KKK chapter wants to adopt stretch of Georgia highway
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[QUOTE]Atlanta (CNN) -- A North Georgia chapter of the Ku Klux Klan has applied to "adopt" a stretch of highway in Union County, Georgia, according to paperwork obtained by CNN on Monday.
The application, which would allow the white supremacy group to receive state recognition for cleaning up a one-mile portion of a highway, was filed by the International Keystone Knights of the KKK on May 21.
If the Georgia Department of Transportation accepts the application, the KKK would be responsible for cleaning litter on a part of Georgia State Route 515 in the Appalachian Mountains near the North Carolina border.
[B]"All we want to do is adopt a highway," said April Chambers, the chapter's secretary. "We're not doing it for publicity. We're doing it to keep the mountains beautiful. People throwing trash out on the side of the road ... that ain't right."[/B]
Jill Goldberg, a Georgia DOT spokeswoman, confirmed the application but said, "the department is deferring comment beyond that, however, until a resolution is determined."
DOT officials will discuss the matter Monday with representatives from the state attorney general's office, she said.
Chambers told CNN she didn't know anything about that meeting but said the group is supposed to meet with the DOT at some point. State Rep. Tyrone Brooks, D-Atlanta, has been working against the group's adoption application, she said.
"We're not racists," Chambers said Monday. "We just want to be with white people. If that's a crime, then I don't know. It's all right to be black and Latino and proud, but you can't be white and proud. I don't understand it."
[B]A similar request in Missouri set off a legal battle that stretched for years and went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. A Ku Klux Klan chapter sought to adopt a portion of Interstate 55. A federal appeals court ruled the state could not bar the KKK from participating in the program, and the high court declined to review the case, letting that ruling stand.[/B]
[B]However, the Missouri Department of Transportation eventually kicked the KKK out of the program because members were not picking up trash as agreed, spokesman Bob Brendel said Monday. The state also named the stretch of I-55 after civil rights activist Rosa Parks, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.[/B]
Georgia has been participating in the Adopt-A-Highway program for more than 20 years. The program provides advertising for sponsors who agree to clean a stretch of road on a sign posted along the stretch.
"Any civic-minded organization, business, individual, family, city, county, state, or federal agency is welcome to volunteer in the Georgia Adopt-A-Highway program," the DOT website says.
There is no charge to sponsors, Goldberg said. "We provide the safety vest and materials to collect the trash. We provide what's needed to do the program ... their contribution is the labor."
Chambers said the group is more than 100 strong. "We have a lot of support," she said.
[B]"I don't see why we can't (adopt the stretch of highway)," she said. "Would it be any different if it was the Black Panthers or something? Someone always has some kind of race card."[/B]
On its website, the International Keystone Knights of the KKK says it is [B]"fed up with the Federal tyranny and oppression of Reconstruction, and the time was ripe for Clandestine Armed Resistance."[/B] :v:
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups, lists the KKK as "the most infamous -- and oldest -- of American hate groups."
"Over the years since it was formed in December 1865, the Klan has typically seen itself as a Christian organization, although in modern times Klan groups are motivated by a variety of theological and political ideologies," the law center's website says.
"We're not a hate group," Chambers insisted Monday. "We don't hate anybody. We're just white people that want to stick with white people. The NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) wants to stick with black people. Just because I'm white, I can't stick with my own group?"[/QUOTE]
Source: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/us/georgia-kkk-highway/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1[/url]
It's painful for me to say, but...I really don't see any reason to deny them this.
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"I don't see why we can't (adopt the stretch of highway)," she said. "Would it be any different if it was the Black Panthers or something? Someone always has some kind of race card."[/quote]
lmao someone literally has no idea who the black panthers were or what they did
[QUOTE=Lazor;36296745]lmao someone literally has no idea who the black panthers were or what they did[/QUOTE]
Weren't the Black Panthers pretty much as violent as the KKK, if not moreso, and much more open about it?
[QUOTE=Loriborn;36296784]Weren't the Black Panthers pretty much as violent as the KKK, if not moreso, and much more open about it?[/QUOTE]
um no not even close
...So, they're just wanting to adopt the highway to clean up trash?
[Quote]"We're not a hate group," Chambers insisted Monday. "We don't hate anybody. We're just white people that want to stick with white people. The NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) wants to stick with black people. Just because I'm white, I can't stick with my own group?"[/Quote]
I think someone is in the wrong group. If you just want to be around white people, you might want to make your own group, as the KKK has some pretty evil stuff under it's name.
[QUOTE=Lazor;36296745]lmao someone literally has no idea who the black panthers were or what they did[/QUOTE]
lmao, someone literally did not understand the point of what she said.
[QUOTE=Lazor;36296785]um no not even close[/QUOTE]
They where pretty violent.
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;36296794]
I think someone is in the wrong group. If you just want to be around white people, you might want to make your own group, as the KKK has some pretty evil stuff under it's name.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand why people want to be "in groups" anyway. Can't we all just be a bunch of equal individuals?
[quote]lmao, someone literally did not understand the point of what she said.[/quote]
the point of what she said is pretty much destroyed by the lack of any sort of equivalency between the two groups
were not racists we just don't want to be around darkies and spics ok
[QUOTE=Lazor;36296785]um no not even close[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party#Controversy[/url]
Do these guys realise they are living in the 21st century?
This kind of shit should have stopped 100 years ago. Now it's just sad.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36296812]I don't understand why people want to be "in groups" anyway. Can't we all just be a bunch of equal individuals?[/QUOTE]
Impossible, sadly.
But as long as people are in their own little groups and aren't causing any ruckus or harm. I can't say I have any problems with it.
KKK highway cleanup
aka black people's designated litter zone
[QUOTE=darcy010;36296840]Do these guys realise they are living in the 21st century?
This kind of shit should have stopped 100 years ago. Now it's just sad.[/QUOTE]
Wide spread legality of it stopped only 50 years ago.
Not the desire of it.
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[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;36296864]KKK highway cleanup
aka black people's designated litter zone[/QUOTE]
I don't support the KKK, but I would be pretty upset to see a road get more trash on it just because of that.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36296825][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party#Controversy[/url][/QUOTE]
ok they were "violent" but not even in near the same sense(or number of incidents even, as the KKK!)
like zero equivalency can be made between the two groups.
it could possibly be because the KKK has been considered a domestic terrorist organization since like the late 1800's.
[QUOTE=Lazor;36296904]ok they were "violent" but not even in near the same sense(or number of incidents even, as the KKK!)
like zero equivalency can be made between the two groups.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, the KKK has been around a hell of a lot longer to have a bigger track record.
[QUOTE=Lazor;36296904]ok they were "violent" but not even in near the same sense(or number of incidents even, as the KKK!)
like zero equivalency can be made between the two groups.[/QUOTE]
They're both pro-race groups, and have a violent background. Those are two PRETTY big things.
Just because one was more violent than the other doesn't erase the fact that the other group was still violent.
[QUOTE=Lankist;36296910]it could possibly be because the KKK has been considered a domestic terrorist organization since like the late 1800's.[/QUOTE]
I didn't even know "domestic terrorist organization" was a concept during any part of the 1800s
[QUOTE=Loriborn;36296784]Weren't the Black Panthers pretty much as violent as the KKK, if not moreso, and much more open about it?[/QUOTE]
They had some violent incidents, not as much as the KKK and they did a lot for their community like starting free medical clinics and drug rehab
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They're both pro-race groups, and have a violent background. Those are two PRETTY big things.
Just because one was more violent than the other doesn't erase the fact that the other group was still violent.
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I agree.
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;36296932]They're both pro-race groups, and have a violent background. Those are two PRETTY big things.
Just because one was more violent than the other doesn't erase the fact that the other group was still violent.[/QUOTE]
They're both horrible. Let's say that.
[QUOTE=OvB;36296940]They're both horrible. Let's say that.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
Any pro-race groups have never turned out good. Even if they had a good cause in mind.
[QUOTE=OvB;36296940]They're both horrible. Let's say that.[/QUOTE]
lmao yeah i sure do take issue when an oppressed group actually takes a defensive stand!
definitely just as bad as an oppressive group terrorizing the oppressed group!
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36296937]I didn't even know "domestic terrorist organization" was a concept during any part of the 1800s[/QUOTE]
Terrorism has been a concept since before the United States existed. It's not a new thing.
They were declared a terrorist organization by the federal government following the Civil War. Of course, that was primarily because that KKK was comprised of secessionists who couldn't accept that they'd lost. The federal government didn't really give two shits about the racism at that point.
[QUOTE=Lazor;36296960]lmao yeah i sure do take issue when an oppressed group actually takes a defensive stand!
definitely just as bad as an oppressive group terrorizing the oppressed group![/QUOTE]
I prefer this taking a defensive stand
[img]http://blog.timesunion.com/yourday/files/2012/01/rev-martin-luther-king-jr-speech.jpg[/img]
to this taking a defensive stand
[img]http://www.fairblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Black-Panther-Party.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Lazor;36296904]ok they were "violent" but not even in near the same sense(or number of incidents even, as the KKK!)
like zero equivalency can be made between the two groups.[/QUOTE]
Yea there is.
Both are hate groups that use violence and intimidation to advance their agenda.
Both are despicable organizations that shouldn't exist.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;36296978]I prefer this taking a defensive stand
[img]http://blog.timesunion.com/yourday/files/2012/01/rev-martin-luther-king-jr-speech.jpg[/img]
to this taking a defensive stand
[img]http://www.fairblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Black-Panther-Party.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
The Black Panthers were a pseudo-defensive stand.
Racial solidarity is a defense against violent persecution (such as lynchings). The government was unwilling to protect the black population, so some decided to protect themselves.
Black people were still the victims, regardless of the disparities between responses.
[QUOTE=Lazor;36296960]lmao yeah i sure do take issue when an oppressed group actually takes a defensive stand!
definitely just as bad as an oppressive group terrorizing the oppressed group![/QUOTE]
indiscriminate violence against white people is "taking a stand"?
i can at least understand saying the black panthers aren't as bad as the KKK but justifying the shit they did?
[QUOTE=Lankist;36296992]The Black Panthers were a pseudo-defensive stand.
Racial solidarity is a defense against violent persecution (such as lynchings). The government was unwilling to protect the black population, so some decided to protect themselves.
Black people were still the victims, regardless of the disparities between responses.[/QUOTE]
Standing idle in the middle of the streets with guns isn't defending yourself.
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;36297005]Standing idle in the middle of the streets with guns isn't defending yourself.[/QUOTE]
they were there to spot incidences of police brutality you nitwit
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;36297005]Standing idle in the middle of the streets with guns isn't defending yourself.[/QUOTE]
When your buildings have a tendency to get firebombed it sure as all fuck [I]is.[/I]
Black parties were under constant threat during the Civil Rights Movement. Need I remind you how Martin Luther King Jr.'s story ended?
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