[QUOTE=Crappy2themax;40689113]If you have people who will play it with you, Nintendo Land is awesome. Haven't played Revelations on the Wii U so I can't give you advice there, but the system has 4-5 good single player games right now that I own and am happy with.[/QUOTE]
Could you list those games?
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;40688098]It's a fantastically profitable market. Of shit.[/QUOTE]
That's the same as basing the Wii on only
[QUOTE][img]http://gamingtrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Wii-shovelware.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Hey, IGN gave party babyz a 7.5 out of 10
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40689716]Hey, IGN gave party babyz a 7.5 out of 10[/QUOTE]
[img]http://oi44.tinypic.com/2v9etle.jpg[/img]
~IGN~
[editline]19th May 2013[/editline]
I still don't get why the baby has a comb over though
[QUOTE=Xonax;40686430]He is just pissed because Nintendo said no to integrating origin into the Wii-U.
I can't remember where I read it, some other FPers have been mentioning it earlier this year and such. But this is the best source I could find.
[URL]http://wiiudaily.com/2012/08/ea-origin-wii-u/[/URL][/QUOTE]
"i like this rumor because it makes nintendo look like they were in control over the situation"
not a smart move on his part to say these things on twitter, but he's not wrong. The Wii U is a pretty fundamentally backwards console. Dated hardware, confusing marketing, poor support out of the gate.
I'm seeing a lot of people saying the Wii U is weak because of its CPU, but if you have been paying attention, the CPU's "power" has basically been split between the CPU and GPU. The GPU is incredibly powerful and has the ability to do a lot of things that would normally be handled by the CPU, like physics, AI, etc.
Also, the quote posted earlier in this topic about the Wii U's CPU being weaker than the 360s is from a developer that had an early dev kit. That developer later corrected themselves if I remember correctly.
Early Wii U devkits have been stated as being underclocked, I believe.
[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;40682683]Say what you want about the old console wars, at least companies never resorted to [i]slander[/i] back then.[/QUOTE][url=http://sardoose.rustedlogic.net/reviews/jturbo/]Oh my God, they're not even [i]human![/i][/url]
I can remember Nintendo making the statement on why they weren't fond of patches that 'A bad game always stays bad', even with later patches, and that it is better to get it right from the get-go.
Now, on EA, SimCity, what else do I have to say?
I like how he claims Nintendo always making the weakest consoles each gen even though the N64 and GC where the most powerful to their respecting gen
[QUOTE=SmashJonXD;40692072]I like how he claims Nintendo always making the weakest consoles each gen even though the N64 and GC where the most powerful to their respecting gen[/QUOTE]
Yeah, way back then maybe, but their recent consoles are shit
[QUOTE=Ericson666;40692113]Yeah, way back then maybe, but their recent consoles are shit[/QUOTE]
The weakest console always win the gen see PS1, PS2, and Wii
[QUOTE=Jordax;40691374]I can remember Nintendo making the statement on why they weren't fond of patches that 'A bad game always stays bad', even with later patches, and that it is better to get it right from the get-go.
Now, on EA, SimCity, what else do I have to say?[/QUOTE]
Why would Nintendo say something like that, that's stupid.
[QUOTE=SmashJonXD;40692133]The weakest console always win the gen see PS1, PS2, and Wii[/QUOTE]
The dreamcast was weaker than the PS2 and it didn't win.
[QUOTE=SmashJonXD;40692072]I like how he claims Nintendo always making the weakest consoles each gen even though the N64 and GC where the most powerful to their respecting gen[/QUOTE]
GC wasn't the most powerful that gen. Xbox was.
NES and SNES were pretty weak despite how powerful the games/sales were.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40692143]Why would Nintendo say something like that, that's stupid.[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind Shigeru Miyamoto said this "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad. " Back in the 90's. And he's mostly right in that regard. The fact that some developers actually release games that are only in a functional/semi-playable state so they can fix the bugs/issues later is a cancer to the game industry right now. We've seen it time and time again these past few years and it really shouldn't be acceptable and I don't know why people buy into this.
[editline]18th May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Key_in_skillee;40692160]The dreamcast was weaker than the PS2 and it didn't win.[/QUOTE]
Sega was coming out with a new system even after multiple financial failures. What brought them down was mismanagement.
[QUOTE=Pennywise;40691073][url=http://sardoose.rustedlogic.net/reviews/jturbo/]Oh my God, they're not even [i]human![/i][/url][/QUOTE]
Mmgh. Forgot about that.
[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;40682683]Y'know what sucks? His "Wii U is less powerful than 360" comment? People will actually [i]believe[/i] that crap because he's a high-up in the game industry and "obviously he knows more about consoles than you do" even though it's completely not true. [b]All this mud-slinging just because Nintendo refused to bend over and be Origin's bitch.[/b] All this misinformation. When did the industry get this bad? [b]Say what you want about the old console wars, at least companies never resorted to [i]slander[/i] back then[/b].
The last thing the game industry needs is people believing [b]outright lies.[/b] I mean, c'mon: this isn't American politics.[/QUOTE]
Sega does what NintenDon't.
Blast Processing.
Everything else I bolded is just shit you're really misinformed about.
[editline]18th May 2013[/editline]
explained this on the last page, but anybody who says "waahh ea tried to force nintendo to make wiiu the origin console" either a) reads the titles of kotaku articles unironically or b) doesn't read into things before making very stupid statements
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;40693722]Sega does what NintenDon't.
Blast Processing.
Everything else I bolded is just shit you're really misinformed about.
[editline]18th May 2013[/editline]
explained this on the last page, but anybody who says "waahh ea tried to force nintendo to make wiiu the origin console" either a) reads the titles of kotaku articles unironically or b) doesn't read into things before making very stupid statements[/QUOTE]
You seem to defend EA a lot, and consider the rumor 100% false. For something that was put out in September, it makes sense why there are no EA games on the 3ds at the moment as well, a factor you haven't considered.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;40693722]Sega does what NintenDon't.
Blast Processing.
Everything else I bolded is just shit you're really misinformed about.
[editline]18th May 2013[/editline]
explained this on the last page, but anybody who says "waahh ea tried to force nintendo to make wiiu the origin console" either a) reads the titles of kotaku articles unironically or b) doesn't read into things before making very stupid statements[/QUOTE]
Oh, [i]please.[/i] You seem dead-set in taking EA's side of this story when most of the info out there as well as each company's known M.O. matches up with Nintendo's take: that EA tried to indeed turn Wii U into an Origin console and take the reins from Nintendo and Nintendo was smart enough to say no. And Fangz brings up another big hole in your argument: if EA just indeed believes that Wii U was a bad console with no potential for success and [i]isn't[/i] holding a grudge against Nintendo, then why aren't they even developing for the 3DS, a platform whose potential [i]has[/i] been proven and is currently seeing astronomical sales while kicking the ass of its only direct competition in the Vita? If EA [i]didn't[/i] have some sort of ulterior motive, I don't see why they'd be missing out on one of the industry's most successful markets at the moment. All info on this whole incident that [i]hasn't[/i] come directly from EA points to them being the bad guy here and I've yet to see you make a clear argument against it outside of "Kotaku reported on it at one point, therefore it must be false!"
To use an idiom my brother made up: [b]prove me wrong and I'll stop being right.[/b]
TBH, the Wii U is horrible due to the lack of good games (Save for Nintendo Land and a couple others)
Also, random fact, The Wii U is using the same CPU architecture as the Mars Curiosity Rover. :eng101:
[QUOTE=Atlascore;40694652]A horrible quote, you have to find a balance when it comes to development time, or else you get a disaster like Duke Nukem Forever, there's an endless number of failed rushed games out there so I'm not even going to bother listing any.[/quote]
there's a huge difference between actually working on a game (as far as i know their most recent game with horrible delays is pikmin 3 with 5 years or possibly more of being in development) and stating you're working on a game but not actually doing anything. games like that have other, outside problems that kept them from being successful. In Duke's case it was a developer who wanted to piggyback off of what a ton of other games had done while also constantly making the team working on the game restart from a blank slate because he wanted the game on the latest and greatest engines.
[quote]The Wii didn't win anything.[/QUOTE]
sales generally determine who "wins" a generation.
[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;40695297]Oh, [i]please.[/i] You seem dead-set in taking EA's side of this story when most of the info out there as well as each company's known M.O. matches up with Nintendo's take: that EA tried to indeed turn Wii U into an Origin console and take the reins from Nintendo and Nintendo was smart enough to say no. And Fangz brings up another big hole in your argument: if EA just indeed believes that Wii U was a bad console with no potential for success and [i]isn't[/i] holding a grudge against Nintendo, then why aren't they even developing for the 3DS, a platform whose potential [i]has[/i] been proven and is currently seeing astronomical sales while kicking the ass of its only direct competition in the Vita? If EA [i]didn't[/i] have some sort of ulterior motive, I don't see why they'd be missing out on one of the industry's most successful markets at the moment. All info on this whole incident that [i]hasn't[/i] come directly from EA points to them being the bad guy here and I've yet to see you make a clear argument against it outside of "Kotaku reported on it at one point, therefore it must be false!"
To use an idiom my brother made up: [b]prove me wrong and I'll stop being right.[/b][/QUOTE]
The reason they aren't focusing on the 3DS is because it's more financially viable to have their mobile development teams work for the infinitely more profitable smartphone market. Just because smartphones aren't "real" gaming platforms doesn't mean that there's a lot of fucking money there. Have you seen the top of the iOS and Play Market charts recently? EA's games are right up at the top, selling a fuckton. Even if "they" (if you believe that an entire company is just 6 guys in suits sitting around at a table, and not a collection of thousands of developers and people in hundreds of departments across the entire globe) have some stupid grudge against Nintendo, it doesn't matter. Their developers don't want to or can't work with the WiiU or 3DS, and it won't affect them in the long run because they're [I]still making a fuckton of money.[/I]
[editline]18th May 2013[/editline]
and if you can find an exact quote from an ea or nintendo rep that literally says that EA wanted to TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE FUCKING WII U WITH ORIGIN, that'd be great.
seeing how sim city (and the rest of their recent big-name titles) turned out maybe they [b]should[/b] stick to mobile. completely.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;40696737]seeing how sim city (and the rest of their recent big-name titles) turned out maybe they [b]should[/b] stick to mobile. completely.[/QUOTE]
there were pretty much no problem with ea's 2013 lineup aside from the awful launch of sim city 2013. if you can find one reason to hate those games that isn't "i hate ea" or "they're not the same as the old games/ are more casual," i'd be glad to hear it.
[editline]19th May 2013[/editline]
just realized that army of two: the devil's cartel basically ruins my argument lol.
oops.
[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;40695297]Oh, [i]please.[/i] You seem dead-set in taking EA's side of this story when most of the info out there as well as each company's known M.O. matches up with Nintendo's take: that EA tried to indeed turn Wii U into an Origin console and take the reins from Nintendo and Nintendo was smart enough to say no. And Fangz brings up another big hole in your argument: if EA just indeed believes that Wii U was a bad console with no potential for success and [i]isn't[/i] holding a grudge against Nintendo, then why aren't they even developing for the 3DS, a platform whose potential [i]has[/i] been proven and is currently seeing astronomical sales while kicking the ass of its only direct competition in the Vita? If EA [i]didn't[/i] have some sort of ulterior motive, I don't see why they'd be missing out on one of the industry's most successful markets at the moment. All info on this whole incident that [i]hasn't[/i] come directly from EA points to them being the bad guy here and I've yet to see you make a clear argument against it outside of "Kotaku reported on it at one point, therefore it must be false!"
To use an idiom my brother made up: [b]prove me wrong and I'll stop being right.[/b][/QUOTE]
As far as I'm aware, the EA wanting to turn Nintendo into an Origin platform is still just a rumor. It's never been confirmed or denied by either party, instead originating from some Reddit post from a guy who claimed to be in the know.
[editline]19th May 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=TheJoey;40696737]seeing how sim city (and the rest of their recent big-name titles) turned out maybe they [b]should[/b] stick to mobile. completely.[/QUOTE]
Star Wars: Battlefront 3 coming exclusively to iOS and Android!
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;40696787]As far as I'm aware, the EA wanting to turn Nintendo into an Origin platform is still just a rumor. It's never been confirmed or denied by either party, instead originating from some Reddit post from a guy who claimed to be in the know.[/QUOTE]
as i said last page or page before, the guy on reddit probably misinterpreted something or wanted to spread stupid rumors. the most logical explanation behind this is that online EA games on the wiiu would require an origin account to play online, much like BF3 on the current sony and microsoft consoles.
[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;40695297]Oh, [i]please.[/i] You seem dead-set in taking EA's side of this story[/QUOTE]
and you seem very dead-set in claiming the opposite, when neither side has any definite proof (other than "well it SOUNDS like something EA would do! publisher [I]scum[/I]")
[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;40695297]And Fangz brings up another big hole in your argument: if EA just indeed believes that Wii U was a bad console with no potential for success and [i]isn't[/i] holding a grudge against Nintendo, then why aren't they even developing for the 3DS, a platform whose potential [i]has[/i] been proven and is currently seeing astronomical sales while kicking the ass of its only direct competition in the Vita? If EA [i]didn't[/i] have some sort of ulterior motive, I don't see why they'd be missing out on one of the industry's most successful markets at the moment.[/QUOTE]
if you want to trust wikipedia (I would), then EA has more published games on the 3DS than on the Vita
[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;40695297]All info on this whole incident that [i]hasn't[/i] come directly from EA points to them being the bad guy here and I've yet to see you make a clear argument against it outside of "Kotaku reported on it at one point, therefore it must be false!"
[/QUOTE]
as opposed to "well EA is actually satan so this totally sounds like something they'd do (and here's a reddit post to back me up!)"
[QUOTE=Atlascore;40696842]Its barely sold 20 million more units than the Xbox 360, console sales are a shit way to determine who's "won" this console generation, this isn't the 6th or 5th generation where the PS1/2 outsold the competition by over 100 million units.[/QUOTE]
i don't disagree with you but that's generally how it goes.
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