Jelly Belly Chairman Donates to Anti-Trans Campaign - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Arctic Snow;42660921]I think wingz in his comment here, and here, is attempting to explain that not the idea of 'Transgenderism' but society's (mainly western society) implementation or execution of the idea of 'Transgenderism' is an issue for him. Just look at everyone's reaction to his opinion. It is full of aggression. Sure, you may disagree to wingz, although this does not give you permission to use harmful language or attacks in an attempt to place wingz's argument in a lower position than the majority. I am somewhat forced to agree to the majority belief here that wingz is wrong so that you, and others who read my post will place more attention on my expressions. People are so entrenched in their own arguments that they refused to further debate. Instead why don't people ask, "why? why do you think this way about this topic wingz?". Why must the majority always try to make others conform to their belief of 'right' or 'wrong' without actually fully trying to understand why the minority holds that position? This is what I am referring to, "Such shitty logic." "wingz youre a terrible monster and i hope in the future you walk into a restroom full of transgenders and people with piercings (oh my, your traditional sensibilities are off the charts!)" The quote above is amazing, because it is an attack, but an attack that people let pass because it the poster holds an opinion that aligns with the majority. "MUH TRADITIONS" Degrading the intellect of wingz, because of a disagreement in opinion. "I want you to die" holy shit. Yes, you may've felt strong emotions in regard to wingz position and probably other people in your real life who oppose your lifestyle, but wishing death upon a person? fuck man, fuck. I'd also like to comment here, First, please don't talk so boldly (ha) when you say that homosexuality is going to be legalized regardless of EVERYTHING or ANYTHING. Give us some factual accurate information on when it will be, who will lead the movement, how it will be legalized, because if we flip the argument around by saying Homosexuality [B]is going to be [I]illegalize[/I], and there is nothing that is going to stop it[/B] People would be outraged. There is no basis for this argument, but because your argument favors homosexuality and we're on Facepunch, all of a sudden it becomes okay to state absolute statements. Also I think that wingz is referring to the implications of gays being marriage. How will society react once gays can be married? What economical, political, societal effects will this change have? You simplify the result of gay marriage to just 'gays being married'.[/QUOTE] Your post is pretty hard to read.

It would be cool if there was a thread about transgenderism on this forum that didn't devolve into people trying to justify hating minorities. Just once. Even if it was like two pages long. Would be cool.

[QUOTE=Mbbird;42656578][img]http://puu.sh/50oUe.png[/img] of op 10 winners. frightening facepunch. simply frightening.[/QUOTE] I would like to think that most of them are just trolls and don't actually believe that.

[QUOTE=isnipeu;42661167]I would like to think that most of them are just trolls and don't actually believe that.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately judging by past trans related threads on FP I would have to warrant a guess that most of them actually do mean it to varying degrees.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;42660967]I could be wrong but I think this one, while serious in opposing wingz, was actually meant as a joke overall. I mean just read it, the whole premise of the post is just absurd.[/QUOTE] Yes I understand that it is a joke, but it has a degrading effect on wingz's position. While some may argue that that was the intent, to be a harmless jab, one should consider that wingz was a minority who held an position that many here would think to be 'stupid', as shown by all the boxes he received. So basically it's like you're perception of wingz's intellect and position on this issue is degraded therefore you place less consideration to his statement. [QUOTE=Awesomecaek;42661047]Your post is pretty hard to read.[/QUOTE] Thank you for the feedback.

[QUOTE=butre;42657747]I don't even like jelly beans but I'm gonna go buy some because of this [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Trolling/Shitposting, ban history" - Megafan))[/highlight][/QUOTE] rated funny because this is a joke right?

[QUOTE=Arctic Snow;42661310]Yes I understand that it is a joke, but it has a degrading effect on wingz's position. While some may argue that that was the intent, to be a harmless jab, one should consider that wingz was a minority who held an position that many here would think to be 'stupid', as shown by all the boxes he received. So basically it's like you're perception of wingz's intellect and position on this issue is degraded therefore you place less consideration to his statement.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but what are you actually trying to argue here? I tried reading your first post about this, but I still wasn't able to figure out exactly what you were arguing. He's trying to say transgenderism is corrupting society without providing any reason why except "muh traditions", and he's being ignorant about the subject while discriminating a minority for whatever reason. It's clearly not very weird that some people met this with aggression, particularly considering that there are people here who are part of the minority in question. He was also met with plenty valid arguments. Oh btw I do place less consideration to his statement, not because of a joke some other user made, but because it's a terrible, ignorant and transphobic statement.

45 winners? You people fucking disgust me.

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;42661384]rated funny because this is a joke right?[/QUOTE] Buttsex (Or whatever he calls himself now) is probably just trying to a rise out of people who are easily angered or too caught up in debates with actual transphobes to realize he's not serious. He's a bit daft, but he's not that prejudiced.

snip I'm dumb and need sleep

[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;42662240]If transgender girls are allowed to use guys restrooms and locker rooms, I can tell right now some fucked up jocks are going to rape them at some point. I support transgender people and all, but I don't know if using guys restrooms and locker rooms is a good idea. for their own safety.[/QUOTE] I'm confused, what? Transgender girls would be using the girl's bathroom.

[QUOTE=DaysBefore;42662229]Buttsex (Or whatever he calls himself now) is probably just trying to a rise out of people who are easily angered or too caught up in debates with actual transphobes to realize he's not serious. He's a bit daft, but he's not that prejudiced.[/QUOTE] pretending to be an idiot still makes you an idiot [editline]27th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;42662240]If transgender girls are allowed to use guys restrooms and locker rooms, I can tell right now some fucked up jocks are going to rape them at some point. I support transgender people and all, but I don't know if using guys restrooms and locker rooms is a good idea. for their own safety.[/QUOTE] um, what if i look like a girl i'm not going to use the men's restroom in the first place

[QUOTE=J!NX;42659543]every trans thread is always so terrible[/QUOTE] because trans are bottom of the barrel when it comes to social acceptance. even some gay people hate trans. it sucks

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;42662341]I'm confused, what? Transgender girls would be using the girl's bathroom.[/QUOTE] Now I'm confused...

[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;42662668]Now I'm confused...[/QUOTE] How? Man = Man Woman = Woman Transgender Man (female-to-male) = Man Transgender Woman (male-to-female) = Woman

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;42662684]How? Man = Man Woman = Woman Transgender Man (female-to-male) = Man Transgender Woman (male-to-female) = Woman[/QUOTE] Ok what I meant was it would be dangerous to have a transgender [b]man[/b] use guys bathrooms or locker rooms because they might get raped by some fucked up jocks.

[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;42662873]Ok what I meant was it would be dangerous to have a transgender [b]man[/b] use guys bathrooms or locker rooms because they might get raped by some fucked up jocks.[/QUOTE] uh unless those 'fucked up jocks' are gay then you still don't make much sense

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;42662879]uh unless those 'fucked up jocks' are gay then you still don't make much sense[/QUOTE] Rape has nothing to do with sexuality though. It's about striking fear and power. Lots of transgirls get raped as an attempt to "scare them straight."

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;42662908]Rape has nothing to do with sexuality though. It's about striking fear and power. Lots of transgirls get raped as an attempt to "scare them straight."[/QUOTE] not really sure how that's relevant unless these supposed fucked up people know about them being transgendered in the first place and if they do, the bathrooms aren't the only place that they would have to fear

[QUOTE=Arctic Snow;42661310]Yes I understand that it is a joke, but it has a degrading effect on wingz's position. While some may argue that that was the intent, to be a harmless jab, one should consider that wingz was a minority who held an position that many here would think to be 'stupid', as shown by all the boxes he received. So basically it's like you're perception of wingz's intellect and position on this issue is degraded therefore you place less consideration to his statement.[/QUOTE] I can't speak for anyone else but I tend not to take the posts from random people into account when developing my opinion on someone such as wingz unless they have something relevant to point out. wingz does a great job of helping me develop my perception of his intellect on his own.

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;42662879]uh unless those 'fucked up jocks' are gay then you still don't make much sense[/QUOTE] I like how the point of contention here is that they have to be homosexual, not that they have to be rapists. Men + locker/bath rooms = automatic rape, team rapings no less

[QUOTE=s0beit;42664339]I like how the point of contention here is that they have to be homosexual, not that they have to be rapists. Men + locker/bath rooms = automatic rape, team rapings no less[/QUOTE] i didn't mean it that way, but i still don't see how it's relevant. unless those people know that they're transgendered then why would it be because of that if you're in fear of being raped for that reason, then you have much more places to fear than toilets/changing rooms at the same time

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;42661384]rated funny because this is a joke right?[/QUOTE] he says shit like this constantly

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[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;42664909]-Our best and brightest- all of you can eat shit[/QUOTE] Doing this makes more people rate it winner so they can be noticed. That said, I recognize the vast majority of those names as people who [I]are[/I] transphobes.

they're all wankers but you're better off not paying any attention to them mate

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;42664909]Jivel1 capital maxspeed3006 IliekBoxes cluckmoo saorf141 Arid Sergeant Stacker Hilarious Pill FunnyStarRunner ramirez! Rethill34 Sally Depardieu uzikus Soleeedus lNloruzenchi Das Stuck spiritlol drunked Kotusifali XSFOX Lium Mebit theVendetta Azza Aperture Adam McTbone Greetings Hypershadsy Sword and Paint Alan Ninja! Latex killallfags >VLN< Rinfect Rika-chan minilandstan new_map Luisius Gwandu Fuck_The_Pooch Pocket Medic F T Damn3d Sniping Robot Blackbird88 Chryseus anthonywolfe trannykiller The Pretender Wingz Herman Rowland Sr all of you can eat shit[/QUOTE] have fun fucking ugly men with fake vaginas [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Gimmick" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=new_map;42665035]have fun fucking ugly men with fake vaginas[/QUOTE] have fun eating shit

Tradition is saying something should be done with no actual argument put forth aside from "Well, we do it so it must be right." I feel like using tradition as an argument is something that is immediately dismissable and should in some cases be considered along the lines of using something like Fox News simply because it's actually an argument with literally no logic behind it. Tradition is not an argument but a childish demand for familiarity.

[QUOTE=new_map;42665035]have fun fucking ugly men with fake vaginas[/QUOTE] Have you ever seen the vaginas of ciswomen who abuse steroids? [url=http://imgur.com/a/PvA9v]NSFW[/url] Real or "fake" you're still fucking a girl penis.