• Do Dogs Think?
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They do. It was proven a thousand times, it's biologically explainable, they do.
[QUOTE=Fangz;41406231] Dogs not only think, they can remember.[/QUOTE] And manipulate even the smartest of people to get what they want.
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Wasn't there a paper from Cambridge that found that most mammals have the necessary structures to facilitate conscious thought, ambition and planning? Edit: [url]http://io9.com/5937356/prominent-scientists-sign-declaration-that-animals-have-conscious-awareness-just-like-us[/url] Yup
my dog thinks it's fucking hysterical to hump everybody's leg when they're carrying food or come up to our windows when its like 2am and bark at the neighbor's dog ffs
Of course they can think, my dog had his water bowl spilled on his head 4 years ago, since then, he backs away if you pick up the water bowl. And if he needs to do a toilet run in the garden, he'll paw at your chest to wake you up.
my dog thinks his reflection is another dog
[QUOTE=TheHydra;41407637]my dog thinks his reflection is another dog[/QUOTE] I imagine you get similar responses from babies.
Don't care what anyone says, dogs must be one of the most human like creatures in the way they behave and each have their own personalities and bond with people.
[QUOTE=sgman91;41405070]Training through repetition does not require thinking.[/QUOTE] Even if it's through repetition, you need to remember that it was repeated to begin with, and in order to remember something you have to have thought something. For example if you're teaching a dog how to sit, the dog remembers that "sit" means for him to do such that. Yes, it's a repetitive method of teaching, but regardless he remembers what the term means.
What this debate really is is whether or not dogs have cognitive thought. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognition[/url] The article just sucks ass.
This must one of those most non-article articles I've ever seen...
[QUOTE=sgman91;41405058]How do you define being able to remember. I don't think dogs can actively call memories.[/QUOTE] Dogs are able to suffer from PTSD, and it's been witnessed on several occasions related to bomb dogs. [URL]http://www.npr.org/2013/03/11/173812785/four-legged-warriors-show-signs-of-ptsd[/URL] < page regarding the subject
This is also like the question "Do dogs dream?" The fact that while they sleep they start twitching and barking is similar to us talking in our sleep. To say that they don't do either of those is dumb however i think the level of depth they think is up for debate.
I think they are, at least on some level. Whenever we looked after my neighbors dog, if my parents went out she would sit and look at the door and whine, she'd get genuinely distressed if she didn't have someone she could follow around and cuddle up to. On the note of dogs and humans, there are some very interesting documentaries on Netflix about both the biology and the behavior of dogs, especially how they have come extremely dependent on humans and do actually look to us for cues or guidance if they are stuck/confused. Cats as well, I don't know exactly where you draw the line with what requires 'thinking' and what doesn't, but one of my girlfriends cats learned to open the door by itself, by pulling the handle. Animals in general are also capable of backing down from a fight or 'deciding' to quit at what they are doing, wouldn't that be considered a form of thinking? If they are dynamically evaluating situations and changing their behavior because of it.
[QUOTE=sgman91;41405058]How do you define being able to remember. I don't think dogs can actively call memories.[/QUOTE] They can. They remember people. And are unusually happy to see people they know after not having seen each other for a while. And I have a feeling that all animals think to an extent, but also rely on instincts more than humans and also depending on the animal species. But still dude, dogs are not vegetables.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;41407837]I imagine you get similar responses from babies.[/QUOTE] Funny enough, dolphins and apes can recognize themselves in mirrors, and they are among the only ones who can.
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From my experience I'd say so. My dog sometimes cries in her sleep (it's the saddest fucking thing to listen to) and that's probably because of issues she had when she was only a puppy. She also has extreme anxiety around any other dog (even dogs half her size!), yet when we taught her to get along with my step-dad's dog she wouldn't go mental around him. It might not be thinking but rather being taught a familiar face to treat with respect, but I guess I'm not sure.
They eat their own vomit, so I highly doubt there being much thinking in their heads.
My dog starts to stress a little when we walk past anywhere he got mauled.
I had a stare down with a my dog once, I was keeping him in an area where he had to pee. There was only one way out. So we commence stare down, for a few seconds. Then the little scum bag runs to the right and escapes narrowly.
Define thinking. Most animals lack the ability to abstract/reason through problems or situations. And I say most, as Dolphins and monkeys have shown to be able to use tools/objects foreign to their body in order to help themselves with eating. I had this very interesting psychology class a couple of years ago where we saw different viewpoints on animals. I recall one point being that dogs would just act based on needs and nothing more. I always wonder if they have shown to be altruistic.. [QUOTE] My dog starts to stress a little when we walk past anywhere he got mauled. [/QUOTE] Ah, this is also extremely interesting, I recommend reading it. Applies to both humans (in some way) and dogs: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Pavlov[/url] [QUOTE]They remember people[/QUOTE] But not in the same way we do remember people. We remember face, body characteristics, language, speech tone/voice, etc etc. Wolves for example remember you by scent. If you take a shower or change clothes from the moment you met them...they will just "forget you" and you would be taken as one more stranger. Check out this dude who kinda "lived" with wolves....
my dog is too stupid to think. all she does is "destroy everything in the house" or "shit everywhere in the house" she wont fucking play with her toys outside and wont shit outside no matter how many times i smack the shit out of her.
[QUOTE=Balphagore;41405795]Well, we're thinking. Why don't we lick our butts?[/QUOTE] We're not flexible enough, but [U]sometimes[/U], you [I]can[/I] manage to get someone else to lick yours for you.
[QUOTE=Balphagore;41405795]Well, we're thinking. Why don't we lick our butts?[/QUOTE] cant reach
[QUOTE=K5;41423930]my dog is too stupid to think. all she does is "destroy everything in the house" or "shit everywhere in the house" she wont fucking play with her toys outside and wont shit outside no matter how many times i smack the shit out of her.[/QUOTE] "Smack the shit out of her"? Sounds like a great teaching method.:downs:
[QUOTE=K5;41423930]my dog is too stupid to think. all she does is "destroy everything in the house" or "shit everywhere in the house" she wont fucking play with her toys outside and wont shit outside no matter how many times i smack the shit out of her.[/QUOTE] This article, I don't know if dogs think. However, [i]I[/i] think you're an asshole.
My 6 week old puppy ran out of food in its bowl so it picked it up and brought it to us so we could fill it. We've also only had him at our house for 3 nights, so it's not like he's trained in it.
[QUOTE=K5;41423930]my dog is too stupid to think. all she does is "destroy everything in the house" or "shit everywhere in the house" she wont fucking play with her toys outside and wont shit outside no matter how many times i smack the shit out of her.[/QUOTE] All your posts have been quality.
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