Theresa May announces snap general election on June 8
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Really fucked how when people wanted a general election immediately after the Brexit, before article 50 was triggered or any hasty decisions were made, we were told "the Fixed Terms Parliament Act" tied their hands and "we can only do one every 5 years guys sorry :~)"
But now that Brexit is done and the UK is more splintered than ever, leaving Tory opposition in absolute shambles, May can just pull a 'snap' election out of nowhere just over a month in advance?
I mean honestly this was expected, I half expected them to pull this last year but it seems they decided to wait until after article 50.
It's going to be fun watching the corbynites cry after labour get annihilated, it's what they get for being so arrogant and trying to force labour into the hard left.
[QUOTE=Fr3ddi3;52119927]Seems this was in the wrong thread so ill repost my feelings
I should be jumping for fucking joy at the chance of ousting that hag from Number 10, but it's not gonna happen and she fucking knows it, hence the vote litterally coming out of no where.
No one is gonna vote labour
Scotland will waste it's entie vote on the SNP
NI will vote Sinn Fein
Wales and England, left to vote on scraps, Liberals, Labour, Greens , fucking ukip.
And NONE of us get anything we want.
Meanwhile everyone with money in the UK votes Tories, and as a result they fucking walk into power yet again, because each and every single opposition party are floundering sellf serving agenda driven arseholes that do nothing but split the opposition vote. the SNP will give us the usual bollocks of Scotland being dragged around and not being represented and will push for another referendum this snap GE is litterally the best thing they could ask for. Corbyn leaves labour and the rest of those pricks will infight for another decade over direction when half of them ought to just don a blue fucking tie and and stop masquerading, So on and so on.
Yeah so fuck everything about this.
- i reserve the right to change my mind if circumstances change but presently, i just dont see it.[/QUOTE]
Voting for the SNP is definitely not a waste for Scottish people if you are left leaning, they are the only thing protecting us from being fucked by the conservatives even if they aren't perfect themselves
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52120048]I mean honestly this was expected, I half expected them to pull this last year but it seems they decided to wait until after article 50.
It's going to be fun watching the corbynites cry after labour get annihilated, it's what they get for being so arrogant and trying to force labour into the hard left.[/QUOTE]
What is it exactly about Corbyn's politics that makes you hate Labour so much?
He's all for helping the working class, the disabled, the NHS, and generally seems to care about people.
I'd pick that over eternal Tory rule any day, but I guess that makes me arrogant and worthy of 'annihilation' to you.
[QUOTE=Tacooo;52120052]Voting for the SNP is definitely not a waste for Scottish people if you are left leaning, they are the only thing protecting us from being fucked by the conservatives even if they aren't perfect themselves[/QUOTE]
My overall opinion of the SNP is they're / voting for them is a self fulfilling prophecy. But this is gonna divert the thread in a direction / into a discussion I do not want to have becuase honestly, im upset, angry and irrational.
Fucking Tories are casuing my family who depend on the NHS for their lives, alot of fucking grief. So im not in the right frame of mind to talk about this further, i might respond but i might not depends if i can sideline my feelings to be rational or not.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52120048]I mean honestly this was expected, I half expected them to pull this last year but it seems they decided to wait until after article 50.
It's going to be fun watching the corbynites cry after labour get annihilated, it's what they get for being so arrogant and trying to force labour into the hard left.[/QUOTE]
Didn't you vote for Corbyn? Maybe I'm remembering the wrong person.
[QUOTE=Morgen;52120106]Didn't you vote for Corbyn? Maybe I'm remembering the wrong person.[/QUOTE]
Nope, not a labour party member.
[editline]18th April 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Menien Goneld;52120088]What is it exactly about Corbyn's politics that makes you hate Labour so much?
He's all for helping the working class, the disabled, the NHS, and generally seems to care about people.
I'd pick that over eternal Tory rule any day, but I guess that makes me arrogant and worthy of 'annihilation' to you.[/QUOTE]
Just caring about people isn't enough, he has no actual solid policy what so ever, he's just a moaner who criticises thing and then has no actual solutions. And of course when everything goes to shit he just blames the media like Trump, except he has none of the charisma.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52120120]Nope, not a labour party member.
[editline]18th April 2017[/editline]
Just caring about people isn't enough, he has no actual solid policy what so ever, he's just a moaner who criticises thing and then has no actual solutions. And of course when everything goes to shit he just blames the media like Trump, except he has none of the charisma.[/QUOTE]
Urgghhhhhhhh... [url]http://www.labour.org.uk/index.php/10-pledges[/url]
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;52119729]Has Brexit backfired already?[/QUOTE]
Just ask David Cameron.
What's with the flak against Corbyn? Been kept out of the loop. Kinda liked his policies.
[QUOTE=Kazumi;52120210]What's with the flak against Corbyn? Been kept out of the loop. Kinda liked his policies.[/QUOTE]
Corbyn being bad is a political meme. He's... low energy, but for the most part he is ripped on just because he is ripped on. Unfortunately that's pretty much a death sentence​ in a democracy.
This is basically securing Tory rule for an extra two years, maybe more.
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;52120343]This is basically securing Tory rule for an extra two years, maybe more.[/QUOTE]
5 years mate. Wouldn't be another election till 2022.
[QUOTE=Occlusion;52120348]5 years mate. Wouldn't be another election till 2022.[/QUOTE]
wtf this is fucked up
[QUOTE=Shadow801;52120351]wtf this is fucked up[/QUOTE]
why?
[QUOTE=Kazumi;52120210]What's with the flak against Corbyn? Been kept out of the loop. Kinda liked his policies.[/QUOTE]
He doesn't play the media game well and even though most people support his policies everyone says he has no policies.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52120120]Nope, not a labour party member.
[editline]18th April 2017[/editline]
Just caring about people isn't enough, he has no actual solid policy what so ever, he's just a moaner who criticises thing and then has no actual solutions. And of course when everything goes to shit he just blames the media like Trump, except he has none of the charisma.[/QUOTE]
Don't you hate the tories? Who do you support? Because the tories will be in power for a generation at this rate.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;52120364]why?[/QUOTE]
Why can they just randomly call an election at a time of their choosing, allowing them to extend their term by 5 years? This does not seem democratic at all. If the opposition votes again it makes them look happy to be in opposition, so they must vote for it. It's easy to win by calling an election at the right time
This is game playing again by the tories. Brexit is a result of their game playing as well
They only care about their power and manipulate everything to only serve themselves, not the people they are supposed to represent.
Strikes me that the Tories are partly trying to save their own necks by calling a GE before they lose their majority when the CPS charges 20 or more of their MPs with electoral fraud for 2015. If this happened in another country, we'd be calling it corrupt.
The best anyone who is against the Tories can really do at this point is try to vote them out of marginal constituencies and hope something pulls through regarding electoral fraud ASAP.
May is an incompetent and self-contradictory zealot but I fear we're stuck with her authoritarian 'whims of the Daily Mail'-style governance for the timebeing.
[QUOTE=Shadow801;52120380]Why can they just randomly call an election at a time of their choosing, allowing them to extend their term by 5 years? This does not seem democratic at all. If the opposition votes again it makes them look happy to be in opposition, so they must vote for it. It's easy to win by calling an election at the right time
This is game playing again by the tories. Brexit is a result of their game playing as well
They only care about their power and manipulate everything to only serve themselves, not the people they are supposed to represent.[/QUOTE]
it is not the tory's fault that labour are offering no decent opposition
[QUOTE=Fr3ddi3;52120093]My overall opinion of the SNP is they're / voting for them is a self fulfilling prophecy. But this is gonna divert the thread in a direction / into a discussion I do not want to have becuase honestly, im upset, angry and irrational.
Fucking Tories are casuing my family who depend on the NHS for their lives, alot of fucking grief. So im not in the right frame of mind to talk about this further, i might respond but i might not depends if i can sideline my feelings to be rational or not.[/QUOTE]
Strangely, I voted for the SNP for the exact same reasons, they increased the healthcare budget by £500 million (admittedly to the detriment of local council funding), more small town clinics and Pharmacies in rural areas of Scotland are remaining open and my mother doesn't need to travel much for medication to relieve the pain of her degenerative spine condition. These days the SNP are the only ones I feel like I can trust with that responsibility, LibDem's shattered any remaining trust I had for the big parties in 2010.
Still, I don't want to argue either, I can understand the dislike for the SNP especially if you feel like they're putting your families health at risk. I grew up in the Borders and used to hate them with a passion myself, Salmond always struck me as somebody who only really cared about the central belt and the North - 'real Scotland', not us half English choochter bastards in the south.
[QUOTE=r0b0tsquid;52120282]Corbyn being bad is a political meme. He's... low energy, but for the most part he is ripped on just because he is ripped on. Unfortunately that's pretty much a death sentence​ in a democracy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HighOnSinz;52120368]He doesn't play the media game well and even though most people support his policies everyone says he has no policies.[/QUOTE]
Huh. Shame.
TBH the Lib dem student fiasco was bad, but in government they were a nice leverage that kept the Tories somewhat in check. I just wonder how long people can hate them after what Labour and Conservatives have done over the years: [url]https://whatthehellhavethelibdemsdone.com/#29[/url]
[QUOTE=Shadow801;52120380]Why can they just randomly call an election at a time of their choosing, allowing them to extend their term by 5 years? [B]This does not seem democratic at all.[/B] If the opposition votes again it makes them look happy to be in opposition, so they must vote for it. It's easy to win by calling an election at the right time
This is game playing again by the tories. Brexit is a result of their game playing as well
They only care about their power and manipulate everything to only serve themselves, not the people they are supposed to represent.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;52120374]Don't you hate the tories? Who do you support? Because the tories will be in power for a generation at this rate.[/QUOTE]
I'll probably vote lib dem, although labour will win in my constituency regardless. Labour could put up a mannequin here and it'd still win
[editline]18th April 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Shadow801;52120169]Urgghhhhhhhh... [url]http://www.labour.org.uk/index.php/10-pledges[/url][/QUOTE]
His policies are literally just pulling money off the magic money tree I presume he must have if this is what he plans to do.
Same, I'll vote Lib Dem. For as "ineffectual" as they were back when we had the Coalition government, they were still pretty good considering. Besides, I'm not sure if their time in the Coalition is enough to judge their effectiveness, given the restrictions they had to abide by.
Give them a full term as the leading party, and then we'll see what they're truly capable of. Besides, anything's better than the current borderline illegitimate Tory leadership. Anything to get Theresa May and her dry joyless cunts out of power.
I'll probably also be voting Lib Dem, though it feels like it's pointless since i'm living in a Conservative safe seat with UKIP in second place.
I wouldn't mind seeing all of those red blotches on the map turn yellow this election.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52120459]I'll probably vote lib dem, although labour will win in my constituency regardless. Labour could put up a mannequin here and it'd still win
[editline]18th April 2017[/editline]
His policies are literally just pulling money off the magic money tree I presume he must have if this is what he plans to do.[/QUOTE]
You have fallen for the tory propaganda that suggests that we have no money and that austerity is the only way forward. This has been disproven in multiple studies.
The tories believe that rather than investing in our economy and infrastructure we should give corporations tax cuts in the hope that their savings will 'trickle-down'.
Well I'm certainly being trickled-down onto by corporations, but not with money.
[QUOTE=alexisgondor;52120487]I'll probably also be voting Lib Dem, though it feels like it's pointless since i'm living in a Conservative safe seat with UKIP in second place.[/QUOTE]
I think I'm safe in my choice, since last I checked my area is very much in the Lib Dem camp.
Though might I ask which nightmarish district you're stuck in that is Tory-dominated, with UKIP worms wriggling around the seat?
[QUOTE=Shadow801;52120503]The tories believe that rather than investing in our economy and infrastructure we should give corporations tax cuts in the hope that their savings will 'trickle-down'.
Well I'm certainly being trickled-down onto by corporations, but not with money.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;52120492]I wouldn't mind seeing all of those red blotches on the map turn yellow this election.[/QUOTE]
Oooh Matron.
Though in all seriousness, if we can't scrub the blue out of the majority, we might all end up stained yellow by the end of the decade.
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