For one thing, food is the thing you absolutely do not fuck with trying to regulate. If you mess it up enough then food shortages aren't exactly fun. Banning free refills won't do this, but I don't like the precedent this is setting.
But also, it's annoying that they think they can tell people what life choices are good to make or not. There doesn't exist any sort of class of elite humans who know what's best for everyone else, neither I nor anyone else should have any say in that. Sure today they might be making decisions you support, but what if they target something like excessive video game use in the name of getting people healthier?
This is stupid, IMO.
I see WHY they're doing it, but come on. You're going to go Okay well some people are shit at self responsibility so we're going to punish everyone in order to babysit them.
The majority of people who are obese are obese because of themselves and their choices. And the majority of people who are in shape are in shape because of their choices. There's no epidemic of people forcing free-refills on people and causing obesity
I don't see how this has any practical effect, I mean yeah they're loaded with sugar but typically you find these in fast food restaurants where you're normally going to be stuffing your face with unhealthy food anyway, also I don't think I've ever been in a place outside of America that offers free refills.
Yay, nanny government bullshit.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;51737673]There's no epidemic of people forcing free-refills on people and causing obesity[/QUOTE]
...at least not in France
I never ever saw a refill machine in France, they're always behind the counter. I don't really get why banning it is a thing.
It's funny how some posters are going on about "are freedoms" when the current president of the US of A seems to be putting Freedom of the Press into his crosshairs.
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There's also a big culture difference here. IIRC correctly there is a much bigger focus on how to eat and live right in schools. That's a part of the reason why they have a hour long lunch period.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51737714]It's funny how some posters are going on about "are freedoms" when the current president of the US of A seems to be putting Freedom of the Press into his crosshairs.
[editline]27th January 2017[/editline]
There's also a big culture difference here. IIRC correctly there is a much bigger focus on how to eat and live right in schools. That's a part of the reason why they have a hour long lunch period.[/QUOTE]
How is that even slightly relevant?
[QUOTE=bitches;51737407]if someone wants to hurt themselves with poor dietary choices, why stop them?
what's next, a limit on sizes of ice-cream containers? rationing Nutty Bar purchases?
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a ban on refilling your drink as you go out the door isn't going to replace proper parenting[/QUOTE]
Because we have to pay for it eventually, when there's no sense in it happening because it could easily be prevented in the first place.
But unfortunately, there's no shortage of people in this world who are incapable of taking care of themselves and behaving like rational adults should. So consequently, the nanny state becomes a natural development of that.
Proper parenting isn't just going to appear no matter what you do. Even the people who keep yelling about "well education will solve it" don't seem to understand that that's easier said than done, and you've still got the very simple issue of some people refusing to learn regardless of what you do to them.
Start inconveniencing them with additional charges so it financially affects them, make it harder for them to get whatever it is they think they want, etc. It does help cut down on the problem. Money is a useful way to manipulate people's habits, whether you're rewarding them with it or figuring out ways you can take it away from them as a punishment.
All the Americans complaining about free refills in the thread is pretty comedic.
Sugar has a pretty heavy effect on the human body and soda is pretty smack-filled with that. I'd imagine this would help somewhat, since most restaurants gives a generous amount in one glass. At least make water refills unlimited though.
Or just remove any drinks that have sugar in them. Have all the diet pepsi you can drink. Which probably won't be much.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;51737782]Or just remove any drinks that have sugar in them. Have all the diet pepsi you can drink. Which probably won't be much.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/06/diet-drinks-non-sugar-ways-not-to-lose-weight-pound-shedding-myths[/url]
[QUOTE=zakedodead;51737758]How is that even slightly relevant?[/QUOTE]
I guess it's not? does everything need to be immediately relevant
This is how Le Pen wins by a landslide.
Her alongside the ghost of Charles de Gaulle will MFGA.
[QUOTE=sYnced;51737412]if france can do it, USA can do it[/QUOTE]
Fuck off
I will secede
As someone who only ever gets one fill of drinks from soda fountains anyways...
Why the fuck does the law have to consistently step in in the place of parents being fucking competent parents?
[QUOTE=bitches;51737407]if someone wants to hurt themselves with poor dietary choices, why stop them?
what's next, a limit on sizes of ice-cream containers? rationing Nutty Bar purchases?
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a ban on refilling your drink as you go out the door isn't going to replace proper parenting[/QUOTE]
because rest of the society needs to carry heavy burden
[QUOTE=Zergeant;51737780]All the Americans complaining about free refills in the thread is pretty comedic.
Sugar has a pretty heavy effect on the human body and soda is pretty smack-filled with that. I'd imagine this would help somewhat, since most restaurants gives a generous amount in one glass. At least make water refills unlimited though.[/QUOTE]
This.
Soda is basically just liquid candy. But they don't call it that of course, but that's because it would sound disgusting then. I mean, it's fine if people drink a soda every now and again. It's fine if people eat candy and junk food every now and again. The problem is that there's a bunch of people here in the West who apparently don't know the meaning of the term "moderation" and who don't take good care of themselves and their health. Especially here in the United States.
[url=http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/07/23/425635400/even-if-youre-lean-1-soda-per-day-ups-your-risk-of-diabetes]Even drinking a soda a day-- which might seem harmless-- significantly increases your risk of developing Type 2 Diabetes[/url], obesity and other health complications aside.
so offer 10,000 refills per drink purchase
problem solved
[QUOTE=T553412;51737586]Until today I had no idea that unlimited soda refills actually existed, and were not some trick comedians pulled off to take shots at the americans
They sound AWESOME (The machines, this law can go to Hell)[/QUOTE]
It's difficult to explain the sheer amount of food you can get here. The portion sizes in the US are enormous. Free refills on soda are the least of it.
We have good food too, but nobody does huge quantities of cheap food like the US.
A sugar tax would be much more effective.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;51737861]This is how Le Pen wins by a landslide.
Her alongside the ghost of Charles de Gaulle will MFGA.[/QUOTE]
Then USA, UK, and France can make an alliance of people who don't want to care about the world. The unlikeliest of allies.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51738066]A sugar tax would be much more effective.[/QUOTE]
Just get rid of corn subsidies.
Actually, if you didn't want to completely fuck everything up, you'd fade them out over a decade, but regardless, we are effectively subsidizing sugar.
Those monsters can't do this!
I normally drink half my drink (depending on size) and I just refill it for the ride home. I don't know anyone that actually drinks cup after cup.
[QUOTE=Levelog;51738263]Then USA, UK, and France can make an alliance of people who don't want to care about the world. The unlikeliest of allies.[/QUOTE]
fuck the world honestly, if the U.S. decides to focus on fixing its own problems for a few years someone will step in and pick up the slack.
and if they don't then fuck it, the world needs to rely less on the United States just as much as the United States needs to stop pretending they patrol the world
The thing with free refills is MIX THEM ALL
[QUOTE=LittleBabyman;51738333]The thing with free refills is MIX THEM ALL[/QUOTE]
There's a restaurant near me that has decent juices in their fountain machines.
Let me tell you from personal experience that orange juice and coke do not go together. Adding chocolate milk to the mix doesn't help the situation at all.
[QUOTE=Levelog;51738263]Then USA, UK, and France can make an alliance of people who don't want to care about the world. The unlikeliest of allies.[/QUOTE]
The Fuck You Got Mine Triple Entente
[QUOTE=bitches;51737407]if someone wants to hurt themselves with poor dietary choices, why stop them?
what's next, a limit on sizes of ice-cream containers? rationing Nutty Bar purchases?
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a ban on refilling your drink as you go out the door isn't going to replace proper parenting[/QUOTE]
they're not only hurting themselves
it's france, they have universal healthcare.
people like that burden the health system when they roll their fat diabetic ass into the emergency ward to get their legs chopped off
it's in the government's interest to stop that from happening
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