EA/Origin: If you don't log in for 2 years we'll delete all the games you paid for - Polidicks

That's a stupid argument, as you won't have to re-buy your fucking car

You don't have to rebuy your games either.

That's worse than Activision. [editline]18th July 2011[/editline] Unless, of course they mean 'deleting' as in uninstalling and allowing you to re-install it.

[QUOTE=redBadger;31190333] "Hello, banker. I'd like to receive $100 from the account I set up and the paycheck which I earned."[/QUOTE] What the hell kind of bank requires you to get special permission from them to withdraw your money Your bank card doesn't stop working if you don't use it for a while, and your account with money in it is most certainly not closed Not a fucking comparison at all [editline]18th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ChaosUnleash;31193097]The argument is more like "If you don't use your car for two years then you need to get someone to help you jump start the battery" (I know that some people can do it themselves, but it's not as if the 'car' would never start again.) You just have to ask for help and then it works.[/QUOTE] There is a mechanical reason why an unused car might not start There isn't a good reason why old accounts [i]with games[/i] get deleted [editline]18th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ChaosUnleash;31189210] Steam says that they can cancel whenever they want for no reason.[/QUOTE] The difference is that there is no precedent of Valve doing this. EA Download Manager users, however, have had their accounts removed for inactivity in the past.

Heck I even had my game removed and they want me to rebuy it on their service if I'm to get it back. I bought it on Steam where it'll remain (fully patched I might add unlike on Origin where they give you the base game only). Why would EA disable the account? The goods are intangible (ie digital) and only one copy of the file needs to exist on the server with a database entry to the users unique key. So please explain how it's acceptable for them to disable the account. There is no valid reason I can think of that would warrant them doing such an action. The reason this isn't aimed at much at Valve as it is EA ChaosUnleash is because people trust Valve. EA has been known to pull stunts like this without any prior consideration. They used to charge you what, $10 to download the game for an additional two years? What's to stop them from pulling that same stunt again?

Activision's Battle.net rules are also pretty fucking terrible. I activated my Warcraft 3 key on there, however it no longer lets me download the game off battle.net because I've "reached the limit of downloads" and asks me to purchase another copy of the game. Fuck that shit. At least I still have my CD-key in physical form, but what if I didn't? They don't even let you see your key on their after you've "hit the limit".

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31195205] There is a mechanical reason why an unused car might not start There isn't a good reason why old accounts [i]with games[/i] get deleted[/QUOTE] Yes, the car was a bad analogy, that was my point. What about with mobile phones? There is no reason for them to deactivate your mobile phone account, other than to save a tiny amount of space somewhere, but they still do it. This sort of thing happens all of the time, and is likely just there as a failsafe. Even if they do enforce the rule, the chances of somebody not using their account at all for two years are pretty slim, and even if they DID go for two years without ever logging into the service, then EA have said they will reopen the account. Also, if Origin really is just a platform to download the game, what is to stop you from backing up your download onto an external harddrive or even burning them to disks?

whatever... atleast i got bf3 for 20 euros with the sale that was on origin some time ago... For 30 euros cheaper i'd gladly use origin :p

[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;31197243]Activision's Battle.net rules are also pretty fucking terrible. I activated my Warcraft 3 key on there, however it no longer lets me download the game off battle.net because I've "reached the limit of downloads" and asks me to purchase another copy of the game. Fuck that shit. At least I still have my CD-key in physical form, but what if I didn't? They don't even let you see your key on their after you've "hit the limit".[/QUOTE] Just download the game again via torrent in that case, since you already own a key.

It's just a failsafe for them in case some bad shit happens, Steam also has in their terms of service that they can terminate your account without having to give you a reason, etc, etc.

[QUOTE=camper182 V2;31199117]whatever... atleast i got bf3 for 20 euros with the sale that was on origin some time ago... For 30 euros cheaper i'd gladly use origin :p[/QUOTE] EA put an unreleased game on sale?

[QUOTE=Ridge;31201375]EA put an unreleased game on sale?[/QUOTE] Oh yes, you can preorder way in advance. I got Crysis 2 for free from the EA store before it was even leaked (obviously I had to wait until it came out, but it was put on sale before then)

[QUOTE=Ridge;31201375]EA put an unreleased game on sale?[/QUOTE]yeah, but i guess it was an accident... :p a good one

I swear to god, EA and Activi$ion have some sort of pathological compulsion to be assholes. There's just no other explanation for the shit they do besides disgusting greed.

[QUOTE=ChaosUnleash;31198573]Yes, the car was a bad analogy, that was my point. What about with mobile phones? There is no reason for them to deactivate your mobile phone account, other than to save a tiny amount of space somewhere, but they still do it. [b]This sort of thing happens all of the time[/b], and is likely just there as a failsafe.[/QUOTE] because people keep letting companies get away with it

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31218202]because people keep letting companies get away with it[/QUOTE] Compare the amount of people who complain about COD to the amount that bought the game and don't. "Hey, 90% of our customers aren't complaining! We must be doing a great job!" -Activision (The part that is oblivious to it's obvious ripping-off)

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31218202]because people keep letting companies get away with it[/QUOTE] That's because, like John Carmack said, these companies are pushing out games that they know a good chunk of people want. Companies like EA and Activision are like fast food giants. They push out shit people want, and they know they can get away with bullshit because there's just so many people who will willingly stand up and take it, or, even worse, ASK for it. [editline]20th July 2011[/editline] No one goes after businesses unless they don't feel satisfied with their product or conduct.

[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;31218635]Compare the amount of people who complain about COD to the amount that bought the game and don't. "Hey, 90% of our customers aren't complaining! We must be doing a great job!" -Activision (The part that is oblivious to it's obvious ripping-off)[/QUOTE] What the hell does Call of Duty have to do with this Activision isn't doing anything anti-consumer with CoD. [editline]19th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Reimu;31219624]That's because, like John Carmack said, these companies are pushing out games that they know a good chunk of people want. Companies like EA and Activision are like fast food giants. They push out shit people want, and they know they can get away with bullshit because there's just so many people who will willingly stand up and take it, or, even worse, ASK for it. [editline]20th July 2011[/editline] No one goes after businesses unless they don't feel satisfied with their product or conduct.[/QUOTE] There really is no bullshit in fast food either. Nutritional information is readily available on their website (if not on the food packaging itself) and if you don't like it they'll give you your money back and you never need to eat there again. Your burger certainly isn't deleted if you don't finish it in 10 minutes

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31219655] There really is no bullshit in fast food either. Nutritional information is readily available on their website (if not on the food packaging itself) and if you don't like it they'll give you your money back and you never need to eat there again. Your burger certainly isn't deleted if you don't finish it in 10 minutes[/QUOTE] The nutritional information is really just as much of an afterthought as reading the EULA for any product. Only smart people walk into a McDonalds, and tell themselves, "Hmm, I want x but I need to see how that can impact my diet" If you've read the "Eat This, Not That" book series, there's a lot of startling info about how the chicken products McDonalds and Burger King try to market are actually dead awful for you. Same with the Salads. These companies just bullshit you with advertising inside and outside the store that suggest there are healthy alternatives at fast food stores, when really it's just full of crap. But people go to the restaurants and willingly tell themselves, "It's a salad, it must be healthy and represent how y-company is making moves to be more healthy!" The problem mostly is, in both cases, people are just soaking up whatever the company throws their way because they feel satisfied with the product they're receiving. There's no motivation to get up and do something against it, like write to EA, because most of Origin's customers are probably EA fans.

I don't know about America but here the nutritional information on a Mcdonalds burger is in a big box on the side of the package the food comes in, hardly an afterthought. You can't help but miss it.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31220007]I don't know about America but here the nutritional information on a Mcdonalds burger is in a big box on the side of the package the food comes in, hardly an afterthought. You can't help but miss it.[/QUOTE] Depending on the restaurant, there might a very small indicator of nutritional info. Easily covered with your pinky on some boxes. Most Americans really just don't care.

[QUOTE=Reimu;31220034]Depending on the restaurant, there's usually a very small indicator of nutritional info. Easily covered with your pinky on some boxes. Most Americans really just don't care.[/QUOTE] Probably less to do with people not caring and more to do with federal law not making them put it on there

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31220048]Probably less to do with people not caring and more to do with federal law not making them put it on there[/QUOTE] Usually the nutritional info is on a wall chart somewhere, and usually that is covered by a standee.

EA Just euthanized my Origin account. I can not log in, says no connection to the servers. [B]My name what my friends see on their friends list is: $user.getEald() AND when they try to open my profile page it gives out a system error.[/B] Thank you EA.

EA fucking its customers over is nothing new guys, but shit is getting too far, I'm not even going to buy BF3 to prove a point.

[QUOTE=B!N4RY;31199324]Just download the game again via torrent in that case, since you already own a key.[/QUOTE] Yeah but then they'll probably sue the living shit out of him if they find out. He legally has it but his 'pirating it' is a loss of (((IMAGINARY))) sales! [QUOTE=Kuro.;31217763]Activi[B]$[/B]ion[/QUOTE] I'm going to call them that from now on.