• Texas School Board is at it again: wants to remove Muslim bias in textbooks.
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[QUOTE=Zeus;25088580]Hey warhol start mentioning "brown people" 100 times and call everyone who doesn't agree with you a racist or islamophobe.[/QUOTE] When you make racist and Islamaphobic comments, that typically makes you an Islamaphobe or a Racist. [editline]04:34PM[/editline] i'm just sayin'
[QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]Hey Zeus, shut up. There are a tonne more incidents by the Christians. Mind you, pretty much ALL of these were against people for not being Christian. At least with the Muslims, they have some sort of fucking political gain behind it. [/quote] Because Islam is intrinsically political. It is a theocratic ideology. [QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]First of all, it's around 3000... Insurgents killed... way2read. they killed about 100 Thai soldiers. Thai soldiers also do this: Well now, Thailand isn't so innocent, isn't it? also, the insurgency is political, not religious. [/quote] [quote]The [b](Islamic)[/b] insurgents have attacked monks collecting alms. School teachers, principals, and students have been killed and schools torched presumably because schools represent the Thai Government. Government workers have been targeted for assassination. Buddhist villagers have been killed going about their routine work like rubber tapping. According to the Thai Journalists Association, there have been over 500 attacks resulting in more than 300 deaths in the four southern provinces where the insurgents operate in 2008.[/quote] Just in 2008 [quote]On January 4, 2004, unidentified gunmen raided an army ammunition depot in Narathiwat Province in the early morning, and made off with over [b]100 rifles and other ammunition.[/b] In the midst of doing so, all four senior-ranking soldiers guarding the installation were murdered. This incident quickly escalated into large scale violence, with [b]insurgents killing 600 people in a series of bombings and shootings[/b] aimed mainly at the police and the military, but also many civilians. [b]Some bombings were directed at non-Muslim Thai residents of the area, leading to an exodus[/b] which has damaged the regional economy and increased its isolation from the rest of Thailand.[/quote] They attack the government because they want an Islamic government. Those 3000 killed aren't insurgents, it's death toll. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org[/url] /wiki/South_Thailand_insurgency#Attacks_and_responses_since_2004 [QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]That's hardly a genocide. Even then, the Hindu's have done horrible things to the muslims as much as the muslims have done to the Hindu's.[/quote] [quote]The violence unleashed was described as [b]"the organized fury of the Muslim mob".[/b] It soon engulfed the neighbouring police stations of Raipur, Lakshmipur, Begumganj and Sandip in Noakhali, and Faridganj, Hajiganj, Chandpur, Lakshman and Chudagram in Tippera. The devastation caused by widespread violence was quite extensive. Initial statistics regarding casualties remained doubtful. If the "Hindu" press placed the figures in thousands, the "League" press went on to the other extreme and even denied incidents of death. As per Gandhian Ashoka Gupta's report during visit with Mahatma Gandhi from the [b]genocide site at least 2000 Hindus were forced to change their religion to Islam, six were forced to marry by force and one was murdered.[/b][/quote] What happened to no compulsion in religion? Oh yeah it's been abrogated. [quote]Some worst riot also took place in Garhmukteshwar in United Provinces where a massacre occurred in November 1946 in which [b]"Hindu pilgrims, at the annual religious fair, set upon and exterminated Muslims, not only on the festival grounds but in the adjacent town" while the police did little or nothing; the deaths were estimated at between 1,000 and 2,000.[/b][/quote] Hindus did horrible things to Muslims? Show me an instance where it didn't take place during a time where Muslims were killing thousands of Hindus. Show an instance where it wasn't practically self-defense. [QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]After some research, apparently you made this up.[/quote] I didn't make this list, I'll find you a source later as I'm of a bit of a time constraint. [QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]That was the result of a huge fucking war between the Mughals and Sikhs, not Muslims. [/quote] Do you know who the Mughals were? God damn you're ignorant. This is the fucking opening sentence on the Wikipedia page, which is generally biased as all fuck in favour of Muslims: [quote]The Chhotaa Ghallooghaaraa was a massacre of a significant proportion of the Sikh population by Muslims during the waning years of the Mughal Empire[/quote] [QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]This is really fucking vague.[quote] [quote]After the revolution human rights groups estimated the number of [b]casualties suffered by protesters and prisoners of the new Islamic regime to be several thousand.[/b] The first to be executed were Members of the old regime - senior generals, followed by over 200 of the Shah's senior civilian officials - as punishment and to eliminate the danger of coup d’État. Brief trials lacking defense attorneys, juries, transparency or opportunity for the accused to defend themselves were held by revolutionary judges such as Sadegh Khalkhali, the Sharia judge. By January 1980 "[b]at least 582 persons had been executed.[/b]" Among those executed was Amir Abbas Hoveida, former Prime Minister of Iran. Between January 1980 and June 1981, when Bani-Sadr was impeached, [b]at least 900 executions took place[/b], for everything from drug and sexual offenses to `corruption on earth,` from plotting counter-revolution and spying for Israel to membership in opposition groups. In the 12 months following that [b]Amnesty International documented 2,946 executions, with several thousand more killed in the next two years according to the anti-regime guerillas People's Mujahedin of Iran.[/b][/quote] [QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]That was a massacre of Muslims you idiot. A majority of the 10,000 killed were innocent fucking Palestinians. [/quote] I can agree that this might not be applicable [QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]Again, another fucking battle. When you start shooing at people, those people like to shoot back.[/quote] Massacre of Kurds, I would hardly call this a battle [quote]Villagers were tied to each other and killed by machine guns of a detachment under the command of Captain Derviş Bey[/quote] I think 15000 killed is a pretty conservative estimate as well, although this event also might not be applicable for this list. [QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]ANOTHER fucking crime against Arabs. Jesus, you can't get anything right, can you?[/quote] This and the previous two have been intra-Muslim fighting, although not specifically fighting because of the different sects being mushrikeen, so I can agree to discount this one too. [QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]hey buddyo, yes, those people killed were innocent christians by radical muslims. but guess what else: The ONLY reason all of the Christians in that area weren't completely annihilated... was because the Muslims actually came and protected them. The Muslims saved those people.[/quote] Since it was Muslims killing Christians because they weren't Muslims, this figure stands. Also the guy who rescued them was a Sufi. [QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]Armenian's actually helped in this. [/quote] This figure stands [QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]The Ba'athist party is actually secular. So it was a secular oppression of Muslims. lol, lern2history. [/quote] They are a political part who are still made of of Sunnis. Sunni vs. Shia conflict counts as Muslim violence so this figure stands. [QUOTE=Warhol;25087576]The Philippine government treats the moro people pretty shitty. I can see why insurgents would exist. Not only that, i would like a source on the death toll. [/quote] Islamic terrorists wanting to create an Islamic state. This one stands. I think the figure is a total from many different attacks although I'll will find you a source later as well as finish the rest of the list as I have to go now.
[QUOTE=ImmortalWally;25089640]Because Islam is intrinsically political. It is a theocratic ideology.[/quote] No it's not. It's a moral and spirtual ideology. It's not fucking political. It's no more political then the bible. [quote]Just in 2008[/quote] Insurgencies are not centralised. Such is the fucking nature of a, hurp, insurgency. [quote]They attack the government because they want an Islamic government.[/quote] Maybe the whole oppressive government thing has to do with it. not only that A: the insurgency is decentralised and B: I doubt you really know what they want. [quote]Those 3000 killed aren't insurgents, it's death toll.[/quote] Again, prove other wise. [quote][url]http://en.wikipedia.org[/url] /wiki/South_Thailand_insurgency#Attacks_and_responses_since_2004[/quote] uh, ok? [quote]What happened to no compulsion in religion? Oh yeah it's been abrogated.[/quote] A riot of pissed off radicals means all muslims are terrorists tru story. [quote]Hindus did horrible things to Muslims? Show me an instance where it didn't take place during a time where Muslims were killing thousands of Hindus. Show an instance where it wasn't practically self-defense.[/quote] [url]http://www.nyu.edu/classes/keefer/joe/reuben2.html[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron_terror[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/29_September_2008_western_India_bombings[/url] [quote]Do you know who the Mughals were? God damn you're ignorant. This is the fucking opening sentence on the Wikipedia page, which is generally biased as all fuck in favour of Muslims:[/quote] If you could read above a kindergarten level, you would realise I said it was political attack. Had nothing to do with Islam. [quote]Massacre of Kurds, I would hardly call this a battle[/quote] It escalated, but it started out as a battle [quote]Since it was Muslims killing Christians because they weren't Muslims, this figure stands. Also the guy who rescued them was a Sufi.[/quote] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism[/url] Sufi's are just more dedicated Muslims. Instead of serving god through life for death, they want to serve Allah during this life. There's really little difference between Islam and Sufism. [quote]This figure stands[/quote] This list he created was Muslims killing non-Muslims in the name of Islam. So no, the figure doesn't stand. [quote]They are a political part who are still made of of Sunnis. Sunni vs. Shia conflict counts as Muslim violence so this figure stands.[/quote] A Muslim guy throwing a rock through my window can be considered Muslim Violence. This list is about Islam influenced violence against Non-Muslims. [quote]Islamic terrorists wanting to create an Islamic state.[/QUOTE] How the fuck do you know that? What did you talk to them personally?
I'll make scans from my textbook today if I have time, we are doing a lesson on Islam and the middle east right now. The first story in the chapter told us about how the angel Gabriel gave Muhammad a lesson. Although it doesn't press religious views on anyone.
[QUOTE=AutoTurret;25093694]I'll make scans from my textbook today if I have time, we are doing a lesson on Islam and the middle east right now. The first story in the chapter told us about how the angel Gabriel gave Muhammad a lesson. Although it doesn't press religious views on anyone.[/QUOTE] It doesn't press religious views on anyone yet it presents angels as a being that exists. Are you fucking serious. Texas is even worse than I thought. Do you learn about the Loch Ness Monster in biology as well?
[QUOTE=mastermaul;24849896]Please open to chapter 14 where we will discuss killing freedom lovers and spreading the word of allah.[/QUOTE] That's UK RE textbooks. One of the chapters was about how Jihad was OK.
[QUOTE=AutoTurret;25093694]I'll make scans from my textbook today if I have time, we are doing a lesson on Islam and the middle east right now. The first story in the chapter told us about how the angel Gabriel gave Muhammad a lesson. Although it doesn't press religious views on anyone.[/QUOTE] What the fuck. [editline]05:25PM[/editline] Honestly all I can remember about religion in History class was a basic skim over the basics.
[QUOTE=OvB;25096132]What the fuck. [editline]05:25PM[/editline] Honestly all I can remember about religion in History class was a basic skim over the basics.[/QUOTE] I remember learning about the Greek, Roman, and Norse gods' names and what people believed they did. Then a bit of the christianization of Europe/crusades/whatnot. Then our teacher brought in a [b]battleaxe[/b] and we did another two weeks on vikings because he was [b][highlight]awesome[/highlight][/b]
i went to school in Ireland... Lots of god. [QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;25095884]That's UK RE textbooks. One of the chapters was about how Jihad was OK.[/QUOTE] What's wrong with a Jihad?
I'll upload the scans and put them in the GD, look for my thread. [editline]01:27AM[/editline] See this thread: [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=25100261#post25100261[/url]
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