South African miners' strike turns violent, police open fire on machete-wielding crowd
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Union in-fighting really isn't going to help your cause
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;37279555]"WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO DO YOU CUNT?".
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idk if it's just me but there's just something awesome about the way kiwis say cunt
The police chief has [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19292909]announced[/url] that 34 people were killed in total. Also President Zuma is to visit the mine
[QUOTE=Jmir 54;37270908]South Africa is is basically America during the Jim Crow law days[/QUOTE]
the one reassuring part of those photos was that there were black men among the armed police responding.
This would be a bigger problem had they remained nonviolent. If they had weapons of any kind and became violent, this act by the police is justified.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;37277666]It always makes me giggle when facepunchers think US police forces are heavily militarized just because they have what basically amounts to a big steel plate on 4 wheels
South Africa police has some of the biggest fuck off armaments out of any police force in the world. Their special task groups have selection trials comparable to the SAS and Navy SEALs. It's not unknown to see task groups equipped with literally light machine guns because they are expecting to get into a legit firefight.
SA is fucking crazy.[/QUOTE]
I thought BOPE was the only police force that used LMGs
e.e
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;37285292]the one reassuring part of those photos was that there were black men among the armed police responding.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, there's still plenty of bigotry to go around over there. I used to have a friend from South Africa, his mother was a Police Officer. But since she was a white female in SA, she was constantly denied promotions, even among her obviously corrupt coworkers.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;37286737]Don't worry, there's still plenty of bigotry to go around over there. I used to have a friend from South Africa, his mother was a Police Officer. But since she was a white female in SA, she was constantly denied promotions, even among her obviously corrupt coworkers.[/QUOTE]
still better than seeing a line of white men in front of a black mob like at the SoWeTo Uprising
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;37286857]still better than seeing a line of white men in front of a black mob like at the SoWeTo Uprising[/QUOTE]
If you speak to anyone who has become an expat from SA in the past 10-20 years, it's pretty much reverse apartheid in SA now.
Black Africans control much of the country and there is a huge amount of descrimination against white Africans.
Obviously it's not anywhere near as horrifically bad as it was for the blacks during apartheid, but some of the stories my Afrikaans friends have relayed are pretty scary.
It's funny, some parts of Africa are really progressive despite some relatively shit conditions. Other parts seem to revel in their chaos despite having huge amounts of natural resources to exploit.
Well, this is the same crowd of people who days before murdered and completely dismembered two police officers, and burned two security guards to death. Oh, and murdered a couple other bystanders. What validity these striking miners might have had with the low wages and shitty conditions got thrown right out the window by doing that. I'm not saying they got what the deserved, because no one has ever deserved to be shot, but I am saying that, knowing what this group of people prevously had done to police, the use of force was justified.
And yes. The same group of people. Very same. You can see in one of the videos a police officer retrieving a pistol captured from one of the two officers they killed.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;37292293]If you speak to anyone who has become an expat from SA in the past 10-20 years, it's pretty much reverse apartheid in SA now.
Black Africans control much of the country and there is a huge amount of descrimination against white Africans.
Obviously it's not anywhere near as horrifically bad as it was for the blacks during apartheid, but some of the stories my Afrikaans friends have relayed are pretty scary.
It's funny, some parts of Africa are really progressive despite some relatively shit conditions. Other parts seem to revel in their chaos despite having huge amounts of natural resources to exploit.[/QUOTE]
And god help you if your of Boer descent.
[QUOTE=viperfan7;37270476]well maybe if they paid the workers fairly this wouldn't happen[/QUOTE]
Maybe, just maybe, if they hadn't charged the armed fucking police with weapons this wouldn't have happened. The police don't pay their wages.
Judging from the Liveleak video the police did a great job. That they had the balls to cease fire at all is pretty impressive.
Don't know what to think about this.
It's horrible as it is, but I can't help but feel the police were perhaps justified, at least looking at it from their perspective
I mean, they're getting rushed by a crowd with weapons, judging by the video they weren't sure how many people were in the crowd.
Why the hell did they rush a police line, what a waste of life.
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