Texas School Board is at it again: wants to remove Muslim bias in textbooks. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=PelPix123;25053771]This pisses me off. It's [I]not[/I] bias. We really [I]were[/I] gigantic dicks all throughout history. That "sanitized" definition of jihad is the [U]original[/U] definition of jihad. The definition of jihad that involves suicide bombing people was invented by islamic extremists.[/QUOTE] Care to show us how this is true? I'm tired of showing all the evidence that proves how wrong you are, I'd like for once to see what you think you have that backs up the validity of your claim. [editline]01:50PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;25067388]It only stated the positive aspects of Muslim religion, and tried to convince us that Muslims are all generous and tolerant people. I'm not saying that Muslims can't be good people, but Islam isn't exactly the most peaceful religion in existence..[/QUOTE] I'll reiterate my high-school's version of the rise of Islam. Here is again Muhammad's life starting from Medina (before Medina most of his followers were family, he was like a Fred Phelps on ancient Arabia): [quote]Now with a political base, the community of Muslims continued to grow. By the time of his death, Muhammad had brought into the fold of Islam not only his former adversaries at Mecca, but also most of the pastoral nomadic tribes of Arabia. Muhammad's success is attributable to the power of his message, to his personal charisma, and to his remarkable qualities of leadership and integrity.[/quote] That is it. No battles, no assassinations or rapes, no genocides, this was the Muslim history that was presented to us.

:golfclap: Bravo, Texas.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;25067388]It only stated the positive aspects of Muslim religion, and tried to convince us that Muslims are all generous and tolerant people. I'm not saying that Muslims can't be good people, but Islam isn't exactly the most peaceful religion in existence..[/QUOTE] You're a Christian right? You and I both know I can pull out some of the most horrible things ever written out of the bible.

[QUOTE=OleWally;25068166]Care to show us how this is true? I'm tired of showing all the evidence that proves how wrong you are, I'd like for once to see what you think you have that backs up the validity of your claim.[/QUOTE] Jihad was never originally used for fighting or combat. After Muhammad's death it began to be used in a purely military sense.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;25067388]It only stated the positive aspects of Muslim religion, and tried to convince us that Muslims are all generous and tolerant people. I'm not saying that Muslims can't be good people, but Islam isn't exactly the most peaceful religion in existence..[/QUOTE] As if christians are such a nice bunch.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;25068447]Jihad was never originally used for fighting or combat. After Muhammad's death it began to be used in a purely military sense.[/QUOTE] Source? [editline]03:00PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Warhol;25068429]You're a Christian right? You and I both know I can pull out some of the most horrible things ever written out of the bible.[/QUOTE] 30 years war: approx 8 million killed All other Crusades: approx 300,000 killed Massacres in the First Crusade: approx 200,000 killed Albigensian Crusade: approx 200,000 killed Witch Trials: approx 60,000 killed Saint Bartholomew's Day Massacre: approx 40,000 killed Spanish Inquisition: approx 15,000 killed The Troubles: approx 1,800 civilians killed Portugeuse Inquisition: approx 1,200 killed Roman Inquisition: approx 1,000 killed Total: approx 8,819,000 Insurgency in South Thailand: approx 3,500 killed Noakhali and Tippera Genocide: approx 5,000 killed Nasserite occupation of Yemen: approx 5,000 killed Chhotaa Ghallooghaaraa: approx 7,000 killed Islamic Republic of Iran postrevolution: approx 8,000 killed Black September in Jordan: approx 10,000 killed Zilan Valley massacre: approx 15,000 killed Massacre at Hama: approx 20,000 killed 1860 Maronite Massacres: approx 20,000 killed Wadda Ghalughara: approx 25,000 killed Adana Massacre: approx 30,000 killed Baathist suppression of Shi'a: approx 50,000 killed Islamic Insurgency in Mindanao: Approx 60,000 killed Dersim Genocide: approx 70,000 killed Bor Massacre: Approx 86,000 Killed Hamidian massacres: approx 90,000 killed Other Modern Islamic terror and seperatism: approx 100,000 killed Genocide in West Papua: approx 100,000 killed Democide in Algeria: approx 150,000 killed Genocide of al-Anfal: approx 180,000 killed Genocide in East Timor: approx 200,000 killed Genocide of Greeks during the war of independance: at least 250,000 killed Genocide in Darfur: approx 300,000 killed Democide in Indonesia: approx 400,000 killed Genocide in Southern Sudan: approx 400,000 killed Democide in Uganda: approx 500,000 killed Barbary Corsair raids: approx 1,000,000 killed and enslaved Genocide of Bengladeshi Hindus: at least 1,000,000 killed Genocide of Sikhs and Hindus during the partition of India: at least 1,500,000 killed Genocide of Armenian, Assyrian and Coptic Christians and Alevi Kurds by Turkey: approx 2,200,000 killed Biafran genocide: approx 3,000,000 killed And then between 632 and 1858: 10,000,000 Buddhists 60,000,000 African and middle eastern Christians 80,000,000 Hindus 120,000,000 African animists and shamanists Muslim total: approx. 281,784,500

Remove the Christian bias.

[QUOTE=OleWally;25070168]Source? [editline]03:00PM[/editline] 30 years war: approx 8 million killed All other Crusades: approx 300,000 killed Massacres in the First Crusade: approx 200,000 killed Albigensian Crusade: approx 200,000 killed Witch Trials: approx 60,000 killed Saint Bartholomew's Day Massacre: approx 40,000 killed Spanish Inquisition: approx 15,000 killed The Troubles: approx 1,800 civilians killed Portugeuse Inquisition: approx 1,200 killed Roman Inquisition: approx 1,000 killed Total: approx 8,819,000 Insurgency in South Thailand: approx 3,500 killed Noakhali and Tippera Genocide: approx 5,000 killed Nasserite occupation of Yemen: approx 5,000 killed Chhotaa Ghallooghaaraa: approx 7,000 killed Islamic Republic of Iran postrevolution: approx 8,000 killed Black September in Jordan: approx 10,000 killed Zilan Valley massacre: approx 15,000 killed Massacre at Hama: approx 20,000 killed 1860 Maronite Massacres: approx 20,000 killed Wadda Ghalughara: approx 25,000 killed Adana Massacre: approx 30,000 killed Baathist suppression of Shi'a: approx 50,000 killed Islamic Insurgency in Mindanao: Approx 60,000 killed Dersim Genocide: approx 70,000 killed Bor Massacre: Approx 86,000 Killed Hamidian massacres: approx 90,000 killed Other Modern Islamic terror and seperatism: approx 100,000 killed Genocide in West Papua: approx 100,000 killed Democide in Algeria: approx 150,000 killed Genocide of al-Anfal: approx 180,000 killed Genocide in East Timor: approx 200,000 killed Genocide of Greeks during the war of independance: at least 250,000 killed Genocide in Darfur: approx 300,000 killed Democide in Indonesia: approx 400,000 killed Genocide in Southern Sudan: approx 400,000 killed Democide in Uganda: approx 500,000 killed Barbary Corsair raids: approx 1,000,000 killed and enslaved Genocide of Bengladeshi Hindus: at least 1,000,000 killed Genocide of Sikhs and Hindus during the partition of India: at least 1,500,000 killed Genocide of Armenian, Assyrian and Coptic Christians and Alevi Kurds by Turkey: approx 2,200,000 killed Biafran genocide: approx 3,000,000 killed And then between 632 and 1858: 10,000,000 Buddhists 60,000,000 African and middle eastern Christians 80,000,000 Hindus 120,000,000 African animists and shamanists Muslim total: approx. 281,784,500[/QUOTE] 1 Wikipedia 2 Source for all those numbers

i don't even think genghis khan and the black plague combined killed almost 300 million people.

[QUOTE=OleWally;25070168]Source? [editline]03:00PM[/editline] 30 years war: approx 8 million killed All other Crusades: approx 300,000 killed Massacres in the First Crusade: approx 200,000 killed Albigensian Crusade: approx 200,000 killed Witch Trials: approx 60,000 killed Saint Bartholomew's Day Massacre: approx 40,000 killed Spanish Inquisition: approx 15,000 killed The Troubles: approx 1,800 civilians killed Portugeuse Inquisition: approx 1,200 killed Roman Inquisition: approx 1,000 killed Total: approx 8,819,000 Insurgency in South Thailand: approx 3,500 killed Noakhali and Tippera Genocide: approx 5,000 killed Nasserite occupation of Yemen: approx 5,000 killed Chhotaa Ghallooghaaraa: approx 7,000 killed Islamic Republic of Iran postrevolution: approx 8,000 killed Black September in Jordan: approx 10,000 killed Zilan Valley massacre: approx 15,000 killed Massacre at Hama: approx 20,000 killed 1860 Maronite Massacres: approx 20,000 killed Wadda Ghalughara: approx 25,000 killed Adana Massacre: approx 30,000 killed Baathist suppression of Shi'a: approx 50,000 killed Islamic Insurgency in Mindanao: Approx 60,000 killed Dersim Genocide: approx 70,000 killed Bor Massacre: Approx 86,000 Killed Hamidian massacres: approx 90,000 killed Other Modern Islamic terror and seperatism: approx 100,000 killed Genocide in West Papua: approx 100,000 killed Democide in Algeria: approx 150,000 killed Genocide of al-Anfal: approx 180,000 killed Genocide in East Timor: approx 200,000 killed Genocide of Greeks during the war of independance: at least 250,000 killed Genocide in Darfur: approx 300,000 killed Democide in Indonesia: approx 400,000 killed Genocide in Southern Sudan: approx 400,000 killed Democide in Uganda: approx 500,000 killed Barbary Corsair raids: approx 1,000,000 killed and enslaved Genocide of Bengladeshi Hindus: at least 1,000,000 killed Genocide of Sikhs and Hindus during the partition of India: at least 1,500,000 killed Genocide of Armenian, Assyrian and Coptic Christians and Alevi Kurds by Turkey: approx 2,200,000 killed Biafran genocide: approx 3,000,000 killed And then between 632 and 1858: 10,000,000 Buddhists 60,000,000 African and middle eastern Christians 80,000,000 Hindus 120,000,000 African animists and shamanists Muslim total: approx. 281,784,500[/QUOTE] I like how your Christian stats only include things directly caused but Christianity while your Muslim stats include pretty much everything where some Muslims were simply involved. By your logic, you could pop the Holocaust (and numerous other things) under the first list.

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25073300]I like how your Christian stats only include things directly caused but Christianity while your Muslim stats include pretty much everything where some Muslims were simply involved. By your logic, you could pop the Holocaust under the first list.[/QUOTE] Really, the Holocaust was committed in the name of the Christian God? Against non-Christians for the purpose of spreading Christianity? I never knew! [editline]04:54PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lambeth;25071669]1 Wikipedia 2 Source for all those numbers[/QUOTE] You can easily look up each one to see that they did in fact happen Also saying Wikipedia is not a source, show me exactly what you mean by Jihad is not violent

[QUOTE=OleWally;25070168]Source? [editline]03:00PM[/editline] 30 years war: approx 8 million killed All other Crusades: approx 300,000 killed Massacres in the First Crusade: approx 200,000 killed Albigensian Crusade: approx 200,000 killed Witch Trials: approx 60,000 killed Saint Bartholomew's Day Massacre: approx 40,000 killed Spanish Inquisition: approx 15,000 killed The Troubles: approx 1,800 civilians killed Portugeuse Inquisition: approx 1,200 killed Roman Inquisition: approx 1,000 killed Total: approx 8,819,000 Insurgency in South Thailand: approx 3,500 killed Noakhali and Tippera Genocide: approx 5,000 killed Nasserite occupation of Yemen: approx 5,000 killed Chhotaa Ghallooghaaraa: approx 7,000 killed Islamic Republic of Iran postrevolution: approx 8,000 killed Black September in Jordan: approx 10,000 killed Zilan Valley massacre: approx 15,000 killed Massacre at Hama: approx 20,000 killed 1860 Maronite Massacres: approx 20,000 killed Wadda Ghalughara: approx 25,000 killed Adana Massacre: approx 30,000 killed Baathist suppression of Shi'a: approx 50,000 killed Islamic Insurgency in Mindanao: Approx 60,000 killed Dersim Genocide: approx 70,000 killed Bor Massacre: Approx 86,000 Killed Hamidian massacres: approx 90,000 killed Other Modern Islamic terror and seperatism: approx 100,000 killed Genocide in West Papua: approx 100,000 killed Democide in Algeria: approx 150,000 killed Genocide of al-Anfal: approx 180,000 killed Genocide in East Timor: approx 200,000 killed Genocide of Greeks during the war of independance: at least 250,000 killed Genocide in Darfur: approx 300,000 killed Democide in Indonesia: approx 400,000 killed Genocide in Southern Sudan: approx 400,000 killed Democide in Uganda: approx 500,000 killed Barbary Corsair raids: approx 1,000,000 killed and enslaved Genocide of Bengladeshi Hindus: at least 1,000,000 killed Genocide of Sikhs and Hindus during the partition of India: at least 1,500,000 killed Genocide of Armenian, Assyrian and Coptic Christians and Alevi Kurds by Turkey: approx 2,200,000 killed Biafran genocide: approx 3,000,000 killed And then between 632 and 1858: 10,000,000 Buddhists 60,000,000 African and middle eastern Christians 80,000,000 Hindus 120,000,000 African animists and shamanists Muslim total: approx. 281,784,500[/QUOTE] Most of those were not done in the name of Islam just by Muslims and there are a few that weren't even done by Muslims. And you are missing a shit tone from both sides. If you really want to say the Biafran Genocide or the East Timor Genocide were in any way related to Islam then you might want to include 50 million Native Americans on the Christian side. Do you really believe that all of those were done in the name of Allah? Edit: meant 50 million not 500

[QUOTE=OleWally;25073339]Really, the Holocaust was committed in the name of the Christian God? Against non-Christians for the purpose of spreading Christianity? I never knew! [/QUOTE] Yes, he invoked the name of the Christian god numerous times in an attempt to justify his actions. [release]"What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and the reproduction of our race ... so that our people may mature for the fulfilment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe. ... Peoples that bastardize themselves, or let themselves be bastardized, sin against the will of eternal Providence."[/release]

Hitler was catholic

[QUOTE=OleWally;25073339]Really, the Holocaust was committed in the name of the Christian God? Against non-Christians for the purpose of spreading Christianity? I never knew![/QUOTE] See how poor your logic is?

[QUOTE=Haxxer;25073421]Hitler was catholic[/QUOTE] Not in private but he did indeed invoke it many times.

[QUOTE=RBM11;25073452]Not in private but he did indeed invoke it many times.[/QUOTE] Simply stating fact

[QUOTE=RBM11;25073452]Not in private but he did indeed invoke it many times.[/QUOTE] He used it as justification, therefore the holocaust is as Christian as the Biafran genocide is Muslim.

[QUOTE=RBM11;25073412]Most of those were not done in the name of Islam just by Muslims and there are a few that weren't even done by Muslims. And you are missing a shit tone from both sides. If you really want to say the Biafran Genocide or the East Timor Genocide were in any way related to Islam then you might want to include 500 million Native Americans on the Christian side. Do you really believe that all of those were done in the name of Allah?[/QUOTE] You mean Muslims killing the non-Muslims who don't want to live under Islamic rule has nothing to do with Muslims?

[QUOTE=OleWally;25073591]You mean Muslims killing the non-Muslims who don't want to live under Islamic rule has nothing to do with Muslims?[/QUOTE] You mean Christians killing Jews just because they're Jews has nothing to do with Christianity?

[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25073512]He used it as justification, therefore the holocaust is as Christian as the Biafran genocide is Muslim.[/QUOTE] So by this logic essentially all attacks where the perpetrators have referred to Allah or anything about Islam is an Islamic attack. So basically in terms of scale, Muslims have still killed millions more. You're basically agreeing with me with the condition that you can disingenuously add a couple million more casualties to the Christian side. [editline]05:07PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25073632]You mean Christians killing Jews just because they're Jews has nothing to do with Christianity?[/QUOTE] I think you forgot to put in reason why the were being killed, which kind of makes your comparison irrelevant because it doesn't matter what someone is, it's why they do what they do.

[QUOTE=OleWally;25073650]So by this logic essentially all attacks where the perpetrators have referred to Allah or anything about Islam is an Islamic attack. So basically in terms of scale, Muslims have still killed millions more. You're basically agreeing with me with the condition that you can disingenuously add a couple million more casualties to the Christian side.[/QUOTE] I dunno, Christianity has been around a bit longer so it has a headstart.

[QUOTE=OleWally;25073650]So by this logic essentially all attacks where the perpetrators have referred to Allah or anything about Islam is an Islamic attack. [b]So basically in terms of scale, Muslims have still killed millions more.[/b] You're basically agreeing with me with the condition that you can disingenuously add a couple million more casualties to the Christian side.[/quote] You seem to be good at tallying numbers, go for it. Because I seriously doubt this claim. Don't forget to adjust for the length of time that each religion has been around. [QUOTE=OleWally;25073650]I think you forgot to put in reason why the were being killed, which kind of makes your comparison irrelevant because it doesn't matter what someone is, it's why they do what they do.[/QUOTE] I quoted Hitler in a previous post, stop ignoring things that prove you wrong.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;25073805]I dunno, Christianity has been around a bit longer so it has a headstart.[/QUOTE] I think you and Zeke are on to something about the length of religions being around. With that in mind Muslims are even worse because they've been around less but have killed many times more. Also Zeke, that one short quote does not really prove Nazism was a Christian movement.

[QUOTE=OleWally;25070168]Source? [editline]03:00PM[/editline] 30 years war: approx 8 million killed All other Crusades: approx 300,000 killed Massacres in the First Crusade: approx 200,000 killed Albigensian Crusade: approx 200,000 killed Witch Trials: approx 60,000 killed Saint Bartholomew's Day Massacre: approx 40,000 killed Spanish Inquisition: approx 15,000 killed The Troubles: approx 1,800 civilians killed Portugeuse Inquisition: approx 1,200 killed Roman Inquisition: approx 1,000 killed Total: approx 8,819,000 Insurgency in South Thailand: approx 3,500 killed Noakhali and Tippera Genocide: approx 5,000 killed Nasserite occupation of Yemen: approx 5,000 killed Chhotaa Ghallooghaaraa: approx 7,000 killed Islamic Republic of Iran postrevolution: approx 8,000 killed Black September in Jordan: approx 10,000 killed Zilan Valley massacre: approx 15,000 killed Massacre at Hama: approx 20,000 killed 1860 Maronite Massacres: approx 20,000 killed Wadda Ghalughara: approx 25,000 killed Adana Massacre: approx 30,000 killed Baathist suppression of Shi'a: approx 50,000 killed Islamic Insurgency in Mindanao: Approx 60,000 killed Dersim Genocide: approx 70,000 killed Bor Massacre: Approx 86,000 Killed Hamidian massacres: approx 90,000 killed Other Modern Islamic terror and seperatism: approx 100,000 killed Genocide in West Papua: approx 100,000 killed Democide in Algeria: approx 150,000 killed Genocide of al-Anfal: approx 180,000 killed Genocide in East Timor: approx 200,000 killed Genocide of Greeks during the war of independance: at least 250,000 killed Genocide in Darfur: approx 300,000 killed Democide in Indonesia: approx 400,000 killed Genocide in Southern Sudan: approx 400,000 killed Democide in Uganda: approx 500,000 killed Barbary Corsair raids: approx 1,000,000 killed and enslaved Genocide of Bengladeshi Hindus: at least 1,000,000 killed Genocide of Sikhs and Hindus during the partition of India: at least 1,500,000 killed Genocide of Armenian, Assyrian and Coptic Christians and Alevi Kurds by Turkey: approx 2,200,000 killed Biafran genocide: approx 3,000,000 killed And then between 632 and 1858: 10,000,000 Buddhists 60,000,000 African and middle eastern Christians 80,000,000 Hindus 120,000,000 African animists and shamanists Muslim total: approx. 281,784,500[/QUOTE] so much fucking wrong with the post.

[QUOTE=Warhol;25074370]so much fucking wrong with the post.[/QUOTE] Which part? Why?

[QUOTE=OleWally;25074420]Which part? Why?[/QUOTE] Because you put many things on the Muslim side that aren't Muslim and you left out a ton of shit on the Christian side. If the Biafran war was Muslim then how is the conquest of the Americas, which killed an estimated 50 million, not Christian?

I hate that these people are a reflection of America... :911:

Who cares. No one remembers anything from school, anyway.

[QUOTE=Roskarnolkov;25074528]Who cares. No one remembers anything from school, anyway.[/QUOTE] hahaha