[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;39433618] This is the human experience. We rebuild, we move on, and we forget.[/QUOTE] it isn't that people move on or forget, it's that most people will never know, and most people will never care. i think it's a good motivation to get more involved in your community at the very least.
My heart goes out to his family. While it is very sad that this man felt he had to take his own life, at least he did so without causing physical harm to others. (Shooting up a school or what have you)
As for the gun debate that will most likely come up in this thread, I can say this: with or without a gun, this man would have probably taken his own life regardless.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39433644]By saying "go for the high score" I assume you mean take as many out with you as possible? Yeah that kind of thinking is what leads to mass shootings, you should probably get your head checked bud[/QUOTE]
Think of it in terms of pseudo-code:
[code] IF mentally ill
kill self and others
ELSE
live normally
END IF
mentally ill = 0[/code]
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39433644]By saying "go for the high score" I assume you mean take as many out with you as possible? Yeah that kind of thinking is what leads to mass shootings, you should probably get your head checked bud[/QUOTE]
I think (I [I]hope[/I]) he means "put on a show"
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39433659]it isn't that people move on or forget, it's that most people will never know, and most people will never care. i think it's a good motivation to get more involved in your community at the very least.[/QUOTE]
They say that immortality has many forms, having a legacy being one of them.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;39433669]Think of it in terms of pseudo-code:
[code] IF mentally ill
kill self and others
ELSE
live normally
END IF
mentally ill = 0[/code][/QUOTE]
yeah no you're mental
go get it checked
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39433644]By saying "go for the high score" I assume you mean take as many out with you as possible? Yeah that kind of thinking is what leads to mass shootings, you should probably get your head checked bud[/QUOTE]
Regular people fantasise about killing friends or coworkers all the time and they're not wrong in the head. These sorts of thoughts might make you feel guilty as hell but everyone gets them on occasion.
I don't think the man is being selfish for ending his life via a firearm either. That's just silly.
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;39433691]Regular people fantasise about killing friends or coworkers all the time and they're not wrong in the head. These sorts of thoughts might make you feel guilty as hell but everyone gets them on occasion.[/QUOTE]
no thats just you
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;39433679]They say that immortality has many forms, having a legacy being one of them.[/QUOTE]
Go get your head checked. You seriously sound like a kid who would shoot up a school.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;39433685]yeah no you're mental go get it checked[/QUOTE] i don't think you can really make that claim. it's quite normal for people to have "insane" thoughts like that. thinking them is one thing, acting upon them is another.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39433703]Go get your head checked. You seriously sound like a kid who would shoot up a school.[/QUOTE]
I meant like a Walt Disney kind of legacy.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39433663]My heart goes out to his family. While it is very sad that this man felt he had to take his own life, at least he did so without causing physical harm to others. (Shooting up a school or what have you)
As for the gun debate that will most likely come up in this thread, I can say this: with or without a gun, this man would have probably taken his own life regardless.[/QUOTE]
it's more annoying and disrespectful when you make predictions of what people will do in a thread
But yeah, you caught me. If I was mentally ill, yes, I would do mentally ill things. It's sort of how being mentally ill works.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;39433669]Think of it in terms of pseudo-code:
[code] IF mentally ill
kill self and others
ELSE
live normally
END IF
mentally ill = 0[/code][/QUOTE]
No matter how fucked up, unfair and gay I think this world may be, I would never take it out on other people.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;39433713]No matter how fucked up, unfair and gay I think this world may be, I would never take it out on other people.[/QUOTE]
Me neither.
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;39433691]
I don't think the man is being selfish for ending his life via a firearm either. That's just silly.[/QUOTE]
The act of suicide (assuming you're not suffering from an terminal/permanent illness that causes you constant pain) is a selfish and cowardly act. No matter how you do it, you will affect someone else. Everyone from your mom, to the person that has to clean up your corpse will be affected by your actions. It's a selfish thing to do.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39433723]The act of suicide (assuming you're not suffering from an terminal/permanent illness that causes you constant pain) is a selfish and cowardly act. No matter how you do it, you will affect someone else. Everyone from your mom, to the person that has to clean up your corpse will be affected by your actions. It's a selfish thing to do.[/QUOTE]
What happens when you have a terminal illness and you don't want to lie in bed for months while you waste away?
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;39433729]What happens when you have a terminal illness and you don't want to lie in bed for months while you waste away?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39433723][b](assuming you're not suffering from an terminal/permanent illness that causes you constant pain)[/b][/QUOTE]
My bad.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39433723]The act of suicide (assuming you're not suffering from an terminal/permanent illness that causes you constant pain) is a selfish and cowardly act. No matter how you do it, you will affect someone else. Everyone from your mom, to the person that has to clean up your corpse will be affected by your actions. It's a selfish thing to do.[/QUOTE] it's hard to look down on someone or simply label them as "selfish" when the mental anguish they felt was apparently strong enough to make them ignore their own self-preservation instinct and take their life. it takes an extreme amount of pain to seriously want to "turn off" like that.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39433705]i don't think you can really make that claim. it's quite normal for people to have "insane" thoughts like that. thinking them is one thing, acting upon them is another.[/QUOTE]
I seriously hope someone close to you talks about doing some (minor) shit and then [I]does it[/I] because that's a dangerous way to view mental issues
people don't fucking go and shoot up a school without thinking about it or telling anybody
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39433747]it's hard to look down on someone or simply label them as "selfish" when the mental anguish they felt was apparently strong enough to make them ignore their own self-preservation instinct and take their life. it takes an extreme amount of pain to seriously want to "turn off" like that.[/QUOTE]
I'm in the camp that thinks that a lot of people who commit suicide like that aren't even in a sound state of mind to begin with. I think suicides are a much more complicated issue than "being a coward."
[editline]31st January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=latin_geek;39433752]I seriously hope someone close to you talks about doing some (minor) shit and then [I]does it[/I] because that's a dangerous way to view mental issues
people don't fucking go and shoot up a school without thinking about it or telling anybody[/QUOTE]
In my limited experience, people always talk shit; "I'm gonna kill myself," "I'm gonna go kill this guy," etc. They're just talking. If the person says "I'm going to go kill myself with this method at this time," or "This person will die at that time because of this," That's when I call the cops because when they actually have a plan and tell you it they're going to do it and you're not going to be able to talk them down. This is anecdotal obviously, but that's my two cents.
[editline]31st January 2013[/editline]
(It only happened twice and one of those times was a friend telling me what happened to him.)
[QUOTE=latin_geek;39433752]I seriously hope someone close to you talks about doing some (minor) shit and then [I]does it[/I] because that's a dangerous way to view mental issues people don't fucking go and shoot up a school without thinking about it or telling anybody[/QUOTE] now who is the insane one? there is a difference between legitimately planning or feeling the need to do something and just having the thoughts creep into your head in the small hours of the night.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39433723]The act of suicide (assuming you're not suffering from an terminal/permanent illness that causes you constant pain) is a selfish and cowardly act. No matter how you do it, you will affect someone else. Everyone from your mom, to the person that has to clean up your corpse will be affected by your actions. It's a selfish thing to do.[/QUOTE]
suicide is a extremely complicated and intricate issue and i would rather not have you talking about it in this point of view because it grossly simplifies it and outright insults people
Everyone has a choice about when they want to die. If anything, its selfish for others to hold on
to someone who truly wants to die.
We all die one day, this guy didnt murder anyone so who gives you the right to call him a coward?
[QUOTE=supersnail11;39433541]No, they wouldn't. In 2010, there were [URL="http://www.afsp.org/index.cfm?page_id=04ea1254-bd31-1fa3-c549d77e6ca6aa37"]38,364 suicide deaths[/URL]. That's 105 per day. We only hear about these because they're public . . .[/QUOTE]
has nothing to do with the gun, tonnes of people commit suicide with a gun as well and are not reported on. people are reporting on it because its public
Also, yeah, in hindsight saying that probably wasn't the smartest thing to do for the sake of the thread's discussion, so sorry about that.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39433723]The act of suicide (assuming you're not suffering from an terminal/permanent illness that causes you constant pain) is a selfish and cowardly act. No matter how you do it, you will affect someone else. Everyone from your mom, to the person that has to clean up your corpse will be affected by your actions. It's a selfish thing to do.[/QUOTE]
yeah fuck people who kill themselves how dishonorable come on everyone lets run about calling dead people selfish cowards because thats totally cool to do!
suicide isn't a black and white issue its extremely complex and involves a massive range of circumstances and consequences that change on a case by case basis. insulting dead people who have committed suicide is far more cowardly than suicide itself
[QUOTE=faze;39433489]Yes they would.[/QUOTE]
Then why didn't this story from the same town get posted when it happened?
[url]http://timonium.patch.com/topics/Timonium+Suicide[/url]
[QUOTE=jeimizu;39433853]Then why didn't this story from the same town get posted when it happened?
[url]http://timonium.patch.com/topics/Timonium+Suicide[/url][/QUOTE]
because nobody heard about it? the fact that you just linked us to a news article reporting on the incident should show you that those "insignificant" cases of suicide are still reported on lol
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