Police Taser student several times during altercation, "it tickles." - Polidicks

That girl is a conduit. No other explication.

[QUOTE=Andokool12;35971679]It's just that everybody around you cringes when you say that and it's not cool it's obnoxious and "HUEEEGHH LOOK AT ME I'M LIKE THE COOL PEOPLE ON TV!" bullshit. You and other people that say it think you're really cool looking when you say that but in reality everybody around you is cringing and mentally facepalming at the social awkwardness and try-harding. It feels really nice to finally be able to tell somebody like this the truth about how they appear versus how they think they appear.[/QUOTE] Is that all your hormones and angst out, or are you going to keep going? :v:

[QUOTE=Andokool12;35971679]It's just that everybody around you cringes when you say that and it's not cool it's obnoxious and "HUEEEGHH LOOK AT ME I'M LIKE THE COOL PEOPLE ON TV!" bullshit. You and other people that say it think you're really cool looking when you say that but in reality everybody around you is cringing and mentally facepalming at the social awkwardness and try-harding. It feels really nice to finally be able to tell somebody like this the truth about how they appear versus how they think they appear.[/QUOTE] talking about social awkwardness when you can only FINALLY BE ABLE TO TELL SOMEBODY LIKE THIS THE TRUTH on the facepunch hahaha lol your post tickles

[quote]Mishawaka Cpl. Jeffrey Giannuzzi, the school’s resource officer, was called to the cafeteria about 11:40 a.m. by assistant principal Mike Fisher on a report that the suspect would not wear her school identification card [/quote] This is the part that disturbs me. It's a school, not a fucking high security R&D lab.

[QUOTE=MIPS;35971983]This is the part that disturbs me. It's a school, not a fucking high security R&D lab.[/QUOTE] All our Vietnam vet. hall monitors flip shit about IDs. If you're not wearing your ID you're a terrorist, it's seriously that bad.

I have been tased before- it absolutely hurts like a bitch, plus you feel helpless from losing controls of your muscles in your body from electrically volted. (my friend was being a fag.)

[QUOTE=MIPS;35971983]This is the part that disturbs me. It's a school, not a fucking high security R&D lab.[/QUOTE] Way to only show part of the truth: [quote]Mishawaka Cpl. Jeffrey Giannuzzi, the school’s resource officer, was called to the cafeteria about 11:40 a.m. by assistant principal Mike Fisher on a report that the suspect would not wear her school identification card [b]or report to in-school suspension.[/b][/quote] Typically the proper response to a student refusing to go to school is to call a truancy cop.

Sounds like a mental institution is a more appropriate place for her...

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;35972068]Way to only show part of the truth: **"or report to in-school suspension."** Typically the proper response to a student refusing to go to school is to call a truancy cop.[/QUOTE] Man, your country is weird. It is nowhere near like that up here, even in the troubled neighborhoods.

[QUOTE=Smokes;35972011]All our Vietnam vet. hall monitors flip shit about IDs. If you're not wearing your ID you're a terrorist, it's seriously that bad.[/QUOTE] Makes me glad to be in a small school where nothing bad ever happens.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;35972068]Way to only show part of the truth: Typically the proper response to a student refusing to go to school is to call a truancy cop.[/QUOTE] He means the fact that you have to wear an ID badge around school, I've never heard of any schools doing that.

[QUOTE=Smokes;35972011]All our Vietnam vet. hall monitors flip shit about IDs. If you're not wearing your ID you're a terrorist, it's seriously that bad.[/QUOTE] where the hell do you live, detroit?

[QUOTE=Electrocuter;35971010]Probably fat or thick clothing.[/QUOTE] The pins are designed to pierce bullet proof armour, they will pierce the skin and fat...

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;35969937]police officer can't stop a highschool girl without using a taser multiple times hah good goin. quit your job because you're shit at it[/QUOTE] Let me explain something to you using simple words. When someone is being physically resistant to arrest or detention, a taser is a good option because if the taser is not used, injuries happen. Believe it or not, cops do not get paid enough to wade into fights and soak up blows like a sponge. As someone training to be a police officer, I can tell you that while I could easily get control of an assaultive high school student, I'd probably not be able to do it without cracking one of her ribs, badly bruising, or otherwise injuring her. Police prefer to avoid causing harm that'll take weeks to heal, if at all possible. The taser causes the subject, in typical cases, to temporarily lose motor control. Yes, it's painful, but that's all it is, and allows officers to get physical control of a subject without having to see a dentist later. There have been cases where officers misused the taser, but this wasn't one.

[QUOTE=archangel125;35972286]Let me explain something to you using simple words. When someone is being physically resistant to arrest or detention, a taser is a good option because if the taser is not used, injuries happen. Believe it or not, cops do not get paid enough to wade into fights and soak up blows like a sponge. As someone training to be a police officer, I can tell you that while I could easily get control of an assaultive high school student, I'd probably not be able to do it without cracking one of her ribs, badly bruising, or otherwise injuring her. Police prefer to avoid causing harm that'll take weeks to heal, if at all possible. The taser causes the subject, in typical cases, to temporarily lose motor control. Yes, it's painful, but that's all it is, and allows officers to get physical control of a subject without having to see a dentist later. There have been cases where officers misused the taser, but this wasn't one.[/QUOTE] She was being handcuffed for refusing to go to school, and she fought that. I don't know what kind of fucked up school's you guys have over in the US and canada, but if a student refuses to go to school here, you call their parents, and if the problem persists, you call the school inspector and call the truancy in. The inspector will then have a talk with the student and it's parents and depending on the conversation either let it go or fine the parents. Hell, we don't even have any 'police' in schools here (excluding the American school in the Netherlands which has it's own security and metal detectors and all that shit while being a sort of gated community with it's own track field in one of the richest parts of the city).

[QUOTE=archangel125;35972286]Let me explain something to you using simple words. When someone is being physically resistant to arrest or detention, a taser is a good option because if the taser is not used, injuries happen. Believe it or not, cops do not get paid enough to wade into fights and soak up blows like a sponge. As someone training to be a police officer, I can tell you that while I could easily get control of an assaultive high school student, I'd probably not be able to do it without cracking one of her ribs, badly bruising, or otherwise injuring her. Police prefer to avoid causing harm that'll take weeks to heal, if at all possible. The taser causes the subject, in typical cases, to temporarily lose motor control. Yes, it's painful, but that's all it is, and allows officers to get physical control of a subject without having to see a dentist later. There have been cases where officers misused the taser, but this wasn't one.[/QUOTE] yea because its not like tasers have consistently been found to be far more dangerous than cops claim. [editline]16th May 2012[/editline] frankly if you're having to use any kind of weapon on a 17 year old girl (regardless of it being 'non lethal') then you're doing a pretty shitty job as a cop

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;35972376] frankly if you're having to use any kind of weapon on a 17 year old girl (regardless of it being 'non lethal') then you're doing a pretty shitty job as a cop[/QUOTE] Would you rather the cop broke her arm? [editline]15th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=mobrockers2;35972358]She was being handcuffed for refusing to go to school, and she fought that. I don't know what kind of fucked up school's you guys have over in the US and canada, but if a student refuses to go to school here, you call their parents, and if the problem persists, you call the school inspector and call the truancy in. The inspector will then have a talk with the student and it's parents and depending on the conversation either let it go or fine the parents. [/QUOTE] That may have been what was originally planned, but the article says the taser and handcuffs were applied AFTER she began to fight school officials. When you hit someone, the gloves come off across the board, and you're being arrested for something more than refusing to attend class.

[QUOTE=archangel125;35972400]Would you rather the cop broke her arm? [editline]15th May 2012[/editline] That may have been what was originally planned, but the article says the taser and handcuffs were applied AFTER she began to fight school officials. When you hit someone, the gloves come off across the board, and you're being arrested for something more than refusing to attend class.[/QUOTE] no i'd rather the cops weren't even called and this was solved in a reasonable and adult fashion and not just with police violence, but even then, i don't see how it's necessary to break a 17 year old girls arm in order to restrain her. i'm a 20 year old male and i've been restrained without my arms being broken

[QUOTE=archangel125;35972400]Would you rather the cop broke her arm? [editline]15th May 2012[/editline] That may have been what was originally planned, but the article says the taser and handcuffs were applied AFTER she began to fight school officials. When you hit someone, the gloves come off across the board, and you're being arrested for something more than refusing to attend class.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Police said the girl did not listen to Giannuzzi’s instructions to put on the identification card and go to suspension and, instead, became belligerent and began cursing at the officer. When Giannuzzi went to put handcuffs on her, she yelled and pulled away. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;35972477]When Giannuzzi went to put handcuffs on her, she yelled and pulled away.[/QUOTE] Past that point, the officer didn't have many options. Consider this from their point of view: When a cop tries to put handcuffs on someone, they are detaining that person. In this case it wouldn't have been an arrest, it'd have been a temporary suspension of freedom - restraint - because the officer perceived that she was being uncooperative, and a potentially violent risk to those around her. The second she pulled away, she went from being verbally resistant to physically resistant - The guide book classifies that as the next stage of force. This warrants, when necessary, a slightly higher use of force on the part of the police officer to maintain control of the subject. You understand that at this point the cop can't simply decide "This isn't worth the trouble, not my problem." He'd lose his job. When the cop warned her that he was going to use the taser if she didn't comply, he was giving her another chance to co-operate before using force. She remained resistant, and he did what he'd warned her he would. It just so happened that it wasn't nearly as effective as the cop hoped it would be. [editline]15th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lachz0r;35972470]I'm a 20 year old male and i've been restrained without my arms being broken[/QUOTE] Were you being physically resistant? Were you co-operating, or were you fighting?

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;35969937]police officer can't stop a highschool girl without using a taser multiple times hah good goin. quit your job because you're shit at it[/QUOTE] Well considering the alternative is more or less a good 'ol fashion beat down (which the article already says he struck her several times before tasing).

[QUOTE=archangel125;35972616]Past that point, the officer didn't have many options. Consider this from their point of view: When a cop tries to put handcuffs on someone, they are detaining that person. In this case it wouldn't have been an arrest, it'd have been a temporary suspension of freedom - restraint - because the officer perceived that she was being uncooperative, and a potentially violent risk to those around her. The second she pulled away, she went from being verbally resistant to physically resistant - The guide book classifies that as the next stage of force. This warrants, when necessary, a slightly higher use of force on the part of the police officer to maintain control of the subject. You understand that at this point the cop can't simply decide "This isn't worth the trouble, not my problem." He'd lose his job. When the cop warned her that he was going to use the taser if she didn't comply, he was giving her another chance to co-operate before using force. She remained resistant, and he did what he'd warned her he would. It just so happened that it wasn't nearly as effective as the cop hoped it would be. [editline]15th May 2012[/editline] Were you being physically resistant? Were you co-operating, or were you fighting?[/QUOTE] I'm saying that they should never have tried to detain her in the first place. That was totally uncalled for and just plain stupid. She was mad already, and then you physically assault her by trying to detain her... This is why it's stupid to have an officer handling these things at a school. Send a teacher to talk to people like this, calm them. Not escalate the situation by trying to detain someone.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;35972729]I'm saying that they should never have tried to detain her in the first place. That was totally uncalled for and just plain stupid. She was mad already, and then you physically assault her by trying to detain her... This is why it's stupid to have an officer handling these things at a school. Send a teacher to talk to people like this, calm them. Not escalate the situation by trying to detain someone.[/QUOTE] [quote]Mishawaka Cpl. Jeffrey Giannuzzi, the school’s resource officer, was called to the cafeteria about 11:40 a.m. by assistant principal Mike Fisher on a report that the suspect would not wear her school identification card or report to in-school suspension. Police said the girl did not listen to Giannuzzi’s instructions to put on the identification card and go to suspension and, instead, became belligerent and began cursing at the officer.[/quote] Oh look, he did try talking to her first. And she flipped the fuck out.

[QUOTE=Rents;35970878]Pain tolerance doesn't help you any against a tazer, they make your muscles seize up. No idea why it wasn't working on her though, maybe it was faulty or something.[/QUOTE] When you're fat as shit you don't have much muscle to contract I guess. Also ugly doesn't conduct electricity.

Too clear things up, she's pretty much a whale. So my best guess is tazers don't work well with fat.

what the fuck the taser [I]didn't work[/I] gentlemen we need this women's genes [editline]15th May 2012[/editline] oh actually never mind i don't think we want this thing to reproduce

[QUOTE=yawmwen;35971744]A problem is saying that any amount of electricity or stimuli will cause a uniform reaction among all people. People have a unique body chemistry and sometimes things don't quite work the way you might expect them. I mean I wouldn't rule out the TASER malfunctioning, but I also wouldn't rule out that maybe her body simply wasn't affected in the way you might expect.[/QUOTE] There are actually people that can resist the shock from the taser without very many problems, I don't know if this is actually related to body-chemistry or pain tolerance though.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;35972675]Well considering the alternative is more or less a good 'ol fashion beat down (which the article already says he struck her several times before tasing).[/QUOTE] You don't have to beat the fuck out of someone to detain them.

[QUOTE=Melkor;35973351]You don't have to beat the fuck out of someone to detain them.[/QUOTE] Yeah maybe if you keep yelling at them they will give up.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;35970842]how did the taser not bother her?[/QUOTE] From what I understand there's a few small number of people out there that it just doesn't work on. Or it could just not have been working, I guess the whole getting shot by a taser (as they did to her once or twice along with the drive stun it sounds) would hurt with or without the electricity behind it.