[QUOTE=catbarf;31376162]Little danger in going 100mph on back roads (not smoothly-paved highways)? At a speed where looking back for just two seconds to check on the wife corresponds to three hundred feet of movement? Where people could be coming off of side roads and merging? Over potholes and bumps that can cause you to lose control at 50, let alone 100? Little danger? Really?[/QUOTE]
I've driven on the roads in the Winnipeg/Brandon/Portage area before and I can safely say that driving extremely fast on them is easy
They're straight lines and flat
[QUOTE=Zeke129;31376288]I've driven on the roads in the Winnipeg/Brandon/Portage area before and I can safely say that driving extremely fast on them is easy
They're straight lines and flat[/QUOTE]
People crash on straight, flat highways when speeding all the time. Not to mention having a wife going into labor might be a [i]bit[/i] distracting.
[QUOTE=Swilly;31375087]Actually, yes you do.
It is your job to uphold the law even if you don't agree with it.[/QUOTE]Whats it mean when you see a cop car dancing around traffic, then running a red light with no flashing lights on? >_> I swear, most of the cops I see respect the law just about as much as average joe.
He likely, due to the extreme speed, had to write them a ticket. Not his choice and sometimes it is a full on requirement to do so.
That being said, it'll likely be tossed given the circumstances and dismissed.
It would have been better to escort them to the hospital so they could get the help right away and then issued a citation.
My parents had to do something different when my older brother was born. They got a Police car and a Police motorcycle to escort them to the hospital.
I was listening to the radio about this discussion a while ago. His fault for choosing a different hospital, his fault for speeding to cause him to commit a felony. I see no reason why he's complaining. He could have called emergency services.
If my father DID obey the speedlimit the day I was born, both me and my mother Would've been dead.
Luckily there was no police around that day.
[QUOTE=Morcam;31375686]It sounds insane, yes, but it does make sense. Despite the fact that it is a medical emergency, and he is scared, by going at such high speeds he is absolutely endangering everyone else on the road. Emergency vehicles are driven by people who know how to handle a vehicle at that sort of speed. In the article, he says, "What if the baby had died?" To which you have to consider, "What if he had crashed?" If they had hit another vehicle at that speed, not only would he, his wife, and his baby have died, but the occupants of the other vehicle would likely have met the same fate. It sounds discompassionate on the surface, but it does make sense.
The cops are still at fault, don't get me wrong. They should have escorted him to the hospital. But that doesn't mean what they did was completely wrong and what the father did was completely right.[/QUOTE]
There is a difference between 'not escorting someone' and actually informing officers futher down the road the guy might be might be speeding. If the officer actually performed his duty, he'd either call an ambulance, or escort the couple to the nearest hospital (even if it required ordering them). Not just let them go and tell someone futher on they could easily book them with a traffic ticket.
[QUOTE=Camundongo;31378640]There is a difference between 'not escorting someone' and actually informing officers futher down the road the guy might be might be speeding. If the officer actually performed his duty, he'd either call an ambulance, or escort the couple to the nearest hospital (even if it required ordering them). Not just let them go and tell someone futher on they could easily book them with a traffic ticket.[/QUOTE]
I'm not disagreeing with that. The cop was a dick, which is why the article exists at all. The father was still going over a hundred mph, though, which was extremely dangerous both to the father and the people around him. In the attempt to save his child, however, he could have killed many other people. That might be excusable in an action movie, but not in real life.
This is kind of really 2 sided.
1) You can really endanger others whilst speeding.
2) You are trying bringing new life into world safely.
Either way I think that the police were douche bags.
My faith in humanity is no more.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;31379248]My faith in humanity is no more.[/QUOTE]
Everyone says that all the damn time because of stupid small things like this.
I'm getting tired of that.
My dad got a parking ticket when he got out of the hospital after I was born
My grandfather paid it off
[editline]27th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Morcam;31378899]I'm not disagreeing with that. The cop was a dick, which is why the article exists at all. The father was still going over a hundred mph, though, which was extremely dangerous both to the father and the people around him. In the attempt to save his child, however, he could have killed many other people. That might be excusable in an action movie, but not in real life.[/QUOTE]
In that situation, when you're the driver, I'm pretty sure you couldn't give any less of a shit about other people around you when it's your family
[QUOTE=Swilly;31373593]Justice is blind...
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Reminded me of...
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[QUOTE=gokuman4594;31378934]2) You are trying bringing new life into world safely.[/QUOTE]
More than that, even. The mother's uterus was going to rupture, which means delays could have easily killed her as well as the child.
It's still the law. By trying to assist those around you, you are putting other drivers on the road at risk as well.
And people ask why I dislike cops, yes, I know some cops come in with the idea of trying to protect the populous, but those are in the minority nowadays.
[QUOTE=wootmonster;31373888]In some countries I think there's this law that anyone can drive a car in case of an absolute emergency, even a 10 year old kid.[/QUOTE]
In Poland a 10 year old can drive a car anyway.
The man was at fault for not stopping to see if the officer was actually escorting him, how would the officer to know he was trying to help his family?
[QUOTE=W00tbeer1;31381786]It's still the law. By trying to assist those around you, you are putting other drivers on the road at risk as well.[/QUOTE]Oh, please, he has nothing else on his driving record and this was a special circumstance. Saying he "put others at risk" is kind of redundant considering that a car is nothing more than a guided missile on wheels. You put everyone around you at risk as soon as you start driving, there is a chance, no matter who you are, how fast you're going or any other silly factor, you'll lose control and kill somebody. There's that chance for every single motorized vehicle that's in motion. In plenty of circumstances that's highly unlikely, which is probably why we drive cars around and not die every time one begins to move.
That RCMP officer was clearly in the wrong because he didn't provide assistance when he could have. If you really want to splice hairs, I'm fairly certain Manitoba has a "Good Samaritan Law" which he would have most definitely violated. Plus the article clearly states the amount of traffic (exactly one measure of "not a lot" in this case) and that makes your "putting others at risk" argument an unlikely scenario. Having driven those roads myself, there's not a lot going on so I concur with the article's assessment.
[QUOTE=catbarf;31376162]Little danger in going 100mph on back roads (not smoothly-paved highways)? At a speed where looking back for just two seconds to check on the wife corresponds to three hundred feet of movement? Where people could be coming off of side roads and merging? Over potholes and bumps that can cause you to lose control at 50, let alone 100? Little danger? Really?[/QUOTE]
the faster you go over potholes the less impact they have so in actual fact he was driving safer than usual
If I was in his position I can see his reasons for it, though.
In Australia I don't think there are any official statements regarding such an issue, but apparently cops are obliged to not give tickets / arrest anyone who is driving above the speed limit if they have a passenger in need of emergency help.
[QUOTE=mac338;31373750]My dad once took a friend of mine to the hospital. Luckily in Norway, there's a speeding exception if it's a medical emergency (Hand in signed paper by the doctor and have him confirm it and you're scott free)[/QUOTE]
Does Norway have free healthcare like upsidedown land?
If so, I am going to learn your godly language and find a way to get to heaven.
See if this was IN Winnipeg or even Brandon this would never have happened. The RCMP are Pretty dickish since they train like the military. Its basically Boot camp and they are taught there is NO exception to the law. They'll nail you for anything AND everything. He'll last week I hear them on my scanner ticket a guy for not pulling far enough on the shoulder for them to respond to a call.
Thats just wrong....however I can see the cop writing a speeding ticket right now....
"Your name?Okay then...damn,pencil borke,let me get the pen i keep in my trunk surrounded by loads of crap....here it is..wait no...maybe here...
He really should've just escorted them. That way it'd have been faster and safer for both the couple and the other people driving/walking on the road. I still think they should've gotten the ticket, I just don't think it's fair that he didn't help them in what was obviously an emergency, but instead slowed them down.
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