The Utah House has passed a bill banning any mention of contraception in sex education classes; if a - Polidicks

[B]WOOOOOOOAH THERE[/B] This is INSANE. Utah, what the fuck are you doing? Also, this isn't funny, this is actually a serious problem.

What the hell. I actually hope aids spreads through Utah and gets to the people who voted this bill through.

[QUOTE=Zacca;34858257]What the hell. [B]I actually hope aids spreads through Utah [/B]and gets to the people who voted this bill through.[/QUOTE] The fuck is wrong with you?

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;34858261]The fuck is wrong with you?[/QUOTE] I think it would be fitting if these legislators ended up dying as a direct result of their stupid policies

[QUOTE=zombini;34857741]Odd how this abstinence thing is actually backfiring. More people are getting laid and more people my age are having children, and only just this decade we started the Abstinence bullshit. My neighbor had a baby boy in September last year and she was 17 when impregnated, by her weed dealer.[/QUOTE] It's not odd in the least. It's been pretty well established that humans are going to have sex no matter how much you shame them or tell them not to, because it's a natural, healthy urge. Limiting access to information about how to practice safer sex is, then, obviously going to lead to people practicing pretty unsafe sex, which results in much higher rates of unwanted pregnancies and STIs.

Shocking fact from history channel: Utah was originally named "Deseret" and was made by mormons trying to escape from US Juristiction, but the US Caught up and when they wanted Deseret to become a state, they failed because most of the laws arent "American", so they tweaked it and tweaked it until they became a state. -informative stuff ripped from History shows like How the States got Their Shapes. Sorry for the history lesson, but it does kind of make sense once you see this new law, this is why Religion shouldnt have a place in politics, and you got tons of evidence to prove it: 13th century London.

This should be a fun little experiment. Let's make a game, whoever guesses closest to the percent that pregnancy rises in the state of Utah wins.

Feeding ignorance only makes problems far, far worse.

[QUOTE=Zacca;34858257]What the hell. I actually hope aids spreads through Utah and gets to the people who voted this bill through.[/QUOTE] I find that offensive. Not all of us are batshit LDS fundamentalist wackjobs.

[QUOTE=Billy Maize;34856674]Colorado hasn't been making many bad decisions lately.[/QUOTE] Well, only [I]half[/I] of Colorado is mountains. Half of it is as flat as Kansas. [sp]Trust me, I've made the road trip from Kansas City to Denver or a city past Denver dozens of times. And I'm currently living on the edge of where the Rockies start.[/sp] /serious-discussion-about-a-joke-involving-mountains [QUOTE=bull04;34857799]I know that feel bro. I live in Utah too and the shit here is so backwards. I was in Sex ed last semester, and we were talking about safe sex. "What's the safest form of sex?" "Oh, it's abstinence!" That's like saying the safest way to play dodgeball is to not play dodgeball. It's a contradiction.[/QUOTE] Now I can't help but imagine some Utah teacher going "If you can dodge a dildo, you can dodge a dick" and throwing sex toys at middle schoolers.

-sigh- this kind of sex ed has been in Georgia for years at this point. Annoying really. Granted at the point that the class came around, my parents had already done their job ("The Talk"). So when the class came around, I actually aced the pre-test. Aced it every year actually. One kid mentioned condoms one year, and just about got kicked out of the class for it. Teacher chick was very quick to point out that this was [I]not[/I] a religious program, however her incredible opposition to anal sex "That is an exit ONLY! It is NOT for sex!" and her absolute abhorrence of contraceptives seemed to imply otherwise... The whole class follows the same basic routine. "This is a penis, this is a vagina, and theeeeese... are STD INFECTED VERSIONS OF THE SAME THING." *AUGH noises from the whole class* "LOOK AT IT. LOOK. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE UNSAFE SEX" 'But teacher, how do I have safe sex?' "SIMPLE! DON'T HAVE SEX! ABSTINENCE IS THE ONLY WAY TO BE SAFE WHEN HAVING SEX!" 'But what about con-' "WE DON'T TEACH THAT HERE YOU WHORE, GET OUT OF MY CLASS." When it came to be that time in Highschool, i refused to sign the permission forms, so they put me in another room and had me do bookwork instead. Finished it all in the first day, spent the next 2 weeks playing games and listening to the class next door scream at every infected dick that got shown to them.

This is unbelievable amounts of stupid. And I'm Christian.

[QUOTE=shadowray7;34859123]This is unbelievable amounts of stupid. And I'm Christian.[/QUOTE] Well you're not a very good christian if you disagree with this (unless you don't take the bible literally but... not many of those people about)

Dancing around the subject will only make teens want it more. So common sense would tells us to just teach on how to protect you and your partner.

Probably the worst state.

45-28 vote? How the [B][I]fuck[/I][/B] does this happen?

In Switzerland didn't they make condoms for 12 year old's?

[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;34855905]"Kids if you have sex outside of marriage you'll have AIDS! Condoms are the devil's making!" Seriously, the fuck is wrong with Utah.[/QUOTE] Its more of an America thing..

[QUOTE=EurofanBMW;34860163]Its more of an America thing..[/QUOTE] Sadly so. I live across the country from Utah and had to put up with the same shit when I went to school. Almost entirely focused on abstinence

This is the kind of thing that missionaries from the Vatican taught the Africans, while we were trying to give them condoms and sex ed. AIDS levels soared.

hahaha enjoy your aids

[QUOTE=Zacca;34858257]I actually hope aids spreads through Utah[/QUOTE] AIDS is the syndrome. you mean HIV.

No matter what your beliefs are, promoting abstinence [B]doesn't work.[/B] Of course there will be a small number of people who will take that advice to heart, (I should know, I'm one of them) but they can come to that conclusion on their own when they learn about various STD's or the cost of raising a child, to name a few. The rest of us [B]will[/B] have sex and it will be in various forms, depending on the person. No matter what school you go to, no matter what area you live in, you can be [B]guaranteed[/B] that someone living there has had sex whether it be outside or inside a marriage, of age or under age. By not telling students about contraceptives you're opening the floodgates for a wave of unnecessary problems into peoples' lives. I agree abstinence is the best thing you can do. The problem is: [B]No one wants to do it.[/B]

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Here in England we have it right, Sex ed is almost completely contraception and disease based as they know teaching abstinence won't work. Actually you can even get free condoms and morning after pills from the NHS if you're under 25 in some counties.

[QUOTE=Hidole555;34861120]No matter what your beliefs are, promoting abstinence [B]doesn't work.[/B] Of course there will be a small number of people who will take that advice to heart, (I should know, I'm one of them) but they can come to that conclusion on their own when they learn about various STD's or the cost of raising a child, to name a few. The rest of us [B]will[/B] have sex and it will be in various forms, depending on the person. No matter what school you go to, no matter what area you live in, you can be [B]guaranteed[/B] that someone living there has had sex whether it be outside or inside a marriage, of age or under age. By not telling students about contraceptives you're opening the floodgates for a wave of unnecessary problems into peoples' lives. I agree abstinence is the best thing you can do. The problem is: [B]No one wants to do it.[/B][/QUOTE] Soon you're probably going to back all of that up with "research" and "reality". Jesus doesn't want us to use condoms, that's all I need to know.

It's not really surprising since there's a mormon church every half mile.

Ugh, fucking Utah. The one state that openly endorses religious re-education facilities (if you read that thread about the lesbian from last year, you'll know what I mean) Hilariously, Salt Lake City has been voted the gayest tourist destination in the US.

I thought America was supposed to separate the church from the state?

[QUOTE=Arsonist;34863648]I thought America was supposed to separate the church from the state?[/QUOTE] Next you'll be telling me it's the land of the free.