10 key reasons why the Obama presidency continues to melt down
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[QUOTE=faze;31624548]Libya is a UN war. This has been said many times, other countries are there too. We're a minority in that country.
What other 2 wars has he started?[/QUOTE]
Airstriking the shit out of Yemen and Pakistan.
[QUOTE=Ridge;31619343]That, and a flat tax for those making above a certain amount (say, $30,000)[/QUOTE]
hey ridge want to know why a flat tax is a bad idea
haha of course you don't because we already told you and you still want it
What the fuck. Tea party members are fucking idiots, aren't they?
[QUOTE=sp00ks;31622312]Good idea, play the victim card.
You get rated dumb a lot because you're really fucking dumb.[/QUOTE]
That does nothing to disprove my point, but it does hurt my self esteem.[img]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-smith.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=RandomVariable;31624497][img]http://i.imgur.com/xbJY8.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I find it really funny that despite the constant rhetoric of 'voting from the rooftops', the Americans of today are less rebellious than the Europeans.
Nice role reversal.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;31625300]hey ridge want to know why a flat tax is a bad idea
haha of course you don't because we already told you and you still want it[/QUOTE]
What's funnier is 6/7% he suggested.
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;31621266]Self defense and war are the only two.
I was talking about in terms of the death penalty.[/QUOTE]
Nope, not in war. If it's war in defence, than that's self defence. Invading countries for no reason, you know, like Iraq, isn't justified.
Death Penalty is murder. There is absolutly no excuse, ever, to execute a person.
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[QUOTE=Contag;31621585]What about the defense of others? Assisted suicide?[/QUOTE]
Assisted suicide is euthanasia and consensual, of course that's allowed, but the other person wants it.
It's still defensive. Basically if you're defending your lands, self or others. That's pretty much the same category.
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what about religion, that's a view[/QUOTE]
Disagreement =/= intolerance.
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[QUOTE=Ridge;31624536]Considering that Obama has gone to war with 3 countries in as many years disagrees with the gist of your post.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it's that fantasy world of yours, but I don't recall Obama going to war with 3 countries.
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[QUOTE=RandomVariable;31624497][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/xbJY8.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
This image is painfully terrible.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;31615996]Ridge, who would you like to see instead of Obama?
Ron Paul and Palin?
lmao[/QUOTE]
Anyone is better than Obama.
[QUOTE=Ridge;31624833]Airstriking the shit out of Yemen and Pakistan.[/QUOTE]
Drone attacks in Pakistan started with bush and Yemen was barely anything.
Those aren't wars. Neither is Libya if you're implying it.
But what's wrong with airstriking little brown people? I thought you Republicans loved that stuff. Oh, now you're anti-war once a black guy is in the white house?
[QUOTE=redBadger;31629124]Anyone is better than Obama.[/QUOTE]Stop watching Fox News.
[QUOTE=redBadger;31629124]Anyone is better than Obama.[/QUOTE]
y'know, I can think of a few people that Obama is better than.
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Like any and all Republicans for example.
[QUOTE=redBadger;31629124]Anyone is better than Obama.[/QUOTE]
I was wondering when you'd show up to post something silly like this
is Santorum better than Obama? I find it hard to believe frothy shit is better than Obama
Boba_Fett Agree's with him. heh.
This isn't news, just a biased raging conservative. Conservatism isn't growing in America, the newest generations are less religious and more liberal than any others born before in America. While I sense that people don't really have faith in the government, that doesn't mean they have faith in the Republicans or Tea Party. If anything most people just dislike political parties in general.
[QUOTE=amute;31631442]Boba_Fett Agree's with him. heh.[/QUOTE]
Not everyone is better than Obama, but there are quite a lot of people who I think could do a better job.
Democrats and Republicans included.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31634709]Not everyone is better than Obama, but there are quite a lot of people who I think could do a better job.
Democrats and Republicans included.[/QUOTE]
Such as who?
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31634709]Not everyone is better than Obama, but there are quite a lot of people who I think could do a better job.
Democrats and Republicans included.[/QUOTE]The Republican party cannot lead this country properly. George Bush's little posse is why everyone hates Republicans, for the most part.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31634709]Not everyone is better than Obama, but there are quite a lot of people who I think could do a better job.
Democrats and Republicans included.[/QUOTE]
There is not one republican who isn't too far right to not just crash the country back 20 years in social policy and who wouldn't just exacerbate the current fiscal issue with unnecessary tax cuts and social program cuts(Yes, you dislike social programs, but social programs keep people going. If effective social programs didn't exist, there would be a lot less opportunity in the poorer peoples lives to advance anywhere) and who wouldn't just lock down any attempt to be partisan.
You can hate Obama all you want, but he's been partisan and he's been diplomatic.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;31634860]There is not one republican who isn't too far right to not just crash the country back 20 years in social policy and who wouldn't just exacerbate the current fiscal issue with unnecessary tax cuts and social program cuts(Yes, you dislike social programs, but social programs keep people going. If effective social programs didn't exist, there would be a lot less opportunity in the poorer peoples lives to advance anywhere) and who wouldn't just lock down any attempt to be partisan.
You can hate Obama all you want, but he's been partisan and he's been diplomatic.[/QUOTE]Republicans will argue that until they are blue in the face. The right hates social programs. They just like war.
[QUOTE=faze;31635090]Republicans will argue that until they are blue in the face. The right hates social programs. They just like war.[/QUOTE]
Thus creating a lower class which only opportunity for those to get up the ladder is getting a military career??
[QUOTE=Van-man;31635143]Thus creating a lower class which only opportunity for those to get up the ladder is getting a military career??[/QUOTE]
I forget who exactly said this but, and I'm paraphrasing loosely
The right's against abortion because they want your kids to grow up and go to war for them.
[QUOTE=Van-man;31635143]Thus creating a lower class which only opportunity for those to get up the ladder is getting a military career??[/QUOTE]That's what they like. "Big bad America" is basically Republicans in a nutshell.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;31635241]I forget who exactly said this but, and I'm paraphrasing loosely
The right's against abortion because they want your kids to grow up and go to war for them.[/QUOTE]
George Carlin I believe.
[QUOTE=Ridge;31619530]Oil exports[/QUOTE]
Yeah hi. Noticed how Sweden and Finland and Denmark have no oil exports, but still all tree are on the top 5 most secure AAA-rated countries?
[QUOTE=redBadger;31629124]Anyone is better than Obama.[/QUOTE]
redbadger supports the resurrection of Adolf Hitler for US President
heard it here first
[QUOTE=faze;31634758]The Republican party cannot lead this country properly. George Bush's little posse is why everyone hates Republicans, for the most part.[/QUOTE]
George Bush never followed the concept of small government. Instead, he ended up making the federal government way too large, and he led us into two foreign conflicts.
I can easily see why he isn't popular, and frankly, I think he did a terrible job as well.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31635934]George Bush never followed the concept of small government. Instead, he ended up making the federal government way too large, and he led us into two foreign conflicts.
I can easily see why he isn't popular, and frankly, I think he did a terrible job as well.[/QUOTE]His large government was purely based on military. "Large government" in its literal term is defined in social programs.
I don't think that people realize that the way American politics work is that when a Democrat is president the Republicans insult him and call it "worst president ever", and vice-versa.
The REAL issue in American politics is not Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, the Tea Party or anything in the broad spectrum of political points of view. The problem is that this lateralization has made America disorganized, overly bureaucratic and simply slow to react.
Picture it as two conjoined twins, each controlling an arm and a leg, and attempting to move forward without communicating. It's impossible, and that's the real culprit of the stagnation of modern day America, miscommunication, and irreconcilable differences.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;31636089]I don't think that people realize that the way American politics work is that when a Democrat is president the Republicans insult him and call it "worst president ever", and vice-versa.
The REAL issue in American politics is not Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, the Tea Party or anything in the broad spectrum of political points of view. The problem is that this lateralization has made America disorganized, overly bureaucratic and simply slow to react.
Picture it as two conjoined twins, each controlling an arm and a leg, and attempting to move forward without communicating. It's impossible, and that's the real culprit of the stagnation of modern day America, miscommunication, and irreconcilable differences.[/QUOTE]Everybody knows the two-party system is the issue. The non-extremists anyway.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;31636089]I don't think that people realize that the way American politics work is that when a Democrat is president the Republicans insult him and call it "worst president ever", and vice-versa.
The REAL issue in American politics is not Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, the Tea Party or anything in the broad spectrum of political points of view. The problem is that this lateralization has made America disorganized, overly bureaucratic and simply slow to react.
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Are you arguing for totalitarianism?
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[QUOTE=faze;31636106]Everybody knows the two-party system is the issue. The non-extremists anyway.[/QUOTE]
And that each party isn't actually [I]that[/I] distinct in terms of policy.
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