THE EU IS AWESOME: Software licenses are yours, and you have the legal right to re-sell them. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Chernarus;36604503]This means I can sell my steam account with a EU VPN.[/QUOTE] You understand steam is a United States based company?

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;36605454]Buy one game, trade it to a friend when you're bored of it. Repeat x30.[/QUOTE] Basically how I have been doing it with a couple of friends with real copies in the past. Our solution to not wanting to pay this much, but not wanting to pirate either. Of course as we got more into Steam and such, our "movable collection" declined, but the principle remains intact.

[QUOTE=TehMentos;36604981]This is awesome. But no, the EU is not awesome in general.[/QUOTE] No, but they're the only entity guaranteeing my Internet freedom (Unless you're a cookie, of course)

[QUOTE=zzaacckk;36605712]You understand steam is a United States based company?[/QUOTE] Yes. How is that relevant to me, a Danish Citizen? I'm covered by EU law, not primitive American laws.

If you make big enough of a fuss you will probably be able to sell your steam games, but there will probably not be any implementations to make this easy.

[QUOTE=zzaacckk;36605712]You understand steam is a United States based company?[/QUOTE] A company selling products in a region will have to follow the laws of the region regardless where it's based

[QUOTE=Bomimo;36606218]Yes. How is that relevant to me, a Danish Citizen? I'm covered by EU law, not primitive American laws.[/QUOTE] tell me do you ever stop being a pretentious douche about everything

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;36606742]tell me do you ever stop being a pretentious douche about everything[/QUOTE] I'm not the pretender here.

[QUOTE=Jack Trades;36605388]If you give American citizens some liberty and freedom they might remember what a constitution is, and we wouldn't want that, would we?[/QUOTE] The fuck are you trying to say?

[QUOTE=Bomimo;36606779]I'm not the pretender here.[/QUOTE] sorry, who's pretending?

Question. Does this mean you can re-sell games back to Valve, or just trade games with other people?

Wouldn't this be bad for steam as people could just trade games to each other?

[QUOTE=JamesRaynor;36607987]Wouldn't this be bad for steam as people could just trade games to each other?[/QUOTE] You really can already do this with retail games.

[QUOTE=Untouch;36607954]Question. Does this mean you can re-sell games back to Valve, or just trade games with other people?[/QUOTE] Why would Valve buy back their own games?

Technically valve could get around this by having the games effectively be all part of a single license that is bound to your account and is upgraded when you buy a new game.

[QUOTE=deadoon;36608403]Technically valve could get around this by having the games effectively be all part of a single license that is bound to your account and is upgraded when you buy a new game.[/QUOTE] you can still sell the license at a higher price

[B]Newsflash[/B] You are [B]allowed[/B] to resell your software license, but services like Steam and Origin don't have to [B]facilitate[/B] it. They won't change a bit.

[QUOTE=Clavus;36609628][B]Newsflash[/B] You are [B]allowed[/B] to resell your software license, but services like Steam and Origin don't have to [B]facilitate[/B] it. They won't change a bit.[/QUOTE] [quote]In essence, it is now illegal in Europe for companies to try to stop you from selling your used digitally distributed software. The exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by such a licence is exhausted on its first sale.[/quote] Sounds a lot more like it's a right for the user to be able to so. [editline]3rd July 2012[/editline] I mean please correct me if I'm wrong I'm not sure if I'm reading it right.

[QUOTE=Joeyl10;36609999]Sounds a lot more like it's a right for the user to be able to so. [editline]3rd July 2012[/editline] I mean please correct me if I'm wrong I'm not sure if I'm reading it right.[/QUOTE] They still don't have to facilitate it. They're just not allowed to directly obstruct it. If they can defend the current situation as trade-neutral, they should be fine.

[QUOTE=Teddi Orange;36604601]Steam accounts are leased to you, not sold to you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;36606323]A company selling products in a region will have to follow the laws of the region regardless where it's based[/QUOTE] They only sell their games online.

[QUOTE=Aide;36610312]They only sell their games online.[/QUOTE] So why does Microsoft or Google have to bow down to EU laws? What about boxed Steamworks titles?

Am i the only one afraid for valves buisness model?

Would be nice to effectively 'borrow' a steam game from someone to see if its any good.

[QUOTE=Niklas;36610760]Am i the only one afraid for valves buisness model?[/QUOTE] I'm indifferent towards Valve's sales model; pretty much everything is about online passes nowadays. Even if you have the boxed copy your license/access to the game still depends entirely on the status of the product key that you registered online, and the providers never facilitate ownership transferring.

How does this effect DLC?

[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;36611084]How does this effect DLC?[/QUOTE] We should have the legal right to resell them too.

EU has always been good on these consumer stuffs, and preventing monopolies. Its her political leadership that's utterly pathetic.

please please please let this be a fucking precedent recognized globally [editline]3rd July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Untouch;36607954]Question. Does this mean you can re-sell games back to Valve, or just trade games with other people?[/QUOTE] It verifies that once you own a piece of software, you own it. Music, video games and all the other good stuff. In theory, this should seriously harm the DRM movement.

Aaand this is going to fuck over a lot of companies