recover their remains? why couldn't they have sent in a team beforehand instead of playing a stupid ass waiting game to to gamble the lives of 29 people and see if the gas levels could have went down? rescue teams are supposed to risk it all, what's the point of having them if they're not gonna do their job?[/QUOTE] If you were in charge there'd be a team of rescuers on the end of that list of casualties.
There have been a lot of mining accidents lately.
[QUOTE=cheezey;26264807]If a relative of you died you'd most probably also want to have his remains in his coffin. Regardless that the goverment or whoever is responsible has to put some money in the proces of retrieving them.[/QUOTE] If a relative of mine died down a mine and it was going to cost a billion quid to get the remains out, id rather use the money to help save/improve the lives of thousands of kids at Great Ormond Street. Of course this is me being rational, and in an emotional relatives state I would not be thinking rationally. But rationality has to be implemented somewhere by someone, regardless of the emotional costs. If its not too costly then by all means get them out and give them a proper burial. But if its going to cost a fortune and that money could go towards improving the lives of those of us that are still here, then isn't that the better of two options? It sounds callous, but what a grieving relative is emotionally feeling isn't as relevant as the child who is suffering in a hospital bed while money is poured down the mine.
[QUOTE=-n3o-;26263302]Just wondering what is the age limit, because 17 seems way to young.[/QUOTE] You're never too young to be a minor.
[QUOTE=Sleepyhead54;26261968]that's not the point. dangers are still probably just as high as before the second blast, and yet they send in a team to recover their remains? why couldn't they have sent in a team beforehand instead of playing a stupid ass waiting game to to gamble the lives of 29 people and see if the gas levels could have went down? [b]rescue teams are supposed to risk it all[/b], what's the point of having them if they're not gonna do their job?[/QUOTE] No, they aren't. If you think rescuers are supposed to go in to a situation where there is a good chance they could be injured or need rescue them selves then you are and idiot and have no idea what you are talking about. People like you need to pull there heads out of there asses and realize emergency workers have families to go home to and aren't there to sacrifice them selves to rescue people.
What exactly explode's in these situation's [B]Herp, Let's make explosion[/b]
[QUOTE=Kade;26265165]It sounds callous, but what a grieving relative is emotionally feeling isn't as relevant as the child who is suffering in a hospital bed while money is poured down the mine.[/QUOTE] It has nothing... nothing to do with cost! It's all to do with safety. It's likely that the mine will never be safe again. It's also likely that the fires down in the mines could be burning for years to come. It's very unlikely that it will be safe for anyone to enter the mine for a while now. Cost isn't the issue. [editline]25th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=MrTwicks;26265444]What exactly explode's in these situation's [B]Herp, Let's make explosion[/b][/QUOTE] What? It's methane gas given off by coal mining.
How did the gas ignite? maybe they where alive and decided they needed lighting.
Creepers did it.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;26265763]It has nothing... nothing to do with cost! It's all to do with safety. It's likely that the mine will never be safe again. It's also likely that the fires down in the mines could be burning for years to come. It's very unlikely that it will be safe for anyone to enter the mine for a while now. Cost isn't the issue. [/QUOTE] I know cost isnt [i]the[/i] issue. I'm saying cost should be [i]an[/i] issue. Did you even read what I was quoting in my post? We were having a totally different conversation to you.
[QUOTE=Paramud;26265930]Creepers did it.[/QUOTE] They should have lit up the mine after the first collapse knocked their torches out You'd think miners would be trained in mob spawn parameters but I guess not
To be honest this was expected. People just had their hopes high because of Chile, Chile was shear fucking luck that none were hurt not many people get out of mines alive.
[QUOTE=Canary;26265819]How did the gas ignite? maybe they where alive and decided they needed lighting.[/QUOTE] Oxygen + Methan + Spark (or heat from drilling) + high temperatures = real bad. [editline]25th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Kade;26265941]I know cost isnt [i]the[/i] issue. I'm saying cost should be [i]an[/i] issue. Did you even read what I was quoting in my post? We were having a totally different conversation to you.[/QUOTE] Ahh right. They're most likely going to pump it with something non-explosive and seal it up. No point in doing anything more.
Damn Creeper's! Shit I feel bad [editline]24th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Paramud;26265930]Creepers did it.[/QUOTE] Fuck I'm late
That blows
The numbers of nz ppls on the planet are already low to begin with. Such loss. Such sorrow :C
Now that they are dead just watch them get less media coverage than the Chileans.
Does this mean no porn movie?
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;26274564]Does this mean no porn movie?[/QUOTE] Zombies are the latest trend Rich.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;26274454]Now that they are dead just watch them get less media coverage than the Chileans.[/QUOTE] Well, the Chilean media coverage was about rescuing dozens of living people trapped in a mine....I'd guess that rescuing dozens of dead people trapped in a mine would probably not be as dramatic as they are hoping for...
[QUOTE=MrTwicks;26265444]What exactly explode is in these situation is. [B]Herp, Let's make explosion[/b][/QUOTE] Please go back to school, you obviously missed the grammar lesson
That was such a terrible position to be in for the mine operator. [list][*]Pump oxygen into the mines in hope that the miners would have a chance to breath, but heavily increase the chances of another, more deadly explosion. [*]Don't pump in oxygen to lessen the chance of another explosion but almost certainly drown the miners with all the other gasses down there.[/list] Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
goddamnit mother nature
For the many geologically challenged in this thread, it wasn't an actual "firey explosion", more like a massive build up of pressure being released.
[QUOTE=LordLoss;26287052]For the many geologically challenged in this thread, it wasn't an actual "firey explosion", more like a massive build up of pressure being released.[/QUOTE] Nah, it was a fire explosion + a high amount of pressure. There's been smoke billowing out of the only exit for a while now, plus they've determined there are underground fires.
[QUOTE=Dr Kevorkian;26264552]And he was supposed to start the next Monday, but he was too eager to get to work.[/QUOTE] Thats so terrible. I thought it just being his first day was bad, but thats tragic.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.