• Google announces new $249 ARM-based Chromebook from Samsung
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Crazy prices for a useless computer with an OS you can get for free. Also ARM is the shittiest thing i have seen in my life. Good night and thanks for coffee.
[QUOTE=Alcoholocaust;38091324]Crazy prices for a useless computer with an OS you can get for free. Also ARM is the shittiest thing i have seen in my life. Good night and thanks for coffee.[/QUOTE] ARM is great for phones, but that's it
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38129006]ARM is great for phones, but that's it[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1219160&p=38090970&viewfull=1#post38090970"]May I refer to page 1, subsection 31.[/URL]
[QUOTE=Van-man;38129320][URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1219160&p=38090970&viewfull=1#post38090970"]May I refer to page 1, subsection 31.[/URL][/QUOTE] "ARM based devices are normally more power efficient ([b]and slower and have less application support[/b]) that x86 based devices. Bet that's the reason this one's using that." Added relevant information to your post.
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38129451]"ARM based devices are normally more power efficient ([b]and slower and have less application support[/b]) that x86 based devices. Bet that's the reason this one's using that." Added relevant information to your post.[/QUOTE] It's running a customized Linux version, and is meant for work [I]"in the cloud"[/I]. Ofcourse it isn't powerful, but that doesn't mean it's useless, considering the insane battery life it's sporting. You're just spewing shit because it can't run a handful of your favorite applications. ARM is also gaining traction in the server market for applications that requires many (but not very powerful) cores, and it's extreme [I]computing power to processing power ratio[/I] just makes it even more interesting.
[QUOTE=Daemon;38091143]IMO, the most impressive-looking ultrabook to hit the market (apart from Apple's wedge of cheese), is the Samsung Series 900's (2012). [img]http://static.trustedreviews.com/94%7C000022925%7Cc91e_IMG-0070.jpg[/img] I would buy if the [B]price was in proportion with the average specs.[/B][/QUOTE] it probably is, it probably has an IPS screen and an SSD For examples, Macbook Pros are literally not overpriced at all
i "might" buy this, too replace my shitty laptop.
Too expensive. I bought my netbook for the same price, and it's surprisingly quick. There's no distinct advantage to get a chromebook over a windows netbook.
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;38129836]Too expensive. I bought my netbook for the same price, and it's surprisingly quick. There's no distinct advantage to get a chromebook over a windows netbook.[/QUOTE] I think it's as much competition to tablets as it is to netbooks, but it all depends on what you're looking for - in this case, the real upsides are the low price for the (probably superior) speed and the small size (thinness and fanlessness) against x86 Windows netbooks vs. lack of Windows functionality, and the low price for the physical keyboard against Android tablets vs. lack of non-Google Android apps. Not to mention it should be possible to install other Linux distros on the thing, in the words of a Google engineer: [url]https://plus.google.com/u/0/109993695638569781190/posts/3EoeZU8QnNG[/url] And here's a guy willing to try to make that possible: [url]http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com/2012/10/chrubuntu-on-arm-based-chromebook-lets.html[/url]
I don't see this being any faster than a windows alternative. My $250 netbook has a dual core 1.2ghz Atom processor, 2 gb of ram, and 250gb of HD space. I does everything the chromebook does and probably just as fast (wasn't the Cr-48 slow as hell?). I can browse the web perfectly fine and the upside is that I can run the already existing windows software. The only thing the chromebook has going for it is the novelty. I cannot seriously see a single upside in getting this at the current price-point.
I want a laptop but I don't see myself getting one until next school year...
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;38089980][t]http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2010/12/10/sph-laptop.jpg[/t] Easily the best looking Laptop I've ever seen, I wish Samsung would actually decide on a non bulbous and bloaty aesthetic.[/QUOTE] I like the keys.
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;38130178]I don't see this being any faster than a windows alternative. My $250 netbook has a dual core 1.2ghz Atom processor, 2 gb of ram, and 250gb of HD space. I does everything the chromebook does and probably just as fast (wasn't the Cr-48 slow as hell?). I can browse the web perfectly fine and the upside is that I can run the already existing windows software. The only thing the chromebook has going for it is the novelty. I cannot seriously see a single upside in getting this at the current price-point.[/QUOTE] The OS is is pretty much made only for this device, so there's very low performance overhead. [URL="http://liliputing.com/2012/10/buy-a-chrome-os-device-get-100gb-google-drive-storage-for-2-years.html"]Also 100GB of free Google drive storage for 2 years[/URL] is also bundled with it, [URL="https://www.google.com/settings/storage/?hl=en_US"]which normally costs around 5 US Dollars a month[/URL] That's gonna cost ya 119,76 USD if you want that much storage on Google Drive without buying a ChromeOS device. So the reason you can's see any upside is because it either doesn't fit your very specific needs, or you just didn't read enough about it. [editline]22nd October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=The Baconator;38129683]Macbook Pros are literally not overpriced at all[/QUOTE] The RAM upgrade options are for the Retina models:v:
[QUOTE=Van-man;38130577]The OS is is pretty much made only for this device, so there's very low performance overhead. [URL="http://liliputing.com/2012/10/buy-a-chrome-os-device-get-100gb-google-drive-storage-for-2-years.html"]Also 100GB of free Google drive storage for 2 years[/URL] is also bundled with it, [URL="https://www.google.com/settings/storage/?hl=en_US"]which normally costs around 5 US Dollars a month[/URL] That's gonna cost ya 119,76 USD if you want that much storage on Google Drive without buying a ChromeOS device. So the reason you can's see any upside is because it either doesn't fit your very specific needs, or you just didn't read enough about it. [editline]22nd October 2012[/editline] The RAM upgrade options are for the Retina models:v:[/QUOTE] But again, wasn't the Cr-48 dreadfully slow? It also doesn't really matter how efficient the OS is, if another system is just as fast while doing the same tasks. You're right, the advantage is cloud storage, but it comes with the major disadvantage of being only accessible while online. Aside from having google drive, I literally do not see any reason why someone would purchase this over a conventional netbook. It just doesn't sound like a very savvy investment. If a netbook can surf the web just as fast and smoothly as on a chromebook, why choose the one with less functionality? Understandably, that's a similar argument people use for buying a Mac over Windows PC (I just want a system that works and does all the basic shit), but given the price point, market competition, and lack of major marketing, I can't see this selling very well.
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;38131708]But again, wasn't the Cr-48 dreadfully slow? It also doesn't really matter how efficient the OS is, if another system is just as fast while doing the same tasks. You're right, the advantage is cloud storage, but it comes with the major disadvantage of being only accessible while online. Aside from having google drive, I literally do not see any reason why someone would purchase this over a conventional netbook. It just doesn't sound like a very savvy investment. If a netbook can surf the web just as fast and smoothly as on a chromebook, why choose the one with less functionality? Understandably, that's a similar argument people use for buying a Mac over Windows PC (I just want a system that works and does all the basic shit), but given the price point, market competition, and lack of major marketing, I can't see this selling very well.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juqfToYtXZ4[/media] He boots it up at 1:20 into the video. It takes 14 seconds from power button to login screen is at least twice as fast as my $350 netbook before I installed an SSD.
Doesn't take me much longer to boot up my netbook. I'll time it next time I bring it out, but my argument isn't wholly on bootspeed. I mean speed during use. Is the Chromebook any better at browsing? How does it handle multiple tabs, videos, etc. If there's no significant advantage in browsing, why bother. [editline]21st October 2012[/editline] Actually I misread your post. Takes me way longer to boot than the chromebook, but mine's not SSD. Still, nice boot time is definitely a plus for it.
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;38131835]Doesn't take me much longer to boot up my netbook. I'll time it next time I bring it out, but my argument isn't wholly on bootspeed. I mean speed during use. Is the Chromebook any better at browsing? How does it handle multiple tabs, videos, etc. If there's no significant advantage in browsing, why bother. [editline]21st October 2012[/editline] Actually I misread your post. Takes me way longer to boot than the chromebook, but mine's not SSD. Still, nice boot time is definitely a plus for it.[/QUOTE] It looks like it has 2GB of RAM, so it should be fine with plenty of tabs especially considering it shouldn't have near the memory overhead of Windows. Complex webpages might take a couple dozen extra milliseconds to render than on a more traditional GPU, but I haven't seen any complaints so far, and Google also says that the OS has matured a bit since the Cr-48 days and been a bit more optimized, particularly for the ARM hardware, and it can manage 30fps 1080p video over HDMI so it can't be much worse than my Atom machine, which can hardly do 720p. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DckgxrbdnBY[/media]
[QUOTE=imMonkeyGOD;38090623]Sager's laptop are pretty minimalistic in design. There's an option in one of the sites to remove the logo in the back. [IMG]http://gentechpcforums.com/system-images/Sager/NP8130/Sager_NP8130_1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Sager represent! :D As my workstation for university when i can't used my desktop i have an np9130. Sager also uses Clevo's as a chassis, they're surprisingly durable.
[QUOTE=mblunk;38131929]It looks like it has 2GB of RAM, so it should be fine with plenty of tabs especially considering it shouldn't have near the memory overhead of Windows. Complex webpages might take a couple dozen extra milliseconds to render than on a more traditional GPU, but I haven't seen any complaints so far, and Google also says that the OS has matured a bit since the Cr-48 days and been a bit more optimized, particularly for the ARM hardware, and it can manage 30fps 1080p video over HDMI so it can't be much worse than my Atom machine, which can hardly do 720p. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DckgxrbdnBY[/media][/QUOTE] So it does actually sound like a solid performer then. It'll be interesting to see the adoption rate of these over conventional net books.
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