[QUOTE=Phycosymo;33395607]what
how is that even possible[/QUOTE]
He plays freeform chess where you're allowed to go off the edges of the board
Bishop A3 to lampshade!
[QUOTE=RaptorBlackz;33397516]Whats the movie where the kid has to vs the machine to stop nuclear warfare and challenges the machine to tic-tac-toe.[/QUOTE]
[i]WarGames[/i].
[QUOTE=Mister B;33396465]I've been studying this for about fifteen minutes.
I am incapable of understanding this.[/QUOTE]
Look at the bottom half of the image (Map For O). Plan a move and zoom in into that square. Notice that the corresponding square in the zoomed area has an X and another square has an O (other person's move). Plan another move and zoom in again into box you chose. Again, there's an X in the corresponding square and an O in another box in addition to the 2 boxes taken in the very first move.
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;33397650][i]WarGames[/i].[/QUOTE]
That movie rocks
Chess can go on infinitely depending on what you consider a turn. If both players are moving their knights backwards and forwards from turn one over and over and over it goes on forever, for as long as you want. But the 3rd turn would be identical to the first so it depends whether you'd count it or not.
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There isn't infinite game states which is more pertinent to making a book of every possible move.
Me want, NAOW
This would definitely be great for like riding the train or flying on an airplane.
Actually I might rage to much to play it in public...
[QUOTE=The BoxDog;33395482]Let's say for sake of argument, you have 1 king, and 1 queen on both sides of the board. and both sides were in on it.
You could move the queens between any two positions untill the [b]end of time[/b] so the game could never end.[/QUOTE]
He means an infinite set of [b]different[/b] moves.
There are pretty much 3 outcomes to any turn-based game out there. If both players respond to each other perfectly, there are only 3 possible outcomes-
1. Starting (white) player always wins
2. Responding (black) player always wins
3. Game ends in a tie. Tie in chess means that there is no possible way to score a checkmate anymore (if, for example, all that remains from the tools are the kings, or if there are only support pieces (knights and pawns) in play).
Tic-Tac-Toe, for example, is known to be the third type-If you learn all the possible moves and all the counters to those moves, there is no way the game will end in anything other than a tie (unless your opponent is brain dead or something).
The reason we don't yet know which outcome belongs to chess is because it is very complicated, and our current computing power cannot handle the complexity of the game perfectly yet.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;33400150]He means an infinite set of [b]different[/b] moves.
There are pretty much 3 outcomes to any turn-based game out there. If both players respond to each other perfectly, there are only 3 possible outcomes-
1. Starting (white) player always wins
2. Responding (black) player always wins
3. Game ends in a tie. Tie in chess means that there is no possible way to score a checkmate anymore (if, for example, all that remains from the tools are the kings, or if there are only support pieces (knights and pawns) in play).
Tic-Tac-Toe, for example, is known to be the third type-If you learn all the possible moves and all the counters to those moves, there is no way the game will end in anything other than a tie (unless your opponent is brain dead or something).
The reason we don't yet know which outcome belongs to chess is because it is very complicated, and our current computing power cannot handle the complexity of the game perfectly yet.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, I don't even know why people were thinking that we meant the same moves, that's just stupid
Their introduction remind me of this
[video=youtube;YhcPX1wVp38]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhcPX1wVp38[/video]
[QUOTE=LtBubbles;33401394]Their introduction remind me of this
[video=youtube;YhcPX1wVp38]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhcPX1wVp38[/video][/QUOTE]
Truly the future of entertainment, it can even handle large detailed colour pictures!
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;33391835]10[sup]120[/sup] pages, if the internet is right.
So, who wants to start writing?[/QUOTE]
I think we need a bigger universe, considering that there are far less elementary particles in it than pages in that book
Haha, I can't imagine how long a book on chess would be.
[QUOTE=crackberry;33401623]Haha, I can't imagine how long a book on chess would be.[/QUOTE]
More like you visualize that many pages in your mind
[QUOTE=kirderf;33401487]I think we need a bigger universe, considering that there are far less elementary particles in it than pages in that book[/QUOTE]
[quote=Frequently Asked Questions Which the Book Will take Its Very Valuable Time in Order To Answer]Q. You may be good at Tic-Tac-Toe but seem to lack friends and have no social life.
A. On the contrary one of my best friends is a chess playing book. However we aren't able to get together as often as I might like due to his mobility issues. Also I do note that this wasn't a question, but more of a statement. However, I answered because I felt sorry for you.[/quote]
:v:
[QUOTE=JustGman;33396403]The only winning move is not to play.[/QUOTE]
[quote=Frequently Asked Questions Which the Book Will take Its Very Valuable Time in Order To Answer]Q. Did you see WarGames?
A. Yes. Matthew Broderick is one of my favorite actors. I'm assuming this is the part where you make some snide comment about "The only winning move is not to play" or some such nonsense. Let me tell you, the WOPR was an idiot.[/quote]
So, it'd take 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 pages.
Neat, that is (rounding the US Debt to 15,000,000,000,000) 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 / 3 US National Debts.
[QUOTE=NorthernGate;33402663]So, it'd take 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 pages.
Neat, that is (rounding the US Debt to 15,000,000,000,000) 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 / 3 US National Debts.[/QUOTE]
That's numberwang
[QUOTE=BlkDucky;33391788]Well, you'd have to have a page for every possible state of the board.
numbers aren't my thing, but I'm willing to bet there's more than 600 billion potential states.[/QUOTE]
8x 8 = 64 tiles. 32 at most are occupied
64C32 gives us all the combinations possible for occupied tiles vs non-occupied.
So, now that we have all the houses possible for the pieces to be in, we'll multiply that by how many ways the pieces can be in the occupied houses. In the first house, there can be 32 pieces (not really, but let's go for an estimate), the second house, 31 pieces, the third, 30, multiply all that: 32!
482219923991114978843459072919892677776312893440000000
This assumes that any piece can be in any tile (not true for bishops, for example) but it also only counts how many possible ways you can spread the 32 pieces in the tray. It does NOT reflect a string of moves. Because otherwise, you'd have a sum of ll the possible ways for 32 pieces, then 31, then 30, etc. etc.
So, it'd end up much, much bigger. You can do this but it takes a whle and I can't be arsed to do it.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;33400150]3. Game ends in a tie. Tie in chess means that there is no possible way to score a checkmate anymore (if, for example, all that remains from the tools are the kings, or if there are only support pieces (knights and pawns) in play).[/QUOTE]
you can win with just a pawn, and I believe you can force mate with 3+ knights and king vs king
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