• Battlefield 3 Exclusive DLC Weapons for Select Pre-orders Strike a Nerve
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[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;30431135]Actually, you're wrong there. They didn't have exclusives in BC2, they had [b]early[/b] unlocks, weapons that were already in the game got unlocked early. The only partially exclusive thing was the M1 garand, and it really isn't that much of a game changer, it's the same as another gun in the game with 2 less rounds in it's clip, making it a worse weapon to some.[/QUOTE] And. That's exactly what's going on here. And the M1 Garand is exactly what I'm talking about. New weapon, unlike any other, balanced to not give advantage. [editline]13th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Leaf Runner;30429736]No shit they're going to try and balance it to be at an equal level of other weapons, but it's still going to be a unique playing style that nobody else has access to, which is therefore a advantage.[/QUOTE] How does slight difference in stats alter the playing style at all? Sniper versus machine gun alters the play style. Machine gun versus different machine gun doesn't really alter jack shit. If it has more accuracy there is doomed to be some other weapon that is in the same area on the accuracy as well, the weapon will not be so unique that only that one is fit for that kind of tactic, it's just another option.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;30431984]SP games that get those DLC weapons are generally way easier because of those weapons. I know metro 2033 was much easier for the people that pre-ordered at gamestop and got a belt fed full auto-shotgun. So it's still BS.[/QUOTE] Didn't they release that weapon in a later patch though?
[QUOTE=dgg;30432101]And. That's exactly what's going on here. And the M1 Garand is exactly what I'm talking about. New weapon, unlike any other, balanced to not give advantage. [/QUOTE] With the Garand it's not that big a deal, like at all. It's easy as hell to get, and you can get it for free. All you need to do is sign up for Battlefield play4free and BF heroes, and it will be unlocked for you. When you have weapons that can't be acquired any other way then pre-ordering at 4 different retailers just so you can get part of the game that shouldn't have been divided out as bonuses to retailers. [editline]13th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=5killer;30432440]Didn't they release that weapon in a later patch though?[/QUOTE] It was, but for console buyers it was branded as DLC and you had to pay for it, PC guys got it for free.
Why don't they offer free DLC for retail purchasers instead?
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;30432451]With the Garand it's not that big a deal, like at all. It's easy as hell to get, and you can get it for free. All you need to do is sign up for Battlefield play4free and BF heroes, and it will be unlocked for you. When you have weapons that can't be acquired any other way then pre-ordering at 4 different retailers just so you can get part of the game that shouldn't have been divided out as bonuses to retailers.[/QUOTE] What makes you think it will never be sold as a DLC later on? Same way GTA IV was exclusive to the consoles. Why would they want to lose potential sales? They wouldn't. And even if they did, what is the problem? The weapons will give no advantages, just more choices. Also look up at Wiggles' post concerning "4 different retailers".
[QUOTE=dgg;30432539]What makes you think it will never be sold as a DLC later on? Same way GTA IV was exclusive to the consoles. Why would they want to lose potential sales? They wouldn't. And even if they did, what is the problem? The weapons will give no advantages, just more choices. Also look up at Wiggles' post concerning "4 different retailers".[/QUOTE] Because, DLC for a game that hasn't even come out yet is fucking bull shit. I shouldn't have to buy weapons later that should have been included in the first place. And concerning the different retailers, theres still a ways till release, and EA being the money whore it is, will more then likely divide out different packs to different retailers.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;30428131] For me, the line gets crossed at subscription-based gaming and stupid, 15$ DLC: Call of Duty Elite for example has put the final nail in the coffin that is Call of Duty (for me, at least). [/QUOTE] Call of Duty Elite is an extra service you don't even need to play Call of duty. It isn't subscription based. You pay a few extra dollars and you get a lot of extra features features. Most of the interesting features are already free in CoD:E. And for DLC, you can still buy a the stand alone.
The game is half a year away and they're already pumping in Day -180 DLC. If you make content for a game before the game is finished, sell the shit along with the game This Day 1 DLC is ridiculous, if people quit buying it they'll quit doing it and include the lousy shit on the gold master discs. Quite Pathetic how they make you go through extra hoops before the game is out, and pay extra after the game is out, to play Karkand. This is a sequel to the game where Karkand was the most played map for fucks sake [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/SaborWolf/emailtoea.jpg[/img] A letter I sent to the top brass at EA, which won't be read, by anyone. maybe if thousands of us send something similar
[QUOTE=A big fat ass;30419915]No it's not. That's one of the reasons why you would pre-order. Everybody should, anyways. It's fucking BF3.[/QUOTE] You would be crying foul if this was cod
[QUOTE=The golden;30433062]Why don't they just include all the content made for the game in the box when it is sold. Easy, done, simple.[/QUOTE] with most games, they don't release it because it hasn't been made yet, and they build it around reactions to the game. This is shit that already exists, is made, and doesn't need to be DLC. EA is just corporatism in the arts which never works out. [editline]13th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=rampageturke 2;30433110]You would be crying foul if this was cod[/QUOTE] No one mentioned Call of Duty.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;30432760]Because, DLC for a game that hasn't even come out yet is fucking bull shit. I shouldn't have to buy weapons later that should have been included in the first place. And concerning the different retailers, theres still a ways till release, and EA being the money whore it is, will more then likely divide out different packs to different retailers.[/QUOTE] That's a completely different thing that we all have agreed to. I don't think so, but the possibility is there.
I don't get why people are complaining about this, steam do it on like every pre-order yet people still regard valve as saints.
Valve also constantly give us shit for 20 to 80% off [editline]13th June 2011[/editline] There's a $40 game for $10 on Steam right now!
[QUOTE=TheTalon;30433569]Valve also constantly give us shit for 20 to 80% off [editline]13th June 2011[/editline] There's a $40 game for $10 on Steam right now![/QUOTE] Yeah, it's a game that should never have been $40 in the first place: [url]http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/shadow-harvest-phantom-ops[/url]
[QUOTE=Gareth;30433269]I don't get why people are complaining about this, steam do it on like every pre-order yet people still regard valve as saints.[/QUOTE] This site regards valve as saints, no matter how much dumb shit they do, and after Orange Box they've done a looootttt
im confused, where do i have to buy this game in america to get back to karkand?
If they start doing this to the best guns in the game I'm not going to buy it.
[QUOTE=meppers;30437603]im confused, where do i have to buy this game in america to get back to karkand?[/QUOTE] Anywhere. [QUOTE=Wiggles;30429698][url]http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/06/13/physical-warfare-pack-and-back-to-karkand-questions-answered.aspx[/url] [quote] [B]Q: Is the Physical Warfare Pack available in all regions, or just in the UK?[/B] A: It will be available worldwide at select retailers. It was first announced in the UK. Exact details for other countries and retailers will be announced at a later date. [B]Q: Will Physical Warfare Pack imbalance the game?[/B] A: The three exclusive items in the Physical Warfare Pack were specifically chosen not to be overpowered or imbalance or break the game in any way. [B]Q: Why do I want the Physical Warfare Pack?[/B] A: Owning these items will give you a more varied arsenal, but it will not give you a significant advantage on the battlefield. [B]Q: Is the Back to Karkand expansion pack exclusive to pre-orders?[/B] A: No. You can also buy it separately if you do not pre-order Battlefield 3. Back to Karkand will be available the exact same date after the launch of Battlefield 3 no matter if you pre-ordered or buy it separately. [B]Q: When will the Back to Karkand expansion pack be released?[/B] A: We have not yet announced the Back to Karkand expansion pack release date. [B]Q: How much does the Back to Karkand Expansion pack cost?[/B] A: We have not yet announced a price. However, it will be included in the Limited Edition at no extra charge. [B]Q: Do I have to choose between Back to Karkand and the Physical Warfare Pack as my pre-order bonus?[/B] A: No. There is no way you can pre-order Battlefield 3: Limited Edition and not end up with the Back to Karkand expansion pack at no extra charge. On top of this, select retailers all over the world will carry the Physical Warfare Pack. Exact details for other countries and retailers will be announced at a later date. [B]Q: Why do you offer pre-order bonus items?[/B] A: Because we believe in rewarding our core fanbase with special offers -- such as giving them the Back to Karkand expansion pack at no extra charge.[/quote][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;30436290]This site regards valve as saints, no matter how much dumb shit they do, and after Orange Box they've done a looootttt[/QUOTE] They've never charged extra for something that wasn't a stupid cosmetic thing.
They're a business, not your buddy. And i'm sure i'll get replied to with a "But this is hurting their sales" comment.. :buddy:
[QUOTE=Splarg!;30438514]They've never charged extra for something that wasn't a stupid cosmetic thing.[/QUOTE] The more time passes the more ridiculous qualifying statements you're going to have to add onto that sentence, and between OB and Portal 2 they had absolutely nothing worthwhile, and they most likely won't have anything again until ep3.
[QUOTE=Gareth;30433269]I don't get why people are complaining about this, steam do it on like every pre-order yet people still regard valve as saints.[/QUOTE] what are you talking about? if you're talking about tf2 items, that's completely and utterly different.
[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;30439477]what are you talking about? if you're talking about tf2 items, that's completely and utterly different.[/QUOTE] he was talking about a skin for L4d2 if you pre-ordered at Gamestop, it was a skin for the cricket bat.
Well although I dis-like this plan, I plan on pre-ordering regardless, I have from the moment it was announced.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;30438888]The more time passes the more ridiculous qualifying statements you're going to have to add onto that sentence, and between OB and Portal 2 they had absolutely nothing worthwhile, and they most likely won't have anything again until ep3.[/QUOTE] But despite all of the in-game store crap and promo items and the updates becoming more and more like expansion packs, they HAVEN'T started charging for anything besides worthless extras. Despite introducing microtransactions for Valve, TF2 has more than doubled in terms of free content anyway. And I wasn't aware that the general consensus on L4D is that it isn't worth mentioning.
I hate how greedy these big game companies are becoming. New PC games used to be about $40 upon release, and there wasn't any of this pre-order or dlc bullshit. Now, games are being sold at $60 upon release, plus $10-$20 dlcs only a few months after release. Also, the lengths of these games are also getting shorter compared to older games, with shorter development cycles (new game every year). We are paying more and more for less, and as far as I can tell, the trend's not going to stop.
[QUOTE=toastedspyro;30441329]I hate how greedy these big game companies are becoming. New PC games used to be about $40 upon release, and there wasn't any of this pre-order or dlc bullshit. Now, games are being sold at $60 upon release, plus $10-$20 dlcs only a few months after release. Also, the lengths of these games are also getting shorter compared to older games, with shorter development cycles (new game every year). We are paying more and more for less, and as far as I can tell, the trend's not going to stop.[/QUOTE] You do know that 40$ 10 years ago isn't the same value as 40$ today? However, yes, they are simplifying their games too much and take every opportunity to cash in money on DLC which mostly consists of holding back as much content as possible and charging relatively insane prices for them compared to what you get. Shorter development is however something of a blur. Because we have far more technology these days with way simpler ways to do something. You can for example scan a whole person to get their texture instead of making it through painting or stitching together a bunch of photos. So basically we can make games faster because we have made many tools allowing us to do so without ruining the production quality.
You guys all cry about EA and Activision having shitty practices that aren't good for the consumer. You organize boycotts sometimes. And then on launch day, you all buy the damn game and cry about how it sucks. You don't like EA? Don't buy their games. It's that simple.
I'm honestly more annoyed about the Back to Karkand DLC. I pre-ordered the game via D2D during one of their sales so I could get 25% off the $60 asking price. I contacted the support and they tell me it isn't the limited edition so I won't get the DLC. I'm thinking now I'll have to buy the Karkand DLC separately. I just hope it's not over $15 or I really fucked myself.
[quote][b]I would like to start by clarifying that the Physical Warfare Pack is a time-based exclusive. If you do not pre-order Battlefield 3 at a retailer carrying the Physical Warfare Pack, don’t worry. We will unlock the contents of the Physical Warfare Pack for free to all Battlefield 3 players later this year. [/b][/quote][url]http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/06/16/physical-warfare-pack-available-to-all-battlefield-3-players.aspx##[/url] :toot:
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