• 3-D Printed Assault Rifle Breaks After Just 6 Shots
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[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;38705817]a machine gun is anything that's full auto the point is that it's fun to shoot a full auto gun [/QUOTE] Machine guns and Assault rifles are two different things. Just having a gun be full-auto doesn't make it a machine gun.
[QUOTE=phygon;38709268]Machine guns and Assault rifles are two different things. Just having a gun be full-auto doesn't make it a machine gun.[/QUOTE] Actually it does. An assault rifle is a rifle chambered in an intermediate round that has full auto but select fire capabilities. A machine gun is a weapon that fires more than one bullet in rapid succession with a single pull of the trigger An assault rifle is just a sub category of it. Civilian AR-15's are not assault rifles, they're just rifles.
[QUOTE=Eeshton;38705216]this eliminates any fear of home-made assault rifles i suppose well, 6 shots, you could still do something though.[/QUOTE] Buy a gun, practice a lot so you never miss, print gun, never miss those 6 shots Oh wait...
[QUOTE=phygon;38709268]Machine guns and Assault rifles are two different things. Just having a gun be full-auto doesn't make it a machine gun.[/QUOTE] all assault rifles are machine guns, not all machine guns are assault rifles. an assault rifle is anything that fires an intermediate cartridge (5.56x45, 7.62x39, etc.) and has selective fire capabilities (ie. full auto, semi auto, and safe for most AR15s) a machine gun is just anything that fires automatically [editline]4th December 2012[/editline] and the gun in OP wasn't an assault rifle anyway, it's just a semi automatic pistol caliber carbine
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;38708704]You want to make a fully automatic rifle chambered in 30-06 out of plastic? Have fun picking shards of brass and plastic out of your hands.[/QUOTE] 3d printers can print in metal as well, as long as you have the right kind.
[QUOTE=phygon;38710089]3d printers can print in metal as well, as long as you have the right kind.[/QUOTE] but it's even more expensive and enough plastic to print that lower would cost more than a milled aluminum anyway
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;38710104]but it's even more expensive and enough plastic to print that lower would cost more than a milled aluminum anyway[/QUOTE] Aluminum is a [B]lot[/B] more expensive than you might think, and the stuff that printers use is typically really inexpensive stuff. Metal printing is pricy now, yes, but I don't doubt that the price will go down in years to come.
[QUOTE=phygon;38710147]Aluminum is a [B]lot[/B] more expensive than you might think, and the stuff that printers use is typically really inexpensive stuff. Metal printing is pricy now, yes, but I don't doubt that the price will go down in years to come.[/QUOTE] a milled aluminum AR lower with no fire control parts is around $70, a pound of plastic for a printer is about the same
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;38710255]a milled aluminum AR lower with no fire control parts is around $70, a pound of plastic for a printer is about the same[/QUOTE] Actually, a pound of 3d printer plastic costs about 30-40 dollars, and the price has been going down.
Well, they can start with revolvers.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;38710255]a milled aluminum AR lower with no fire control parts is around $70, a pound of plastic for a printer is about the same[/QUOTE] Like with any new and growing technology that has staying power, it's earliest years are the toughest. The years to come for 3-D printing should it stay around will see an incredible amount of use and capability and growth as well as cheapening of products to accommodate the markets desire we'll see some very affordable materials for some very affordable tools, weapons or things
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;38711020]Like with any new and growing technology that has staying power, it's earliest years are the toughest. The years to come for 3-D printing should it stay around will see an incredible amount of use and capability and growth as well as cheapening of products to accommodate the markets desire we'll see some very affordable materials for some very affordable tools, weapons or things[/QUOTE] it's not like 3D printing is a new thing, it's just that it's just now hitting the consumer market. 3D printing has been around since at least the mid '80s, and I've personally seen articles as old as the late '90s about it
Yeah, good idea, use the amazing new 3D printing technology to make guns. gg murica
I see this as really great for creating prop guns for films and such where they want cheap rifles that are just there to be thrown around.
[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;38711966]I see this as really great for creating prop guns for films and such where they want cheap rifles that are just there to be thrown around.[/QUOTE] My old school had a 3D Printer for the Film/Photography groups to do just this.
[QUOTE=Zorus;38708520]You've already got a firearm if you've got two hands, a hammer, and a bullet.[/QUOTE] The velocity of the projectiles won't be very impressive if there's no barrel.
They had an episode of Csi, in the last few weeks, pertaining to this.
[QUOTE=phygon;38709268]Machine guns and Assault rifles are two different things. Just having a gun be full-auto doesn't make it a machine gun.[/QUOTE] The legal definition for a machine gun is any weapon that is capable of firing multiple rounds with one pull of the trigger. An assault rifle is a machine gun, but a machine gun isn't an assault rifle. [editline]5th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Uberpro;38711210]Yeah, good idea, use the amazing new 3D printing technology to make guns. gg murica[/QUOTE] Yes because America is the only place where guns and 3D printers coexist.
I love how disappointed he looks when the tube breaks.
[QUOTE=Matriax;38705914]Why is this a good thing? I'm aware that in the US you're allowed a firearm, but here in the UK i'd really prefer it if every twerp with an opinion didn't have a weapon a few years down the line.[/QUOTE] From what I can work out you need other non printed parts for it to work, those are the bits you cannot get ahold of in the UK. If / when everything becomes printable there might be an issue here.
[QUOTE=Jsm;38715515]From what I can work out you need other non printed parts for it to work, those are the bits you cannot get ahold of in the UK. If / when everything becomes printable there might be an issue here.[/QUOTE] I could see the trigger and maybe the sear being printable but none of the upper parts will be printable until we can Print as hard and strong as forged aluminum
[QUOTE=Jsm;38715515]From what I can work out you need other non printed parts for it to work, those are the bits you cannot get ahold of in the UK. If / when everything becomes printable there might be an issue here.[/QUOTE] I doubt you'll be able to reliably print an entire gun any time soon. And even then, you'd still have to heat treat it and do other things to strengthen the metal, as I'd imagine the metal straight out of the printer would be extremely weak.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;38715554]I could see the trigger and maybe the sear being printable but none of the upper parts will be printable until we can Print as hard and strong as forged aluminum[/QUOTE] To be honest I can't see the point of 3D printers going that way, too much effort. Might as just well just use a CNC machine, you would get a very similar result.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;38715554]I could see the trigger and maybe the sear being printable but none of the upper parts will be printable until we can Print as hard and strong as forged aluminum[/QUOTE] Even then that leaves the barrel, trunnion and bolt. You can't make those out of aluminum. You'd have to be able to print using steel.
omg someones breaking into my house print a gun
The arms industry is saved!
[QUOTE=paplayer2011;38714978]They had an episode of Csi, in the last few weeks, pertaining to this.[/QUOTE] They also had an episode of CSI where some criminals got their hands on a metal storm system and literally evaporated people with it and another episode where a hurricane picked up a bullet and hurled it through a woman's head. CSI is hardly the place for realism and practicality.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;38715590]Even then that leaves the barrel, trunnion and bolt. You can't make those out of aluminum. You'd have to be able to print using steel.[/QUOTE] The trunnion could be aluminum, but I wouldn't want to be the one to try out an aluminum barrel and bolt
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;38716523]The trunnion could be aluminum, but I wouldn't want to be the one to try out an aluminum barrel and bolt[/QUOTE] I wouldn't trust an aluminum trunnion, but I guess it would work. An aluminum barrel [I]might[/I] work with light .22lr loads.
As far as I know, where I live it is literally easier to get a smuggled illegal weaponry than to print a gun that shoots 6 bullets.
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