[QUOTE=Kopimi;39433871]because nobody heard about it? the fact that you just linked us to a news article reporting on the incident should show you that those "insignificant" cases of suicide are still reported on lol[/QUOTE]
In the local paper, but since this one happened at a gun range it's getting national publicity, since people can tie it to the gun control debate.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39433723]The act of suicide (assuming you're not suffering from an terminal/permanent illness that causes you constant pain) is a selfish and cowardly act. No matter how you do it, you will affect someone else. Everyone from your mom, to the person that has to clean up your corpse will be affected by your actions. It's a selfish thing to do.[/QUOTE]
I think it's god damn selfish of [b]you[/b] to expect others to live out their lives for you even if they have no wish to continue living. That's bullshit.
[QUOTE=jeimizu;39434000]In the local paper, but since this one happened at a gun range it's getting national publicity, since people can tie it to the gun control debate.[/QUOTE]
or maybe because someone shooting themselves in public at a crowded gun range is more interesting and sensationalist than someone killing themselves in private at a cemetary via pills. i know you want to make it seem like the world is conspiring to take away your guns but in reality the media cares about drama and ratings. someone killing themselves via pill is a lot less interesting than someone shooting themselves at a gun range in front of other people
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;39433700]no thats just you[/QUOTE]
Everyone has idle thoughts about these sorts of subjects that they would never act on. I'll try to find a source but I can't remember what it's specifically called.
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;39434041]Everyone has idle thoughts about these sorts of subjects that they would never act on. I'll try to find a source but I can't remember what it's specifically called.[/QUOTE]
It was a joke, relax. :v:
Yeah I getchya but I was still hoping I could find this source for what I mentioned as it was a pretty interesting read.
I like how it's only taken seriously when it happens 15 minutes away from you, then you go on the internet to tell everyone for being heartless cruel beasts if they don't care or make jokes.
If I took personal notice of every fucking death in the world I'd probably add myself to that collection, there are a lot of people starving to death and getting shot in the world, just people only care when it happens in developed societies that they proclaim themselves members of.
[QUOTE=Pubichair;39433303]BAN GUNS AND RANGES AND PEOPLE
[editline]1st February 2013[/editline]
AND SUICIDE[/QUOTE]
Aren't the "ban" things bannable?
[QUOTE=Kopimi;39434016]or maybe because someone shooting themselves in public at a crowded gun range is more interesting and sensationalist than someone killing themselves in private at a cemetary via pills. i know you want to make it seem like the world is conspiring to take away your guns but in reality the media cares about drama and ratings. someone killing themselves via pill is a lot less interesting than someone shooting themselves at a gun range in front of other people[/QUOTE]
This is why I only ever watch the local news now. When suicides and killings are put on display for entertainment that's when you know shit is has gone far beyond what it should.
people kill themselves in the US more often than they're actually killed by another person, the only reason this made the news was because he was at a gun range
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;39434465]people kill themselves in the US more often than they're actually killed by another person, the only reason this made the news was because he was at a gun range[/QUOTE]
It's a bit like that DPRK official that got executed by mortar. Wouldn't have made the news if he had been executed by lethal injection or something, much more 'entertaining' that he got blown up by mortar shells. Exactly the sort of shit I'm talking about.
[QUOTE=faze;39433489]Yes they would.[/QUOTE]
Sometimes I feel like killing myself, and nobody cares about me.
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;39434529]It's a bit like that DPRK official that got executed by mortar. Wouldn't have made the news if he had been executed by lethal injection or something, much more 'entertaining' that he got blown up by mortar shells. Exactly the sort of shit I'm talking about.[/QUOTE]
to be fair, if I were being executed and got my own choice of method, I'd probably pick mortar
Watch, some football announcer is going to say, "THIS WOULDN"T HAVE HAPPENED IF GUNS DIDN'T EXIST HURR DUR"
[QUOTE=legolover122;39433502]But why do that when I can go down with a bang and be on the news?[/QUOTE]
I personally would rather kill myself with a gun than pills. Pills sounds like an uncertain and slow, painful death. You may survive a gun suicide too but it's less likely.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;39433618]At the risk of sounding like a psychopath; If I were to kill myself, I would want to go for the high score too.
[editline]31st January 2013[/editline]
This is the human experience. We rebuild, we move on, and we forget.[/QUOTE]
What is wrong with you
Sadly I don't find this surprising, only last year I heard of a cop in my town who walked into the barracks took out a gun from stores and took his own life.
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;39434010]I think it's god damn selfish of [b]you[/b] to expect others to live out their lives for you even if they have no wish to continue living. That's bullshit.[/QUOTE]
I personally think that if I ever come to such I point, it'd be best to have the fact "Yeah, you may not have a lot of happy moments, but if you die, you won't have any" pointed out to me. I've never dealt with mental problems, though, so it's like it's something I'm gonna recommend to a suicidal person.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;39433706]I meant like a Walt Disney kind of legacy.[/QUOTE]
I'd just make sure I had a massive tombstone ready before I died.
I always wonder - why don't these mass murder-suicides happen to terrorists or neo-nazis? These suicidal fuckers always pick the easiest way out and kill children or something. Wouldn't it be much cooler to have a news title dedicated in your honor say "Suicidal man ambushes and murders 12 Taliban officials before taking his own life"?
[QUOTE=Bumbanut;39436834]I always wonder - why don't these mass murder-suicides happen to terrorists or neo-nazis? These suicidal fuckers always pick the easiest way out and kill children or something. Wouldn't it be much cooler to have a news title dedicated in your honor say "Suicidal man ambushes and murders 12 Taliban officials before taking his own life"?[/QUOTE]
That would just make sense.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39433723]The act of suicide (assuming you're not suffering from an terminal/permanent illness that causes you constant pain) is a selfish and cowardly act. No matter how you do it, you will affect someone else. Everyone from your mom, to the person that has to clean up your corpse will be affected by your actions. It's a selfish thing to do.[/QUOTE]
You clearly have never suffered from any mental illness other than having an IQ of 7.
"causes you constant pain" Consider mental pain, constant feeling of indeptitude, fear of speaking, feeling unwanted, worthless, useless. Not wanting to wake up in the morning because the coming day will just make you feel worse. Not having the confidence to do anything.
Also suicide != killing others then killing yourself.
Don't forget that having access to firearms increases the likelihood of suicide from 2.2 to 9.6 depending on the access.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;39437697]Don't forget that having access to firearms increases the likelihood of suicide from 2.2 to 9.6 depending on the access.[/QUOTE]
Please cite the source of that statistic.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;39437697]Don't forget that having access to firearms increases the likelihood of suicide from 2.2 to 9.6 depending on the access.[/QUOTE]
Then they will just butcher themselves
[QUOTE=faze;39433536]Somebody died, it sucks. Shrugging it off is kinda shitty. (I'm all for self defense and gun ownership) Nut the guy was obviously hurting and had nowhere else to go. That was not the answer.[/QUOTE]
You seem to have turned your reading comprehension system off.
I'm arguing we wouldn't even know he did it if he popped pills or something. I'm arguing that the only reason the media reported it is because he used a gun and did it at a firing range. You're arguing something that's barely even tangentially related to that point and acting like it's going to change my argument.
Though, to be fair, if I don't know the deceased or the deceased's close relatives, I find it extremely hard to care anyway. Even when it is reported. Someone I don't know died somewhere I've never been is not grounds for me to feel sad or anything. I'll just shrug and carry on, I have no attachment to that person.
[QUOTE=faze;39433560]Nah just close to home I suppose, and kind of getting tired of the gruesome news every day. Something has to give.[/QUOTE]
And that's why I stopped caring about world events and people I don't know.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39433617]i think that's sorta sad that if the vast majority of us died suddenly, only a dozen or two people would actually know or care unless it was somehow noteworthy.[/QUOTE]
That's fine by me. The absolute last thing I want is a bunch of people that never knew me getting all depressed 'n shit because I'm dead.[QUOTE=yawmwen;39433659]it isn't that people move on or forget, it's that most people will never know, and most people will never care. i think it's a good motivation to get more involved in your community at the very least.[/QUOTE]
Or motivation to stop caring entirely. If I got more involved in my community I'd end up on fucking Prozac within two weeks. It's not that my community is bad, either. It really isn't. The greater Nashville area is a pretty mild chunk of real estate actually. But I just don't have the patience or the willpower to deal with people I don't know, and frankly, I don't care about their problems. I have enough of my own problems to deal with, I don't have the mental and physical resources to deal with other people's as well.
[QUOTE=TestECull;39439670]Or motivation to stop caring entirely. If I got more involved in my community I'd end up on fucking Prozac within two weeks. It's not that my community is bad, either. It really isn't. The greater Nashville area is a pretty mild chunk of real estate actually. But I just don't have the patience or the willpower to deal with people I don't know, and frankly, I don't care about their problems. I have enough of my own problems to deal with, I don't have the mental and physical resources to deal with other people's as well.[/QUOTE]
After volunteering my time for various projects for the past year, it astounds me how many people who live around me whose houses I pass every day who I never realized had such problems. When I was delivering turkey baskets for charity, it was heart wrenching to see some of the people living the way they do. If you've ever seen breaking bad, you remember the scene where Jesse goes to the crackhead's house and sees the small child there. I've been in a few houses that looked just like that if not worse, and the stench was unimaginably bad. Volunteering time is by no means an easy task, it takes a lot of effort and it's definitely not for the weak of heart.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;39439814]After volunteering my time for various projects for the past year, it astounds me how many people who live around me whose houses I pass every day who I never realized had such problems. When I was delivering turkey baskets for charity, it was heart wrenching to see some of the people living the way they do. If you've ever seen breaking bad, you remember the scene where Jesse goes to the crackhead's house and sees the small child there. I've been in a few houses that looked just like that if not worse, and the stench was unimaginably bad. Volunteering time is by no means an easy task, it takes a lot of effort and it's definitely not for the weak of heart.[/QUOTE]
.....even more reason for me [i]not[/i] to volunteer. I already don't have the patience to deal with normal people for more than 20 minutes at a time. I don't enjoy social contact and I don't have the patience to deal with annoying things. Dealing with people like that would make me go insane within a few days.
[QUOTE=faze;39437778]Please cite the source of that statistic.[/QUOTE]
You asked for the exact same statistics in that other thread, I'm not doing it again if you didn't want to verify it earlier.
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