• Texas School Board is at it again: wants to remove Muslim bias in textbooks.
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I thought texas was advance or something. I mean they made my goddamn graphic calculator.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;24850273]If you're American it's highly doubtful that your textbook mentioned the first world war at all. Even so, by 15 you should have a knowledge of it anyways, school or not.[/QUOTE] My highschool "History" classes were broken up as follows: Freshman year: Geography (Talked about various countries geography, and history) Sophomore year: World History (self explanatory, Went from the beginning of recorded history to some time in the 15-1600s depending on your teacher, skimmed over a lot of stuff probably.) Junior year: American History (self explanatory, Talked about the history of the United States.) Senior year: Government and Economics. (Self explanatory) As far as I know, most of Texas has the same layout.
[QUOTE=OvB;24850425]My highschool "History" classes were broken up as follows: Freshman year: Geography (Talked about various countries geography, and history) Sophomore year: World History (self explanatory, Went from the beginning of recorded history to some time in the 15-1600s depending on your teacher, skimmed over a lot of stuff probably.) Junior year: American History (self explanatory, Talked about the history of the United States.) Senior year: Government and Economics. (Self explanatory) As far as I know, most of Texas has the same layout.[/QUOTE] Same here, except World History went up to the end of the Cold War (I lived in Fort Worth) All were AP except for geography. I have a feeling I know who suggested this: "The way I evaluate history textbooks is first I see how they cover Christianity and Israel. Then I see how they treat Ronald Reagan—he needs to get credit for [U][U]saving the world from communism[/U][/U] and for the good economy over the last twenty years because he lowered taxes"- Don Mcleroy, Texas SBoE District 9
[QUOTE=Afgman;24850265]Like I said pics or it did not happen.[/QUOTE] When it speaks of the creation of Islam. There is an entire unit on it. It not once mentions any kind of violent actions committed by Mohammed, in fact, the book says that the government of Mecca kicked Mohammed out of the city, then Mohammed went to Medina and formed a peaceful march on Mecca, taking control. [img]http://images.bestwebbuys.com/muze/books/94/9780030533594.jpg[/img] My curriculum was different. I had Geography in 7th grade, US history in 8th, World history in 9th, and AP World in 10th, AP US in 11th, and finally AP US Government in 12th. My teacher took us from beginning of recorded history to the end of the cold war.
[QUOTE=Afgman;24850389]I thought texas was advance or something. I mean they made my goddamn graphic calculator.[/QUOTE] We have a lot of smart people here: NASA, Computer companies, the Air Force, etc. It's just religion makes a few people (who happen to have "power") potential bigots.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;24850273][B]If you're American it's highly doubtful that your textbook mentioned the first world war at all.[/B] Even so, by 15 you should have a knowledge of it anyways, school or not.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://cdn1.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/039/101/original/Asinine-America-HATERS-GONNA-HATE.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;24850458]When it speaks of the creation of Islam. There is an entire unit on it. It not once mentions any kind of violent actions committed by Mohammed, in fact, the book says that the government of Mecca kicked Mohammed out of the city, then Mohammed went to Medina and formed a peaceful march on Mecca, taking control. [img]http://images.bestwebbuys.com/muze/books/94/9780030533594.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] The Gov. of Mecca did chase out Mohammad and his life was in danger so he went to Medina. Muhammad began to prepare for a campaign.[146] In 630, Muhammad marched on Mecca with an enormous force, said to number more than ten thousand men. With minimal casualties, Muhammad took control of Mecca.[147] Notice Minimal casualties.
[QUOTE=jeimizu;24850350]Most states that border Texas use the books that Texas approves to save money.[/QUOTE] brb, getting the fuck out of the south
Get to Maryland and you'll be good.
Fuck it, move to Sweden :sweden:
[QUOTE=Afgman;24850568]The Gov. of Mecca did chase out Mohammad and his life was in danger so he went to Medina. Muhammad began to prepare for a campaign.[146] In 630, Muhammad marched on Mecca with an enormous force, said to number more than ten thousand men. With minimal casualties, Muhammad took control of Mecca.[147] Notice Minimal casualties.[/QUOTE] Now that I remember, I never actually read from the textbook so just ignore me.
[QUOTE=jeimizu;24850688]Fuck it, move to Sweden :sweden:[/QUOTE] on second thought, im going to the land of my ancestors [img]http://www.33ff.com/flags/S_flags/flags_of_Ireland.gif[/img] in all seriousness im gonna move the first chance i get since i'm fucking bored of this place anyways
Texas and Arizona are beginning to make up offenses in order to justify attacks on peaceful religions, minorities, nationalities, and political movements that they don't approve of. It's a bad time to be an American.
Worse time to be a Muslim!
[QUOTE=Habsburg;24850908]Worse time to be a Muslim![/QUOTE] Agreed. Everyone should just calm down about all this religious stuff. The more hate that goes around the worse off the world will be.
[QUOTE=Habsburg;24849894]I don't remember any reading any muslim bias...[/QUOTE] "Muslim bias" in Texas is anything that doesn't designate all Muslims as terrorists and evil.
Odyssey Through The Ages, Newman/DeGeer Anyone taking an Ancient civilizations course in a public school in Ontario can back me up. First couple pages basically talk about geography and climate and pre-Islamic civilizations. Here's a funny excerpt: [I]"...when states were weak pastoralists (pastoral nomads as it earlier defines them) tried to [B]appropriate[/B] villages [B]surpluses[/B] to themselves".[/I] So in essentially whitewashed language they stole from villages, this is the first subtle mention of any violence in the middle east. After Muhammad goes to Medina, it refers to the period of raids and battles in this sentence: [I]"Now with a political base, the community of Muslims continued to grow."[/I] Grow... which could mean just about anything to bright-eyed highschool students ignorant of everything. Of course Muhammad didn't conquer Mecca, as right after this sentence: [I]"By the time of his death, Muhammad had brought [B]into the fold of Islam[/B] not only his former adversaries at Mecca, but also most of the pastoral nomadic tribes of Arabia."[/I] So according to this book, Muhammad started a religion, moved to Medina, his religion now had a [I]political base[/I] and it [I]grew[/I], until Mecca was [I]brought into the fold of Islam.[/I] Then, on top of all this, it then says: [I][B]"Muhammad's success is attributable to the power of his message, to his personal charisma, and to his remarkable qualities of leadership and integrity.[/B][/I] These are three consecutive sentences describing the rise of Islam. I'm sure as a Muslim know what's been left out, even if you agree with it or whatever, you have to admit the history has been left out. Just as a note, as 3 pages later when it starts to mention empires, it refers to the Crusades and the ongoing Christian reconquest of Spain in this sentence in the Islamic Philosophy section (Under the big box about Sufism). [I]"In the defensive mood of the late-medieval Islamic world provoked in part by the Crusades and the ongoing Christian reconquest of Spain, royal patronage for philosophers dried up and religious scholars tightened their grip on intellectual life."[/I] Now, onto the first mention of Muslim violence, which is says: [I]"Under the caliphs, forbidden by Islam from internal raiding, turned [B]their energies outward[/B] against the weakened and debilitated Persian and Byzantine Empires."[/I] No mention of extortion letters previously sent by Muhammad. It doesn't even refer to what they did as violent acts, but [I]turning their energies outward[/I]. Later on the same page it says: [I]"Later the Islamic conquests were extended westward into North Africa and Spain, and eastward into Central Asia and India."[/I] What Islamic conquests? This is the first time we hear about these Islamic conquests, 8 pages into the unit, after already talking about [B]Christian reconquests.[/B] Soon it again refers to Meccans, who apparently "agreed to accept Islam", but doesn't state anything about the terms or the situation. A few pages later we are shown an image of the old world showing how far Islam has [I]expanded[/I], although it makes careful note to point out which areas that Christians [I]reconquered.[/I] Now it goes in-depth about the crusades a page later, saying: [I]"The Crusades were launched in 1096 by relatively small numbers of Frankish knights in a [B]papal-inspired[/B] bid to regain the holy land (Palestine) for Christendom. The explanation for the Crusades lies less the the Middle East than in Europe from whence they came."[/I] So no mention of Byzantium's pleas for help against Muslim invaders, just the Pope up and decided to regain the holy land, specifically Palestine, a word which wouldn't be invented until almost a millennia later. Also it makes sure to point out [I]"the Crusaders' atrocities (such as their massacre of Muslims and Jews in conquered Jerusalem)."[/I] Not saying this didn't happen, it did, and there are no excuses for it, but there has been not one word of Islamic violence up to this point. Next, Reconquesta, in which the Christians retook Spain, which of course was [B]never invaded by the Moors[/B], but rather [I]established by an Umayyad prince in Cordoba.[/I] And that [I]"Spain subsequently became an important Islamic-Arab civilization, in contrast to the [B]Frankish barbarism that prevailed north of the Pyrenees."[/B][/I] Muslims were civilized, Christians were barbarians. It goes on for a dozen more pages or so, basically all the same bullshit, Saladin was the most gracious, noble, and chivalrous man to have ever lived. This is certainly Muslims bias if I've ever seen it. Also fixed a number of typos.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24850304]And already you have proven you don't know what you're talking about[/QUOTE] I was obviously stretching the truth a bit, the point being US history classes are lacking. And I wasn't trying to relate the muslim crusades to WWI if that's what you're thinking, I see where that could have been a mix up.
I hate the Texas Education Agency. I hate them. There is no better word for this. [highlight]HATE[/highlight] How DARE these people inject their fucking POLITICAL VIEWS into education. How dare they skew knowledge for half of the nation an entire generation. These people are the definition of scum. They are stealing that which is truly sacred to all men, their knowledge. They are injecting the FILTH that runs through their minds into an entire generation. I cannot begin to express the pure hatred I have for these pathetic souls. Have you ever seen the offended page on ED? That, a million times over, is not even approaching what these pathetic excuses for Americans deserve. Get out of my country, you... GOD! There is no word for this.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;24850701]Now that I remember, I never actually read from the textbook so just ignore me.[/QUOTE] It's ok brah everyones opinion has a meaning to it. [QUOTE=ASmellyOgreV2;24851219]I hate the Texas Education Agency. I hate them. There is no better word for this. [highlight]HATE[/highlight] How DARE these people inject their fucking POLITICAL VIEWS into education. How dare they skew knowledge for half of the nation an entire generation. These people are the definition of scum. They are stealing that which is truly sacred to all men, their knowledge. They are injecting the FILTH that runs through their minds into an entire generation. I cannot begin to express the pure hatred I have for these pathetic souls. Have you ever seen the offended page on ED? That, a million times over, is not even approaching what these pathetic excuses for Americans deserve. Get out of my country, you... GOD! There is no word for this.[/QUOTE] Come on dude it is not that bad?
[QUOTE=Afgman;24851243]Come on dude it is not that bad?[/QUOTE] No, they really are that bad. They are denying a good education in history to their state and, because most states copy from Texas and California and California is not reprinting this cycle, most of the United States. An entire generation of a culture is going to learn such a horribly biased vision of history because a few dumbfucks don't like how history played out.
[QUOTE=The golden;24851463]I often get asked by people in Washington state if I live in a frozen wasteland. ( I live in Vancouver, which is only a few short hours from the border with WA.) If you ask me, the education system(s) in the USA are already lacking.[/QUOTE] I know. It is the single largest weak point in the US. If the education system was fixed, many of our other problems would follow. That makes it an even worse offense to screw up the educational system.
[QUOTE=The golden;24851463]I often get asked by people in Washington state if I live in a frozen wasteland. ( I live in Vancouver, which is only a few short hours from the border with WA.) If you ask me, the education system(s) in the USA are already lacking.[/QUOTE] I might agree with you if Canada mattered
[QUOTE=Afgman;24850265]Like I said pics or it did not happen.[/QUOTE] My history books didn't mention any muslim bias.
[QUOTE=The golden;24851463]I often get asked by people in Washington state if I live in a frozen wasteland. ( I live in Vancouver, which is only a few short hours from the border with WA.) If you ask me, the education system(s) in the USA are already lacking.[/QUOTE] or it's a constant joke? It is with my american friends.
Glad I live near Chicago instead. Wait, that means I'll get shot if I step out of my front door.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;24851816]Glad I live near Chicago instead. Wait, that means I'll get shot if I step out of my front door.[/QUOTE] And I live in LA, which means I'll get stabbed if I wander from the rich people's commute route.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;24851881]And I live in LA, which means I'll get stabbed if I wander from the rich people's commute route.[/QUOTE] At least you can get to your back yard without drawing fire.
Glad I live in Florida, where the weaker children get eaten by predators from the swamp.
[QUOTE=The golden;24852083]Aren't we edgy.[/QUOTE] It's true
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