• Migrant Admits To Raping Child In Pool
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[QUOTE=Scarabix;49716245]Good luck jerking off without a foreskin too I heard it's painful as shit without lube. [/QUOTE] It isn't Source: Me, semi pro masturbator
[QUOTE=Scarabix;49716245]Good luck jerking off without a foreskin too I heard it's painful as shit without lube. But little boys are hallal.[/QUOTE] It's not painful
Now we have two potential doctors/lawyers/engineers.
Isn't homosexuality a crime in the parts that theses people are coming from? Well, It looks like he's going to jail and luckily the people locked up there share the same desires and will happily make him pay for it.
I was looking this up out of curiosity, and it looks like the Quran essentially gives you a free pass to do whatever the hell you want to nonbelievers. [quote] Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides, whom ye may not know (8:60) Strive hard (Jihad) against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed. (66:9, See also 9:73) He whom Allah sendeth astray, for him there is no guide. [B]For them is a penalty in the life of this world[/B][This line says how inflicting "penalties" upon nonbelievers is justified], but harder, truly, is the penalty of the Hereafter… (13:33-34) Fight them, them by your hands and bring them to disgrace... (9:14) "If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, by means of others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost") (47:4) [/quote] Why the fuck do many liberal groups support this religion again? I'm very liberal, and that's the reason why I have an issue with Islam in the first place. It's just a flat-out fucked up religion with fucked up values that has absolutely no place in any even remotely developed country.
[QUOTE=Passing;49716530]Isn't homosexuality a crime in the parts that theses people are coming from? Well, It looks like he's going to jail and luckily the people locked up there share the same desires and will happily make him pay for it.[/QUOTE] Allah forgives all. No different in a Western nation. If you cheat on your wife on Saturday and got to church Sunday, all is forgiven. Their holy day I believe is on Fri. [QUOTE]Why the fuck do many liberal groups support this religion again? I'm very liberal, and that's the reason why I have an issue with Islam in the first place. It's just a flat-out fucked up religion with fucked up values that has absolutely no place in any even remotely developed country.[/QUOTE] Its because they are not part of western culture, and are not white. Mostly. Thus automatically beyond criticism.
[QUOTE=phygon;49716643] Why the fuck do many liberal groups support this religion again? I'm very liberal, and that's the reason why I have an issue with Islam in the first place. It's just a flat-out fucked up religion with fucked up values that has absolutely no place in any even remotely developed country.[/QUOTE] Then describe what you would do about Islam in the west. What do you do to "fix" it? Y'know, I've always seen this running pattern of "MAN, Islam is FuCkEd UP bruv! Look at these cherry picked quotes from the Quran!", but when they are met with similar verses from the Bible or Torah, they immediately turn about and say "yeah well i mean nobody REALLY follows those anymore and they're just as bad!".
[QUOTE=phygon;49716643]I was looking this up out of curiosity, and it looks like the Quran essentially gives you a free pass to do whatever the hell you want to nonbelievers. Why the fuck do many liberal groups support this religion again? I'm very liberal, and that's the reason why I have an issue with Islam in the first place. It's just a flat-out fucked up religion with fucked up values.[/QUOTE] You might want to check your context on that particular verse or chapter of the Quran,If I remember correctly,that chapter was about Muhammad and the first Muslims striking back against the Jews of Mecca after they broke a truce and tried to kill him. I don't particularly buy into the belief that Islam is a peaceful religion either btw but that's not the quote you should be looking into if you want to show how Islam is flawed
[QUOTE=Tarver;49716673]You might want to check your context on that particular verse or chapter of the Quran,If I remember correctly,that chapter was about Muhammad and the first Muslims striking back against the Jews of Mecca after they broke a truce and tried to kill him. I don't particularly buy into the belief that Islam is a peaceful religion either btw but that's not the quote you should be looking into if you want to show how Islam is flawed[/QUOTE] I think it's a perfectly adequate quote, it says how to properly deal with non-believers. Context is irrelevant when it says "you can do X Y Z to nonbelievers". [editline]s[/editline] [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49716670]Then describe what you would do about Islam in the west. What do you do to "fix" it? Y'know, I've always seen this running pattern of "MAN, Islam is FuCkEd UP bruv! Look at these cherry picked quotes from the Quran!", but when they are met with similar verses from the Bible or Torah, they immediately turn about and say "yeah well i mean nobody REALLY follows those anymore and they're just as bad!".[/QUOTE] I'm not sure if you can fix it. The religion is intrinsically fucked up but people have the right to believe in whatever they will believe in. I think that all we can do to "fix" it is truly show that this kind of behavior isn't tolerated in western countries, set examples with particularly harsh punishments for those that try to use religion as an excuse for their abhorrent behavior, and not let what's happening in Britain happen (with muslim groups declaring certain blocks under Sharia law, etc) ever. It's not an easy issue. The thing is, the quotes aren't [I]really[/I] that cherry picked. The book is absolutely rife with quotes like that; about how a woman is not actually raped if she cannot prove it (with "proof" being the testimony of four trustworthy men), how women are owned by their husbands, etc. It's absolutely fucked. I have the exact same issue with the Torah. The old testament is a vile thing to base a religion off of. the thing is, there simply aren't any jewish fundamentalists that carry out the true message of their holy book, thank god. The thing with the bible is that unlike the previous two texts, it isn't claimed to be directly from the mouth of god. It's a collection of scriptures that people wrote far after their prophet's death (the reason being that Jesus initially claimed that the world would end within their lifetimes, and thus they didn't feel the need to write anything down until they all got old and started panicking that the word of their savior would fade away). Additionally, the bible contains nothing even half as vile as the contents of the old testament or the Quran. At the end of the day, I think we need to sit back and honestly ask ourselves why we allow ten-thousand year old books to dictate what we teach people in a modern society. This isn't me tipping a fedora, this isn't me going "clearly atheism is superior", but jesus christ this shit is just bad and extremely counterproductive to society.
These people act dumb because they know the West tolerates it. They know what sexual harassment is, child molestation, rape etc.
[QUOTE=Tarver;49716673]You might want to check your context on that particular verse or chapter of the Quran,If I remember correctly,that chapter was about Muhammad and the first Muslims striking back against the Jews of Mecca after they broke a truce and tried to kill him. I don't particularly buy into the belief that Islam is a peaceful religion either btw but that's not the quote you should be looking into if you want to show how Islam is flawed[/QUOTE] A religion is only as peaceful as the people that adhere to it. If you convert the people of a violent, unstable part of the world to a religion, they'll use it as justification for violence. If you convert the people of a quiet, hospitable part of the world, they'll use it for peaceful purposes. More often than not, you'll wind up with a mix of the two. No part of the world is completely violent or completely peaceful.
Every single one of these threads are like clockwork. literally same arguments from the same people, even if they were debunked over and over again. Even if you want to completely and utterly ignore all the Muslims living in western parts of the world and are completely integrated fine, look at countries who were exposed to westernization, particularly Iran (that is, before the government proceeded to screw stuff up). Ironically, the movement that changed Irans "westernization" movement and made it go completely backwards is eerily similar to certain republican candidates, who promised a "christian" america. The people of Iran have tried to bring equal rights, including womens rights, but their government quite literally shot that down, rigged the elections, etc. Call me crazy, but even as an atheist, I see Islam no different than Judaism, Christianity, or any other religion in the sense that it too can modernize if given the freedoms, notably free speech. Unfortunately, everyone can see that the governments there (if they even function) generally don't seem really keen on that. But lets just nitpick books written thousands of years ago in order to make these people look as inherently as evil as possible, right?
Holy hell, took a while for FP to jump on to this sexual emergency thing.
[QUOTE=da space core;49717288] But lets just nitpick books written thousands of years ago in order to make these people look as inherently as evil as possible, right?[/QUOTE] I don't think that anyone here is saying that muslims are bad.
This is something that is not too uncommon in the arab world - it is called "Bacha bazi"which means "boy play" or "child game". [Quote] Bacha bazi is a slang term in Afghanistan for a wide variety of activities that involve homosexual child sexual abuse and pederasty. The perpetrator is commonly called Bacha Baz (meaning "pedophile" in Persian). It may include to some extent child pornography, sexual slavery, and child prostitution in which prepubescent and adolescent boys are sold to wealthy or powerful men for entertainment and sexual activities. Bacha bazi has existed throughout history, and is currently reported in various parts of Afghanistan. Force and coercion are a common component of this abuse, and security officials state they are unable to end it because many of the men involved in bacha bazi-related activities are powerful and well-armed warlords including former Northern Alliance commanders. During the Taliban's rule (1994-2001), bacha bazi officially carried the death penalty but was rarely enforced. The practice of dancing boys is illegal under Afghan law, being "against both sharia law and the civil code", but the laws are seldom enforced against powerful offenders and police have been reportedly complicit in related crimes.[/quote] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi[/url] [url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-11217772[/url]
[QUOTE=phygon;49717600]I don't think that anyone here is saying that muslims are bad.[/QUOTE] there were a few people here (very few, but a couple) who were blatantly racist but I think the overall "shock" of the refugee crisis has passed and we can discuss/argue about whilst staying the realm of reality at least. For me personally, its the terminology or way that some people state their opinions that bother me, although I will say I noticed many people here changed their tone on this issue as a result of the debate (including myself) which is nice. The more unbiased a debate the better
[QUOTE=da space core;49717288]Every single one of these threads are like clockwork. literally same arguments from the same people, even if they were debunked over and over again. Even if you want to completely and utterly ignore all the Muslims living in western parts of the world and are completely integrated fine, look at countries who were exposed to westernization, particularly Iran (that is, before the government proceeded to screw stuff up). Ironically, the movement that changed Irans "westernization" movement and made it go completely backwards is eerily similar to certain republican candidates, who promised a "christian" america. The people of Iran have tried to bring equal rights, including womens rights, but their government quite literally shot that down, rigged the elections, etc. Call me crazy, but even as an atheist, I see Islam no different than Judaism, Christianity, or any other religion in the sense that it too can modernize if given the freedoms, notably free speech. Unfortunately, everyone can see that the governments there (if they even function) generally don't seem really keen on that. But lets just nitpick books written thousands of years ago in order to make these people look as inherently as evil as possible, right?[/QUOTE] I would argue but at this point I've just come to accept that you're incapable of understanding that Islam isn't a liberal, progressive religion. You haven't debunked my arguments. You've continually been backed into a corner every time you've made the assertion that Islam is no different from Christianity and Judaism. Maybe someone with more time than me will bother trying their hand at this particular debate again. [QUOTE]I don't think that anyone here is saying that muslims are bad. [/QUOTE] I believe it was Richard Dawkins who once remarked that Muslims are not necessarily evil, but Islam is. That more or less summarizes my stance on the issue.
A religion founded by a warlord is bound to be different then religions founded by non-militaristic founders. You have to be dropped behind the shed to think there would be no difference.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49716670]Y'know, I've always seen this running pattern of "MAN, Islam is FuCkEd UP bruv! Look at these cherry picked quotes from the Quran!", but when they are met with similar verses from the Bible or Torah, they immediately turn about and say "[B]yeah well i mean nobody REALLY follows those anymore and they're just as bad![/B]".[/QUOTE] Thats the big difference here though. Muslims in the west are liberal as fuck and don't follow their faith to the degree that people in the developing world do. Christianity in Uganda is fucked up. Christian doctrine that condemns homosexuality can be blamed for this to some extent.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;49717831]A religion founded by a warlord is bound to be different then religions founded by non-militaristic founders. You have to be dropped behind the shed to think there would be no difference.[/QUOTE] It may be different, yes. It may contain different content. In the end though, as I said before, it depends far more on its adherents than the content itself. Like Ranger said, Christianity, when followed in backwards, unstable parts of the world, often finds itself used to justify violence. Contrast that with Christianity in the US, or Europe. Yes, you may occasionally hear of cases of violence against homosexuals or other perceived enemies of the religion, but those crimes are generally committed by outliers, and are not the norm.
[QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49717776]I would argue but at this point I've just come to accept that you're incapable of understanding that Islam isn't a liberal, progressive religion. You haven't debunked my arguments. You've continually been backed into a corner every time you've made the assertion that Islam is no different from Christianity and Judaism. Maybe someone with more time than me will bother trying their hand at this particular debate again. [/QUOTE] The funny thing was I wasn't really targeting you in this case but oh well. My general stance on religion in general is that whatever religious texts say "word for word" can become irrelevant. in the same way if you point out to many Christians little phrases in the bible that "gays should be stoned" or whatever, and they would say something along the lines "well we dont follow those parts." I simply believe the same can happen to islam. I am not going to go for a theological argument itself because I am not a theologist (And I doubt you are). I am simply stating that islam can, and has, become "modernized" when given the opportunity. Here is the thing [QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49715903]Rape is OK but only if it's an unveiled woman.[/QUOTE] It is these kinds of statements that I find disheartening. You already got groups like ISIS using islam as an excuse to do terrible things, don't add to it.
[QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49715552]Doubly so because prostitution is legal in Austria.[/QUOTE] I'm fair sure that you can still find prostitutes on any larger city's main road. It really sounds to me that he didn't care, and I've previously heard how Arab men would establish sexual relationships with younger boys, so seems like a cultural conflict.
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;49716014]I think you're missing something here bud, you said that "As far as I know, they can't commit adultery either, let alone rape, which this man has confessed to both." , and shovel replied back "Rape is OK but only if it's an unveiled woman.". Which is true for Muslims. Now if the guy wasn't a Muslim, of course he wouldn't get away with raping someone like that, but because he's a Muslim, he can rape an unveiled woman only because it's in his religion.[/QUOTE] Are you a real person? What the fuck is wrong with you? [editline]11th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=phygon;49716182]The reason you can blame the culture on the religion is the religion's explicit devaluation of women.[B] The thing is? IS is doing Islam the "right" way(mostly). It's fucked up, but it's true. [/B]Rape culture can come from many things and religion is one of them, that doesn't mean that all rape culture stems from it.[/QUOTE] What the fuck.
See if you're found practicing this you should be sent back to the middle of fucking nowhere and left to fend for yourself. This kind of person has no purpose being in modern society. [editline]11th February 2016[/editline] Or since he's so happy with his shitty ancient beliefs, deal with it shariah style and just chop his dick off so he can't do it again
[QUOTE=Kylel999;49719470]See if you're found practicing this you should be sent back to the middle of fucking nowhere and left to fend for yourself. This kind of person has no purpose being in modern society. [editline]11th February 2016[/editline] Or since he's so happy with his shitty ancient beliefs, deal with it shariah style and just chop his dick off so he can't do it again[/QUOTE] The irony.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;49719470]See if you're found practicing this you should be sent back to the middle of fucking nowhere and left to fend for yourself. This kind of person has no purpose being in modern society. [editline]11th February 2016[/editline] Or since he's so happy with his shitty ancient beliefs, deal with it shariah style and just chop his dick off so he can't do it again[/QUOTE] Yeah mate show those barbarians how civilised we are with barbarism. Sick idea.
islamist Extremists are more dangerous than Pacifist Extremists. Why? Because Islam promotes violence and Pacifism doesn't. I have now proven islamism to be worse than Pacifism. Now we can strive towards Pacifism and reject Islamism. Problem solved.
[QUOTE=Killuah;49719188] What the fuck.[/QUOTE] The Prophet Mohammed and the following four rightly guided Caliphs conquered Persia and much of the former Roman Empire. They enforced Arabic style justice and extracted a tax on non-muslims. Isis does the same. However, the original caliphate also didn't destroy ancient monuments or enslave fellow Muslims ( sects weren't really a thing yet though). They were progressive for their time, as the Prophet had some very enlightened views and they also spread Persian ideas to the west but its 1000+ years later.
[QUOTE=Sprockethead;49719922]islamist Extremists are more dangerous than Pacifist Extremists. Why? Because Islam promotes violence and Pacifism doesn't. I have now proven islamism to be worse than Pacifism. Now we can strive towards Pacifism and reject Islamism. Problem solved.[/QUOTE] The ironic thing about extremism (and im speaking generally) is once you go extreme enough, you end up in the opposite end of the spectrum. Im pretty sure there are cases of of Buddhist extremism of extreme violence. The problem in the middle east right now is the political and social environment heavily encourages extremism.
[QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49715903]Rape is OK but only if it's an unveiled woman.[/QUOTE] uhm no stop getting your sources from shady backalley blogs, but that shits haram as fuck what are you talking about? what logic is that? do you have a direct source on this that isnt from a blogspot or a extremely biased source?
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