[QUOTE=MaverickIB;24842695]
Yes, people that end their lives because they can't handle the pain are pussies. You can spin it and present the worst possible case in some attempt to call me an asshole or whatever, but the bottom line is that killing yourself is an act of fear and selfishness. The [b]only[/b] exception to this is when someone extremely old is placed in that kind of situation, simply because they have already lived their life and wouldn't really have anything left to do even if they did survive. Knowing when your run is over isn't being a pussy, but sitting there and bitching about your feet hurting midway through it is pure little girl.[/QUOTE]
Let's just get something straight okay? You may admire your brother for seeing it through all the way, but don't idolise his stubbornness. Yes, he didn't give up but don't act like he's some sort of deity who should be an example to us all. What is it with you and your 'anyone who kills himself is a pussy' mentality? Some people don't WANT to see their end closing in, uncertain when they'll die. Why don't you seem to see a middle ground? There's black and white, where's the fucking grey?
Again, I seriously wish you find yourself suicidal. If you do end up offing yourself, I'll be at your funeral if possible and laugh at you in the fucking face.
This.
[QUOTE=Clint Cavanagh;24843061]Euthanasia is a good thing. All the old farts will die instantly, without using our precious oxygen for their needs.[/QUOTE]
Dumbest reason for supporting it I've ever seen.
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[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;24843199]Let's just get something straight okay? You may admire your brother for seeing it through all the way, but don't idolise his stubbornness. Yes, he didn't give up but don't act like he's some sort of deity who should be a example to us all. What is it with you and your 'anyone who kills himself is a pussy' mentality? Why don't you seem to see a middle ground? There's black and white, where's the fucking grey?
Again, I seriously wish you find yourself suicidal and off yourself. If possible, I'll be at your funeral and laugh you in the fucking face.[/QUOTE]
Dumb as his opinion may be, wishing death on him is just irrational.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;24843330]
Dumb as his opinion may be, wishing death on him is just irrational.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps it is, edited into something less...whatever it is. Fact remains the guy is an absolute dumbshit.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;24843330]Dumbest reason for supporting it I've ever seen.
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Why? IMO we will run out of water faster if the old people use it. Do you know how much they use it ? Euthanasia should be given in mandatory plugs for people abouve the age of 75. They should all die and not waste our precious planet.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;24843199]Let's just get something straight okay? You may admire your brother for seeing it through all the way, but don't idolise his stubbornness. Yes, he didn't give up but don't act like he's some sort of deity who should be an example to us all. What is it with you and your 'anyone who kills himself is a pussy' mentality? Some people don't WANT to see their end closing in, uncertain when they'll die. Why don't you seem to see a middle ground? There's black and white, where's the fucking grey?
Again, I seriously wish you find yourself suicidal. If you do end up offing yourself, I'll be at your funeral if possible and laugh at you in the fucking face.[/QUOTE]
There's no middle ground with life and death. You're either alive or dead. Even if you're close to death, you're still alive.
Why shouldn't my brother be an example for you all? Are you seriously trying to say that we [i]shouldn't[/i] all be brave, and should just kill ourselves the second we get a terminal disease?
Nothing anyone has said has disproved my points. Killing yourself is something you do when you're afraid, hence you're a pussy. It's a pathetic attempt at running away from pain and uncertainty. Sounds harsh, but those are the facts. Killing yourself to save yourself from further pain is just ridiculous and should in no way be looked upon without disdain.
Soldiers that endure torture for years and fight to stay alive are heros. Soldiers that give in and kill themselves because they can't handle it aren't remembered. It should be the same case with people suffering from illness. Humans are a creature of survival, offing yourself out of fear is disgraceful to the entire species.
haha, suicide being illegal good JOKE
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;24845345]There's no middle ground with life and death. You're either alive or dead. Even if you're close to death, you're still alive. [/quote]
You're missing the point. You're calling people either brave or pussies. Harsh judgment much?
[quote]Why shouldn't my brother be an example for you all? Are you seriously trying to say that we [i]shouldn't[/i] all be brave, and should just kill ourselves the second we get a terminal disease?
Nothing anyone has said has disproved my points. Killing yourself is something you do when you're afraid, hence you're a pussy. It's a pathetic attempt at running away from pain and uncertainty. Sounds harsh, but those are the facts. Killing yourself to save yourself from further pain is just ridiculous and should in no way be looked upon without disdain.[/quote]
We live in a society where not everybody is born strong, be it physically or mentally. And that seems to be the thing you can't get into your thick skull. Not everyone is as awesome and a badass motherfucker like you're claiming to be. Not everyone can handle the struggle of life sometimes. We will always have people who are weaker. To treat them as inferior (which is exactly what you're doing) absolutely reeks of 'elitist fucking asshole'.
[quote]Soldiers that endure torture for years and fight to stay alive are heros. Soldiers that give in and kill themselves because they can't handle it aren't remembered. It should be the same case with people suffering from illness. Humans are a creature of survival, offing yourself out of fear is disgraceful to the entire species.[/QUOTE]
You know why those soldiers off themselves? It's because they've seen stuff that scares the living shit out of anybody else. This isn't a matter of being 'weak' or a 'pussy', this is something beyond you and anyone elses control.
The more you post, the more I'm convinced you're some kind of sad sociopath who idolizes his dead brother so fucking much that anyone who disagrees with what he stood for is automatically a pussy, fucking stupid, a whiny bitch or a cunt.
[QUOTE=Clint Cavanagh;24843397]Why? IMO we will run out of water faster if the old people use it. Do you know how much they use it ? Euthanasia should be given in mandatory plugs for people abouve the age of 75. They should all die and not waste our precious planet.[/QUOTE]
Water is a naturally recycled resource.
[QUOTE=Hendo;24819525]haha what the fuck, how can they make it illegal to suicide when they cant do anything to you if your dead :downs:[/QUOTE]
They send your family to prison for not stopping you.
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[QUOTE=MaverickIB;24842695]So people should be able to off themselves prematurely and have the government just go "oh lol I guess we can just pretend all of your debts and stuff disappeared lol?"
Get out of your fantasy land kiddo, this is the real world. There needs to be repercussions for ending your life prematurely as a method of discouraging it. Make people choose between staying alive or screwing their family. Maybe it'd be enough to make more people hang in there and fight it out.
Yes, people that end their lives because they can't handle the pain are pussies. You can spin it and present the worst possible case in some attempt to call me an asshole or whatever, but the bottom line is that killing yourself is an act of fear and selfishness. The [b]only[/b] exception to this is when someone extremely old is placed in that kind of situation, simply because they have already lived their life and wouldn't really have anything left to do even if they did survive. Knowing when your run is over isn't being a pussy, but sitting there and bitching about your feet hurting midway through it is pure little girl.[/QUOTE]
We can't all be as strong as your bro. Fuck off.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;24823980]Get over it.
No matter how you try to spin it, killing yourself is giving up on life.
My brother fought multiple forms of cancer for years. He was in constant pain from the almost non-stop chemotherapy that he was bombarded with. It is safe to say that he was going through more pain that most people experience throughout their entire lives.
Did he want to throw in the towel and off himself? No. He understood that giving up, no matter how much shit you're going through, is weakness in its purest form. He fought that cancer to the grave, like a truly brave person would.
If I was terminally ill, I'd fight it for as long as I possibly could. Sometimes shit happens and you pull out of it. People have woken up from extremely long comas, defeated life-threatening cancer, and much more. Like I said, if people want to off themselves because they can't handle the pain and whatnot, I feel like they have every right to do so. However, don't go trying to spin shit like they're brave or whatever. People don't pull the trigger or off themselves out of bravery, they do it out of fear. Stop glorifying their weakness.[/QUOTE]
Goddamn it Maverick I thought you were smart
[editline]02:10AM[/editline]
But then again, you've always been that aggressive jock
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;24842695]Make people choose between staying alive or screwing their family.[/quote]
Wow, so we should punish people because of the actions of their family members.
Do you know how retarded this sounds?
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;24842695]Yes, people that end their lives because they can't handle the pain are pussies. You can spin it and present the worst possible case in some attempt to call me an asshole or whatever, but the bottom line is that killing yourself is an act of fear and selfishness.[/quote]
Fear and selfishness are more admirable qualities than being a cunt, just saying.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;24842695]The [b]only[/b] exception to this is when someone extremely old is placed in that kind of situation, simply because they have already lived their life and wouldn't really have anything left to do even if they did survive. Knowing when your run is over isn't being a pussy, but sitting there and bitching about your feet hurting midway through it is pure little girl.[/QUOTE]
How old is old? Did you just draw some stupid arbitrary line or do you actually have some logic here? Because from where I sit, your posts have been the rantings of a little kid who almost lost his brother and can't deal with that.
[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;24853226]
How old is old? Did you just draw some stupid arbitrary line or do you actually have some logic here? Because from where I sit, your posts have been the rantings of a little kid who almost lost his brother and can't deal with that.[/QUOTE]
Where's the logic in anything you say? All you've done is call me retarded and a cunt, really solid logic you got there, kiddo.
There's no line, but it's fairly obvious when someone is aged to the point of having lived pretty much all of their life.
I don't even know why I bother, because you obviously can't even read. I didn't say that I [i]almost[/i] lost my brother, I said that I [i]did[/i] lose my brother. I can deal with it just fine because he fought it to the grave like people should do, instead of being a little girl and taking some easy way out. Diseases are constantly being cured, new treatments are constantly being tried out, to give up just because you have a terminal illness is plain stupid. You have no idea if they'll find a way to cure you tomorrow, or next week, or next year. The human thing to do is fight it out and hope you survive, not kill yourself just because times are tough.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;24808951]Why? Legal suicide would allow legal promotion of it and other stuff to encourage it.[/QUOTE]
Kill yourself within the next eleven minutes and receive a free tote bag!
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[QUOTE=thedekoykid;24817740]Dead people cost the government money, or the families of the peoples money. They don't want to spend money. Why do you think theres places as "You might die tomorrow, pay us a monthly fee so your families don't have to pay for your funeral."
Don't say "Why don't they just throw them into a ditch?" it costs money to dig holes, no one is going to do that shit for free. Then theres media, people saying "You can't just bury them in a hole in the middle of no where"(Protesters) So, Think about it for a second before you think its a dumb idea.
The right to die, Would be allowed if the person paid for their death costs.
Cause dying isn't free.[/QUOTE]
lol wait where does the government pay for funerals
they're private
so death stimulates the economy
OH NO THAT'S HORRIBLE
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;24854081]Where's the logic in anything you say? All you've done is call me retarded and a cunt, really solid logic you got there, kiddo.
There's no line, but it's fairly obvious when someone is aged to the point of having lived pretty much all of their life.
I don't even know why I bother, because you obviously can't even read. I didn't say that I [I]almost[/I] lost my brother, I said that I [I]did[/I] lose my brother. I can deal with it just fine because he fought it to the grave like people should do, instead of being a little girl and taking some easy way out. Diseases are constantly being cured, new treatments are constantly being tried out, to give up just because you have a terminal illness is plain stupid. You have no idea if they'll find a way to cure you tomorrow, or next week, or next year. The human thing to do is fight it out and hope you survive, not kill yourself just because times are tough.[/QUOTE]
lol "being a little girl"
i didn't know pulling the plug on a permanently comatose vegetable person makes them little girls.
you are one of the new sociopaths on facepunch. congratulations.
i don't think you know the definition of 'terminal illness'. please, sit for ten years consecutively, day and night in the most unimaginable pain you can imagine with no end in sight and i think MAYBE you should see why people would like a mercy killing. HOW does this make them 'pussies'. your petty adolescent need of 'bravery' has no place when it comes to awful diseases that kill people from the inside out and simply don't want to sit like this for years and years of an uncurable disease. you sicken me to the core with your black and white stance on life and death.
"allow me to die with dignity instead of wasting away from a terminal, uncurable disease."
"LOL U PUSSY"
-MaverickIB, 2010
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I think the add us horrible. I don't blame Australia for banning the add. You know what else I am sick of? Everyone going 'Huur durr Australia ain't cool cuz dey ban'd adz' /stupid rant I know I'll regret posting
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;24820977]If that's the case, why not ban commercials altogether?[/QUOTE]
We can only hope. At least make them go through some sort of screening so that only exceptional ads like the Old Spice ads get through.
[QUOTE=Sir Muffin;24821495]So, now it's cool to kill people?
That's what it is, really: killing, whether it's desireable for the receiver or not. I'm amused by the titles we assign to these things to make ourselves feel better about [I]killing[/I], which we would ordinarily oppose wholeheartedly.[/QUOTE]
so? it's justified, because the person dying is almost always suffering excruciating pain. your argument is stupid.
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