• Ukraine hits the polls
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My mom has that hair :aaaaa:
[QUOTE=Wakka;20077146] [IMG]http://www.petergreenberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/yulia-tymoshenko.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE] What kind of hairdo is that?
[QUOTE=binkow;20093963]What kind of hairdo is that?[/QUOTE] Peasant cut, are you late?
Who doesn't hit the Pols?
Russia should just got off gas flow to that country and let it fall apart into a aids cesspool.
[QUOTE=Meknes;20094670]Russia should just got off gas flow to that country and let it fall apart into a aids cesspool.[/QUOTE] Actually, the last time Russia did that it created a political crisis which is carrying over into this one, alongside the divisions the Orange parties had with the Georgian invasion. This is Ukraine's choices, and it's not much. They have the corrupt Yanukovych or Tymoshenko whose Orange Revolution had achieved virtually nothing in their campaign. Mr. Yushchenko, the current president, didn't get many votes. A sad end to a politician who came in after overcoming the corruption and suspected assassination. Mr. Yushchenko also had a much more hard-line stance against Russia, where as his associate Tymoshenko held a more moderate stance in regards to Ukraine's relations between the west and Russia. Yanukovych is more pro-Russia.
[QUOTE=MercZ;20094673]Actually, the last time Russia did that it created a political crisis which is carrying over into this one, alongside the divisions the Orange parties had with the Georgian invasion. This is Ukraine's choices, and it's not much. They have the corrupt Yanukovych or Tymoshenko whose Orange Revolution had achieved virtually nothing in their campaign. Mr. Yushchenko, the current president, didn't get many votes. A sad end to a politician who came in after overcoming the corruption and suspected assassination. Mr. Yushchenko also had a much more hard-line stance against Russia, where as his associate Tymoshenko held a more moderate stance in regards to Ukraine's relations between the west and Russia. Yanukovych is more pro-Russia.[/QUOTE] Ya I know Orange revolution was just tossing out a Soviet dictatorship and replacing it with a Pro west one like Georgia. Thought Ukraine is better of then Georgia where he shoots protesters and his own army is rebelling.
Go Ukeraine!
The proRussia guy, Yanukovych, won.
[QUOTE=Meknes;20127532]Ya I know Orange revolution was just tossing out a Soviet dictatorship and replacing it with a Pro west one like Georgia. Thought Ukraine is better of then Georgia where he shoots protesters and his own army is rebelling.[/QUOTE] the orange revolution was in 2004. it has nothing to do with the USSR
[QUOTE=Conscript;20128811]the orange revolution was in 2004. it has nothing to do with the USSR[/QUOTE] yeah well the oligarchy was still there
[QUOTE=Meknes;20127532]Ya I know Orange revolution was just tossing out a Soviet dictatorship and replacing it with a Pro west one like Georgia. Thought Ukraine is better of then Georgia where he shoots protesters and his own army is rebelling.[/QUOTE] Yikes, what a dolt. Really, really dumb.
[QUOTE=JLea;20130678]yeah well the oligarchy was still there[/QUOTE] ukraine still has a post-soviet oligarchy. it's just nationalist now
Hang on, last election one Candidate poisioned the other :devil:
[QUOTE=Meknes;20127532]Ya I know Orange revolution was just tossing out a Soviet dictatorship and replacing it with a Pro west one like Georgia. Thought Ukraine is better of then Georgia where he shoots protesters and his own army is rebelling.[/QUOTE] What are you talking about? This happened long after 1991. The Orange Revolution came in response to the corruption and ineffectiveness of the government. It was sparked with Yanukovych's victory in 2004 which Yushchenko and Tymoshenko said it was fraudulent. That led to a fairly climatic demonstration where Yushchenko was poisoned and blamed it on opposition and in some circles, foreign agents. Eventually the courts ruled for another election where Yushchenko won with a lot of optimism and enthusiasm. In the years since then however, the parties brought in by the orange revolution weren't able to achieve anything due to parliamentary dead lock (Yanukovych's party and their allies held a majority in parliament, which made him PM for a year) and divisions amongst themselves, especially highlighted in the Georgian invasion where Yushchenko pushed for a hardline stance against Russia, whereas Tymoshenko pushed for a more moderate approach in responding to the crisis. By this point Tymoshenko and Yushchenko's groups split. And their inability to solve the gas dispute with Russia worsened their situation. Yanukovych's victory this time around highlights the degree of apathy and disillusionment the supporters of the Orange Revolution had, as well as the Ukrainian population as a whole.
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