Texas School Board is at it again: wants to remove Muslim bias in textbooks.
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[QUOTE=OleWally;25073874]With that in mind Muslims are even worse because they've been around less but have killed many times more.
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Get banned.
Why do I bother humouring your blatant racism and xenophobia
[QUOTE=RBM11;25074479]Because you put many things on the Muslim side that aren't Muslim and you left out a ton of shit on the Christian side.
If the Biafran war was Muslim then how is the conquest of the Americas, which killed an estimated 50 million, not Christian?[/QUOTE]
Because the northern Muslims wanted to live in an Islamic society, and they massacred the southern Christians that didn't.
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[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25074683]Get banned.
Why do I bother humouring your blatant racism and xenophobia[/QUOTE]
Which race is that of Muslims? How can I be xenophobic against something I know so well? Why do you people always resort to this when you can't come up with an argument?
Maybe you should actually look into what I say instead of just blindly trying to find anything to post against that crazy racist paranoid schizophrenic critical thought.
fuck religion
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;25075506]fuck religion[/QUOTE]
no
MUSLIM bias? Ohoho.
[QUOTE=OleWally;25074697] How can I be xenophobic against something I know so well?[/QUOTE]
Those aren't mutually exclusive you know.
[QUOTE=Warhol;25068429]You're a Christian right? You and I both know I can pull out some of the most horrible things ever written out of the bible.[/QUOTE]
It's been five years since I last went to church.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;25076316]Those aren't mutually exclusive you know.[/QUOTE]
Define 'your' version of xenophobia then for me.
[QUOTE=RBM11;25074479]Because you put many things on the Muslim side that aren't Muslim and you left out a ton of shit on the Christian side.
If the Biafran war was Muslim then how is the conquest of the Americas, which killed an estimated 50 million, not Christian?[/QUOTE]
this, like all the fucking way.
I'm just saying you can know a lot about Muslims and still be xenophobic towards them.
Thank GOD OleWally was permabanned. So much xenophobia...
[QUOTE=ASmellyOgreV2;25078037]Thank GOD OleWally was permabanned. So much xenophobia...[/QUOTE]
Yeah he's clearly xenophobic just because he put up some statistics that don't exactly show islam in a positive light...
never mind the christian bashing that goes on daily in these forums.
To everyone that is ranting about the Texas school board. You are all fucking badly misinformed imbeciles. I live in Texas and I go to a Texan High School. My teacher has told us about the new curriculum and everything, we had ONE FUCKING QUESTION about religion on our test. The question asked said "Which religion is represented by the 10 commandments" then I had to answer Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, or Hinduism. And that's all. So seriously get your facts right before you go flaming the religious community.
[QUOTE=AutoTurret;25078325]To everyone that is ranting about the Texas school board. You are all fucking badly misinformed imbeciles. I live in Texas and I go to a Texan High School. My teacher has told us about the new curriculum and everything, we had ONE FUCKING QUESTION about religion on our test. The question asked said "Which religion is represented by the 10 commandments" then I had to answer Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, or Hinduism. And that's all. So seriously get your facts right before you go flaming the religious community.[/QUOTE]
How does the actions of one school override a widely publicized decision by the Texas School Board
We're not the imbecile here
[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25078791]How does the actions of one school override a widely publicized decision by the Texas School Board
We're not the imbecile here[/QUOTE]
It was a state test for gods sake, everyone has to take it.
answers change per write up.
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could be 23 questions on religion in the next one.
[QUOTE=Zeus;25078245]Yeah he's clearly xenophobic just because he put up some statistics that don't exactly show islam in a positive light...
never mind the christian bashing that goes on daily in these forums.[/QUOTE]
You poor Christians
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really I think most of the bashing is because of the pope and other conservative nonsense.
Odessa, Texas is filled with reactionary types. It's not surprising someone from there would push this.
The question is whether this proposal will gain any traction, considering the bad publicity they got from the big package of revisions they passed a few months ago.
[QUOTE=AutoTurret;25078325]To everyone that is ranting about the Texas school board. You are all fucking badly misinformed imbeciles. I live in Texas and I go to a Texan High School. My teacher has told us about the new curriculum and everything, we had ONE FUCKING QUESTION about religion on our test. The question asked said "Which religion is represented by the 10 commandments" then I had to answer Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, or Hinduism. And that's all. So seriously get your facts right before you go flaming the religious community.[/QUOTE]
1) The changes haven't taken effect yet.
2) That has nothing to do with this. One question on a test != the school system's view on a subject
3) Also, remember that they have done some horrible things to the curriculum other than this, such as removing Thomas Jefferson (founding father, president) from a list of necessary enlightenment writers and replacing him with Thomas Aquinas (Catholic Saint), John Calvin (the nutjob that founded Calvinism), and Sir William Blackstone (a juror that said Common Law derives from God's Law (how this can be argued I have no idea))
4) The ten Commandments apply to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. That's a terrible question.
[url=http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/mar/23/bill-white/white-says-state-board-education-led-perry-appoint/]Source[/url]
It's also worth mentioning that the previous SBOE make ups were by and large "conservative" in nature anyways, so previous revisions were already free of the perceived liberal bias that other states supposedly have.
So I'm not sure exactly what they are trying to do here beyond pushing a more extreme view and/or pandering to the "American Exceptionalism" crowd in the state. Considering they don't want any more bad press it's probably just more pandering.
[QUOTE=ASmellyOgreV2;25079710]Sir William Blackstone (a juror that said Common Law derives from God's Law (how this can be argued I have no idea))[/QUOTE]
I had to look that guy up when I read this
Christ's sake you're right
[QUOTE=ASmellyOgreV2;25079710]
3) Also, remember that they have done some horrible things to the curriculum other than this, such as removing Thomas Jefferson[/QUOTE]
I always found this amusing because Thomas Jefferson was a huge proponent of states rights.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;25079611]You poor Christians
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really I think most of the bashing is because of the pope and other conservative nonsense.[/QUOTE]
Dumb. You can't even come up with a good reason to defend your double standards. A few christians say some stupid things on tv and then you think you can generalize over 2 billion people because of that. Do you see me generalizing all muslims as terrorists because a few freaks decided to blow themselves up?
For the record I'm not even a religious person but good try anyway putting a label on me for questioning your double standards.
[QUOTE=Zeus;25078245]Yeah he's clearly xenophobic just because he put up some statistics that don't exactly show islam in a positive light...
never mind the christian bashing that goes on daily in these forums.[/QUOTE]
Hey Zeus, shut up.
[QUOTE=OleWally;25070168]30 years war: approx 8 million killed
All other Crusades: approx 300,000 killed
Massacres in the First Crusade: approx 200,000 killed
Albigensian Crusade: approx 200,000 killed
Witch Trials: approx 60,000 killed
Saint Bartholomew's Day Massacre: approx 40,000 killed
Spanish Inquisition: approx 15,000 killed
The Troubles: approx 1,800 civilians killed
Portugeuse Inquisition: approx 1,200 killed
Roman Inquisition: approx 1,000 killed
Total: approx 8,819,000[/quote]
There are a tonne more incidents by the Christians. Mind you, pretty much ALL of these were against people for not being Christian. At least with the Muslims, they have some sort of fucking political gain behind it.
[quote]Insurgency in South Thailand: approx 3,500 killed[/quote]
First of all, it's around 3000... Insurgents killed... way2read. they killed about 100 Thai soldiers.
Thai soldiers also do this:
[quote]The Asian Human Rights Commission accused the military of beating and torturing suspected insurgents by burning their genitals with cigarettes, smashing beer bottles over their knees, and chaining them to dogs. Such abuses were alleged to have occurred in October 2006.[/quote]
Well now, Thailand isn't so innocent, isn't it?
also, the insurgency is political, not religious.
[quote]Noakhali and Tippera Genocide: approx 5,000 killed[/quote]
That's hardly a genocide.
Even then, the Hindu's have done horrible things to the muslims as much as the muslims have done to the Hindu's.
[quote]Nasserite occupation of Yemen: approx 5,000 killed[/quote]
After some research, apparently you made this up.
[quote]Chhotaa Ghallooghaaraa: approx 7,000 killed[/quote]
That was the result of a huge fucking war between the Mughals and Sikhs, not Muslims.
[quote]Islamic Republic of Iran postrevolution: approx 8,000 killed[/quote]
This is really fucking vague.
[quote]Black September in Jordan: approx 10,000 killed[/quote]
That was a massacre of Muslims you idiot. A majority of the 10,000 killed were innocent fucking Palestinians.
[quote]Zilan Valley massacre: approx 15,000 killed[/quote]
Again, another fucking battle. When you start shooing at people, those people like to shoot back.
[quote]Massacre at Hama: approx 20,000 killed[/quote]
ANOTHER fucking crime against Arabs. Jesus, you can't get anything right, can you?
[quote]1860 Maronite Massacres: approx 20,000 killed[/quote]
hey buddyo, yes, those people killed were innocent christians by radical muslims.
but guess what else: The ONLY reason all of the Christians in that area weren't completely annihilated... was because the Muslims actually came and protected them. The Muslims saved those people.
[quote]Adana Massacre: approx 30,000 killed[/quote]
Armenian's actually helped in this.
[quote]Baathist suppression of Shi'a: approx 50,000 killed[/quote]
The Ba'athist party is actually secular. So it was a secular oppression of Muslims. lol, lern2history.
[quote]Islamic Insurgency in Mindanao: Approx 60,000 killed[/quote]
The Philippine government treats the moro people pretty shitty. I can see why insurgents would exist. Not only that, i would like a source on the death toll.
[quote]Dersim Genocide: approx 70,000 killed[/quote]
Muslims were also target in the massacre. Not only that, it was turkification. It had nothing to do with Islam.
[quote]Bor Massacre: Approx 86,000 Killed[/quote]
First of all, it was actually 2000 killed, i don't know where you got 86,000 from. And again, it was against other muslims.
[quote]Hamidian massacres: approx 90,000 killed[/quote]
It was the Ottoman Empires "fuck dissent" thing. Every Empire does this shit. It has nothing to do with Islam.
[quote]Other Modern Islamic terror and seperatism: approx 100,000 killed[/quote]
Source for this vague fucking point.
[quote]Genocide in West Papua: approx 100,000 killed[/quote
I don't think this ever happened. Unless you're talking about Inodnesia... They're not Muslim.
[quote]Democide in Algeria: approx 150,000 killed[/quote]
I can't find evidence for any of this.
[quote]Genocide of al-Anfal: approx 180,000 killed[/quote]
Against other Muslims.
[quote]Genocide in East Timor: approx 200,000 killed[/quote]
Indonesia is not a fucking Muslim state, what the hell is wrong with you? you seem to like to say that any fucking death that has the word Muslim anywhere near any person involved... is a muslim related death.
[quote]Genocide of Greeks during the war of independance: at least 250,000 killed[/quote]
This is vague as fuck
[quote]Genocide in Darfur: approx 300,000 killed[/quote]
Against other muslims.
[quote]Democide in Indonesia: approx 400,000 killed[/quote]
A: source
B: you seem to think Indonesia is like fucking Saudi Arabia, so it's against OTHER Muslims.
[quote]Genocide in Southern Sudan: approx 400,000 killed[/quote]
Against other Muslims.
[quote]Democide in Uganda: approx 500,000 killed[/quote]
Has nothing to do with Islam.
[quote]Barbary Corsair raids: approx 1,000,000 killed and enslaved[/quote]
Islamic Piracy is just as bad as normal fucking Piracy which killed and enslaved equal amounts of people. Edward Teach was a Christian lol
[quote]Genocide of Bengladeshi Hindus: at least 1,000,000 killed[/quote]
Muslims and Hindus have been going at it for fucking years. Also, source and a fucking date for christ sake.
[quote]Genocide of Sikhs and Hindus during the partition of India: at least 1,500,000 killed[/quote]
Really fucking vague.
[quote]Genocide of Armenian, Assyrian and Coptic Christians and Alevi Kurds by Turkey: approx 2,200,000 killed[/quote]
The Armenian genocide was strictly racism. It had fucking nothing to do with Islam.
[quote]Biafran genocide: approx 3,000,000 killed[/quote]
Against other muslims. Seriously, you didn't research any of this didn't you?
you just googled "why muslims are bad people" and pulled all you could together.
[quote]And then between 632 and 1858:
10,000,000 Buddhists
60,000,000 African and middle eastern Christians
80,000,000 Hindus
120,000,000 African animists and shamanists[/quote]
This is vague as fuck and I suspect most to be an out right lie.
[quote]Muslim total: approx. 281,784,500[/QUOTE]
you are a tool.
Hah, religious people.
[QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]Hey Zeus, shut up.
There are a tonne more incidents by the Christians. Mind you, pretty much ALL of these were against people for not being Christian. At least with the Muslims, they have some sort of fucking political gain behind it.
First of all, it's around 3000... Insurgents killed... way2read. they killed about 100 Thai soldiers.
Thai soldiers also do this:
Well now, Thailand isn't so innocent, isn't it?
also, the insurgency is political, not religious.
That's hardly a genocide.
Even then, the Hindu's have done horrible things to the muslims as much as the muslims have done to the Hindu's.
After some research, apparently you made this up.
That was the result of a huge fucking war between the Mughals and Sikhs, not Muslims.
This is really fucking vague.
That was a massacre of Muslims you idiot. A majority of the 10,000 killed were innocent fucking Palestinians.
Again, another fucking battle. When you start shooing at people, those people like to shoot back.
ANOTHER fucking crime against Arabs. Jesus, you can't get anything right, can you?
hey buddyo, yes, those people killed were innocent christians by radical muslims.
but guess what else: The ONLY reason all of the Christians in that area weren't completely annihilated... was because the Muslims actually came and protected them. The Muslims saved those people.
Armenian's actually helped in this.
The Ba'athist party is actually secular. So it was a secular oppression of Muslims. lol, lern2history.
The Philippine government treats the moro people pretty shitty. I can see why insurgents would exist. Not only that, i would like a source on the death toll.
Muslims were also target in the massacre. Not only that, it was turkification. It had nothing to do with Islam.
First of all, it was actually 2000 killed, i don't know where you got 86,000 from. And again, it was against other muslims.
It was the Ottoman Empires "fuck dissent" thing. Every Empire does this shit. It has nothing to do with Islam.
Source for this vague fucking point.
[quote]Genocide in West Papua: approx 100,000 killed[/quote
I don't think this ever happened. Unless you're talking about Inodnesia... They're not Muslim.
I can't find evidence for any of this.
Against other Muslims.
Indonesia is not a fucking Muslim state, what the hell is wrong with you? you seem to like to say that any fucking death that has the word Muslim anywhere near any person involved... is a muslim related death.
This is vague as fuck
Against other muslims.
A: source
B: you seem to think Indonesia is like fucking Saudi Arabia, so it's against OTHER Muslims.
Against other Muslims.
Has nothing to do with Islam.
Islamic Piracy is just as bad as normal fucking Piracy which killed and enslaved equal amounts of people. Edward Teach was a Christian lol
Muslims and Hindus have been going at it for fucking years. Also, source and a fucking date for christ sake.
Really fucking vague.
The Armenian genocide was strictly racism. It had fucking nothing to do with Islam.
Against other muslims. Seriously, you didn't research any of this didn't you?
you just googled "why muslims are bad people" and pulled all you could together.
This is vague as fuck and I suspect most to be an out right lie.
you are a tool.[/quote][/quote]:golfclap:
Don't really see the problem. People are just looking directly at "Texas". If any school book has a bias, Why shouldn't it be removed? Schoolbooks need to stay true to history, If it sways with the opinion of one group why shouldn't it be corrected?
[QUOTE=BoopieDoopie;25087953]Don't really see the problem. People are just looking directly at "Texas". If any school book has a bias, Why shouldn't it be removed? Schoolbooks need to stay true to history, If it sways with the opinion of one group why shouldn't it be corrected?[/QUOTE]
except they're making up what's biased.
[QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]Hey Zeus, shut up.
(rest of post)[/QUOTE]
Hey warhol start mentioning "brown people" 100 times and call everyone who doesn't agree with you a racist or islamophobe.
[QUOTE=Zeus;25088580]Hey warhol start mentioning "brown people" 100 times and call everyone who doesn't agree with you a racist or islamophobe.[/QUOTE]
I think you are a bit confused.
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