Anti-drug advertisements usually end up making more kids do more drugs - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Stormcharger;40299368]I remember when I was 12 after a drugs education class I came home telling my mum when I was older I was going to take acid and lock myself in my room so I wouldn't jump off buildings because the idea of hallucinating sounded like the coolest shit ever to me :v: I did end up doing it in later life but not in a locked room.[/QUOTE] Ha, I had an identical plan but with pot. And when I did it all I did was sit on the couch and watch LOST.

Maybe we should stop making anti-drug campaigns and make more about ANTI-BULLYING campaign. If kids are aware of an existence of drugs and it's effects, they will be tempted. It's the opposite of what they are suppose to do.

i always think back to how perplexing elementary health class lessons on psychedelics were. all they really said about shrooms and acid was that they gave you chills, made you sweat, and made you hallucinate (which wasn't part of my vocabulary at the time). i remember hearing this, and getting freaked out because my mother would get chills all the time, and i thought she was taking shrooms all the time.

Showing kids anti-drug ads is asking for them to try it. It's a worthy cause with good intend, but not fully thought out. It's like a boy reaching puberty age seeing an advert for bra at Victoria's Secret. He is going to go home and on Google Images type in "boob." It's the beautiful circle of life. All of that being said, I love drugs. I try to be smart about usage, and I won't try anything on the common black-list. But many drugs that are viewed in bad light are actually not that bad for you. Just another way for the man to bring you down!

Anti drug ads were a laugh at school. By the time they started showing them to us, about grade 10 or so, there was nothing about what they showed us and told us that fit with anything that most people knew about drug use, like smoking pot or even doing e or what not. Hell, my town has a serious drug problem and many people are into some pretty heavy drugs pretty hard in high school. When they came to tell us things about what we were already doing, we could laugh them out of the room practically because it was clear they were lying about some things and had a very hard agenda, and a serious portion of kids really didn't give a shit either way. I really wish they'd spend the time they try to make kids stop doing drugs and what not on spending the time on educating the kids. Two hour long seminars did nothing but make us groan because we'd sit on uncomfortable bleachers. I'd rather have been in class. I don't think I met anyone who was affected by those things, and I know it didn't stop or slow drug use in my particular school. [QUOTE=Stormcharger;40299368]I remember when I was 12 after a drugs education class I came home telling my mum when I was older I was going to take acid and lock myself in my room so I wouldn't jump off buildings because the idea of hallucinating sounded like the coolest shit ever to me :v: I did end up doing it in later life but not in a locked room.[/QUOTE] I dropped it in morning history class once. That's almost like what you're talking about.

The anti drug campaigner who came to our school in the UK was going on about how bad ecstasy was, and said something like "24 people a year die from taking ecstasy". I remember thinking "well... thats not very much really is it...." and then she continued to describe the effects and it all sounded pretty fucking good. Why wouldnt I want to try a drug that makes you happy, talkative and horny.

Exactly. More people die from horseriding - check out Equasy by David Nutt ([URL]http://www.encod.org/info/EQUASY-A-HARMFUL-ADDICTION.html[/URL]) for some perspective comparing horseriding with the harms of drugs. [quote]The dangers of equasy were revealed to me as a result of a recent clinical referral of a woman in her early 30’s who had suffered permanent brain damage as a result of equasy-induced brain damage. She had undergone severe personality change that made her more irritable and impulsive, with anxiety and loss of the ability to experience pleasure. There was also a degree of hypofrontality and behavioural disinhibition that had lead to many bad decisions in relationships with poor choice of partners and an unwanted pregnancy. She is unable to work and is unlikely ever to do so again, so the social costs of her brain damage are also very high. So what was her addiction – what is equasy? It is an addiction that produces the release of adrenaline and endorphins and which is used by many millions of people in the UK including children and young people. The harmful consequences are well established – about 10 people a year die of it and many more suffer permanent neurological damage as had my patient. It has been estimated that there is a serious adverse event every 350 exposures and these are unpredictable, though more likely in experienced users who take more risks with equasy. It is also associated with over 100 road traffic accidents per year – often with deaths. Equasy leads to gatherings of users that often are associated with these groups engaging in violent conduct. Dependence, as defined by the need to continue to use, has been accepted by the courts in divorce settlements. Based on these harms, it seems likely that the ACMD would recommend control under the MDAct perhaps as a class A drug given it appears more harmful than ecstasy (See Table 1). Have you worked out what equasy is yet? It stands for Equine Addiction Syndrome, a condition characterised by gaining pleasure from horses and being prepared to countenance the consequences especially the harms from falling off/under the horse. I suspect most people will be surprised that riding is such a dangerous activity. The data are quite startling – people die and are permanently damaged from falling – with neck and spine fracture leading to permanent spinal injury (Silver and Parry, 1991; Silver 2002). Head injury is four times more common though often less obvious and is the usual cause of death. ................. So why are harmful sporting activities allowed, whereas relatively less harmful drugs are not? I believe this reflects a societal approach which does not adequately balance the relative risks of drugs against their harms. It is also a failure to understand the motivations of, particularly younger people, who take drugs and their assessment of the perceived risks compared with other activities. The general public, especially the younger generation, are disillusioned with the lack of balanced political debate about drugs. This lack of rational debate can undermine the trust in government in relation to drug misuse and thereby undermining the government’s message in public information campaigns. [/quote]

When they explained drugs at my school several years ago they were all talking like bizarre dreams and that everything turns into a fantasy. Really the only thing it did was made you curious :v:

Another thing on this topic, is the target age. I remember in [b]Grade 5[/b] having the DARE program (anti-drug program in schools.) GRADE 5! Who in their right mind decided that kids that young need to even hear about this? Adults are at some fault for the failures of this generation.

Want to keep kids off drugs? It's simple. Show them TRAINSPOTTING, and then turn it off when the dead baby looks at Ewan MacGregor.

I don't see how Trainspotting might put someone off drugs. It puts me off misusing them but not using them full stop.

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;40300721]I don't see how Trainspotting might put someone off drugs. It puts me off misusing them but not using them full stop.[/QUOTE] If anyone is dumb enough to do heroin, then they deserve the shitty life style that comes with it. One of my mates in town thinks he only uses it as "recreational'' drug. No mate, you are addicted and lying to yourself and everyone around you, I tell him!

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;40300721]I don't see how Trainspotting might put someone off drugs. It puts me off misusing them but not using them full stop.[/QUOTE] I dunno it definitely put me off taking heroin ever.

[QUOTE=Ninja Pirate;40300803]If anyone is dumb enough to do heroin, then they deserve the shitty life style that comes with it. One of my mates in town thinks he only uses it as "recreational'' drug. No mate, you are addicted and lying to yourself and everyone around you, I tell him![/QUOTE] It is possible to use heroin without significant detriment to your lifestyle if your product is clean and your dosage is correct and you are able to obtain it at reasonable cost even if you get addicted to it. Prohibition makes it difficult to fulfill these criteria and I think it's fucking disgusting that you think heroin users deserve what they get. Addiction isn't a problem if it can be maintained with clean product (at prices not causing immediate financial ruin) and correctly measured dosages allowing for tolerance. It is possible to use heroin occasionally without developing addiction too and despite the idea being unpopular the majority of heroin users are not addicts. You hear about the addicts and problem users who are negatively affected by prohibition the most and that is why it seems more are addicted or using incorrectly - the users without problems don't get media attention.

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;40300830]It is possible to use heroin without significant detriment to your lifestyle if your product is clean and your dosage is correct and you are able to obtain it at reasonable cost.[/QUOTE] -Said everyone on Heroin

[QUOTE=Ninja Pirate;40300834]-Said everyone on Heroin[/QUOTE] Not really, if you're smart you can use it on a rare occasion and not build a tolerance or addiction.

Okay, what the fuck. I just watched a bunch of these Above the Influence commercials, and if they didn't specifically tell you not to do drugs at the end, you'd literally think they were pro-drug commercials. In one of them, these guys are smoking weed on a couch and talk about how no one dies from it and how doing pretty much anything else in the outside world is much more dangerous, and then he ends it with "I'll take my chances". What, is smoking weed [B]too safe[/B] for teenagers now? In another one this guy is parkouring, doing flips and shit off buildings and you can see these people with bottles in paper bags safely on the ground. The guy easily could have died, and we're supposed to interpret [B]him[/B] as being an inspiration? I seriously don't get what they're going for.

[QUOTE=Ninja Pirate;40300803]If anyone is dumb enough to do heroin, then they deserve the shitty life style that comes with it. One of my mates in town thinks he only uses it as "recreational'' drug. No mate, you are addicted and lying to yourself and everyone around you, I tell him![/QUOTE] by this logic, everyone who drinks for recreational is addicted? who are you to tell someone that they're addicted to something? have you had firsthand experience? addiction isn't addiction, at least in my opinion, until you need the drug to function normally.

Anyone ever seen Requiem for a Dream? That whole movie was a million times more effective in teaching the dangers of hard drugs than DARE ever was. I also have a DARE shirt, I wear it when I smoke pot sometimes

[QUOTE=Klammyxxl;40301617]by this logic, everyone who drinks for recreational is addicted? who are you to tell someone that they're addicted to something? have you had firsthand experience? addiction isn't addiction, at least in my opinion, until you need the drug to function normally.[/QUOTE] I have yet to meet anyone who isn't addicted and hasn't ruined their life on the stuff. Sorry I hit a sensitive spot with the "casual" users of the stuff, hahaha. Enjoy it if that's what makes you happy. I've just seen too many people let it fuck their lives over, and more importantly the lives of the people around them.

They fucked their own lives over.

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;40301689]They fucked their own lives over.[/QUOTE] Never said they didn't. No one's opinion is going to change about the stuff, so we are just posting in circles. Do as you desire.

[QUOTE=TehWhale;40294379]What do chemicals have to do with it? There can be a million fucking chemicals in anything, doesn't necessarily mean it's harmful.[/QUOTE] Many chemicals that people put into themselves however are very fucking harmful.

[QUOTE=Klammyxxl;40301617]by this logic, everyone who drinks for recreational is addicted? who are you to tell someone that they're addicted to something? have you had firsthand experience? addiction isn't addiction, at least in my opinion, until you need the drug to function normally.[/QUOTE] I thought that too, and I was addicted to coke for a brief time. You tell yourself you're not addicted because you use it recreationally, when in reality, that is just an easier way to say you use it every weekend. You can definitely be addicted and not need the drug to function normally. Cravings, especially for coke, were so intense that you could appear fine on the outside, but you're dying on the inside.

I watched 'Christian F.' and 'Trainspotting' when I was 13 or around that age at least, that left quite the impression. Shit was really disturbing, at least Trainspotting was funny, Christiane F is disturbing the whole way through.

I made it to 18 without ever smoking a cigarette, a year later I'm in school and pretty stressed, started smoking. Both of my parents smoke as well, so I guess it was more or less a matter of time, but cigarettes can be worse for you than a handfull of drugs, which sucks. :( Though elementaries and junior highs can do a lot to prove that smoking is bad for you and make it look scary in the process which is why i think i made it so long, but the worst is their alcohol abuse shit, like a staged car crash with bodies lying on the hood and ketchup sprayed all over the place. Fuck that!

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;40300641]Exactly. More people die from horseriding - check out Equasy by David Nutt ([URL]http://www.encod.org/info/EQUASY-A-HARMFUL-ADDICTION.html[/URL]) for some perspective comparing horseriding with the harms of drugs.[/QUOTE] More people die from eating too so maybe there's more to it than comparing numbers.

didn't know about drugs until i saw ads for it in nintendo power

[QUOTE=its shortie;40292152]This one always made me want to smoke pot. [video=youtube;jgJdVEoVbgg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgJdVEoVbgg[/video][/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNTUlsOYuPU[/media]

[QUOTE=Ninja Pirate;40301666]I have yet to meet anyone who isn't addicted and hasn't ruined their life on the stuff. Sorry I hit a sensitive spot with the "casual" users of the stuff, hahaha. Enjoy it if that's what makes you happy. I've just seen too many people let it fuck their lives over, and more importantly the lives of the people around them.[/QUOTE] You sound like you're making this up, just fyi.