• Nigel Farage invited to one of three 2015 election TV debates
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[QUOTE=smurfy;46222424]David Cameron has [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29595529]responded[/url] to the plan questioning the inclusion of UKIP and the exclusion of the Greens, as well as the timing of the debates [editline]13th October 2014[/editline] Only one of the debates will be on the BBC though[/QUOTE] Probably because the Green Party is the mad-house of politics and having Natalie fucking Bennett screaming over the rest of them about greenhouse gasses won't make for a good debate. I personally think that Nigel going is good as it'll make the rest of the parties kick their arse into gear.
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;46222798]Probably because the Green Party is the mad-house of politics and having Natalie fucking Bennett screaming over the rest of them about greenhouse gasses won't make for a good debate. I personally think that Nigel going is good as it'll make the rest of the parties kick their arse into gear.[/QUOTE] if by into gear, you mean into a strangely racist plutocratic doctrine then yeah, nigel will be kicking them into that. the green party undeniably has the best policies for anyone looking for an alternative. unless of course you care about people speaking english on the tube.
[QUOTE=Killergam;46221918]So many UKIP haters here, hating with no valid reason other than that UKIP are new and will contend with their favorite party.[/QUOTE] pffft ukip are a party of middle-aged white nationalist xenophobes who appeal to daily mail readers and people who are terrified of romanians. their whole reason for existing is older than margret thatcher and their persecution complex is older than the invention of the telephone
[QUOTE=Bobie;46222833]if by into gear, you mean into a strangely racist plutocratic doctrine then yeah, nigel will be kicking them into that. the green party undeniably has the best policies for anyone looking for an alternative. unless of course you care about people speaking english on the tube.[/QUOTE] The only thing green policies are useful for is if you run out of toilet paper and happen to come across a copy of their manifesto. They propose to create more more of those hideous wind turbines and virtually plan to ditch coal, nuclear, gas and oil. If you want to be reading by a candlelight, be my guest but in a country where policies like theirs is simply not needed, they can piss off.
[QUOTE=Killergam;46221918]So many UKIP haters here, hating with no valid reason other than that UKIP are new and will contend with their favorite party.[/QUOTE] I'm not even going to go through every problem I have with UKIP, but I'll leave you with this golden nugget from their recent "policy" release. [QUOTE]– UKIP supports a diverse energy market including coal, nuclear, shale gas, geo-thermal, tidal, solar, conventional gas and oil.[/QUOTE] (few lines down) [QUOTE]– There will be no new subsidies for wind farms and solar arrays. – UKIP will abolish green taxes and charges in order to reduce fuel bills.[/QUOTE] Yes, this is the kind of party I want in parliament.
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;46222935]The only thing green policies are useful for is if you run out of toilet paper and happen to come across a copy of their manifesto. They propose to create more more of those hideous wind turbines and virtually plan to ditch coal, nuclear, gas and oil. If you want to be reading by a candlelight, be my guest but in a country where policies like theirs is simply not needed, they can piss off.[/QUOTE] what's wrong with planning to wean the country off of limited, depleting resources? do you seriously think that oil is going to last forever? do you think that there is a limitless supply of free, cheap gas? ukip supporters are truly more delusional and clueless than i thought. enjoy your tory party 2.0. i hope your plans for when the economy collapses from a seriously useless ukip government aren't as piss poor as your jokes.
well the only interesting one will be the one with nigel farage so i guess i'll watch that one vote tory get labour
[QUOTE=krakadict;46223446]well the only interesting one will be the one with nigel farage so i guess i'll watch that one vote tory get labour[/QUOTE] No matter what people vote for, we're getting some shade of Tory. Whether its a Red Tory or some fucked up combination of Blue and Purple. The UK politics system is fucked, which is probably half the reason we're seeing a rise of UKIP in the first place.
[QUOTE=Bobie;46223204]what's wrong with planning to wean the country off of limited, depleting resources? do you seriously think that oil is going to last forever? do you think that there is a limitless supply of free, cheap gas? ukip supporters are truly more delusional and clueless than i thought. enjoy your tory party 2.0. i hope your plans for when the economy collapses from a seriously useless ukip government aren't as piss poor as your jokes.[/QUOTE] ukip's energy policy won't be a problem because under Farage these sceptred isles will simply recede below the waves before the first boiler starts running low on oil
[QUOTE=Flapadar;46223690]No matter what people vote for, we're getting some shade of Tory. Whether its a Red Tory or some fucked up combination of Blue and Purple. The UK politics system is fucked, which is probably half the reason we're seeing a rise of UKIP in the first place.[/QUOTE] I'm considering leaving UK in a couple of years. Unless things change it is, socially/quality of life wise, a sinking ship. A shame scotland didn't get away, that would have been my first choice.
[QUOTE=Bobie;46223204]what's wrong with planning to wean the country off of limited, depleting resources? do you seriously think that oil is going to last forever? do you think that there is a limitless supply of free, cheap gas? ukip supporters are truly more delusional and clueless than i thought. enjoy your tory party 2.0. i hope your plans for when the economy collapses from a seriously useless ukip government aren't as piss poor as your jokes.[/QUOTE] I'd vote for the Green party if they didn't want to completely [I]fuck over[/I] Nuclear power, you can see how far that kind of policy has fucked over Germany already.
[QUOTE=Bobie;46222833]if by into gear, you mean into a strangely racist plutocratic doctrine then yeah, nigel will be kicking them into that. the green party undeniably has the best policies for anyone looking for an alternative. unless of course you care about people speaking english on the tube.[/QUOTE] Green Party are crazy, did you see their Leader call for negotiations with ISIS during the debate a few weeks ago?
[QUOTE=Bobie;46223204]what's wrong with planning to wean the country off of limited, depleting resources? do you seriously think that oil is going to last forever? do you think that there is a limitless supply of free, cheap gas? ukip supporters are truly more delusional and clueless than i thought. enjoy your tory party 2.0. i hope your plans for when the economy collapses from a seriously useless ukip government aren't as piss poor as your jokes.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, I didn't realise nuclear energy was a depleting resource. Best to tell them to stop building the power plants.
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;46226053]I'm sorry, I didn't realise nuclear energy was a depleting resource. Best to tell them to stop building the power plants.[/QUOTE] and i didn't realise that ukip had ever made any promises for long term investments in nuclear power? where do you pull this shit from? [QUOTE=Thom12255;46225687]Green Party are crazy, did you see their Leader call for negotiations with ISIS during the debate a few weeks ago?[/QUOTE] a diplomatic solution is the most cost effective solution. it isn't likely, but it would turn out far better than the military strong-arm thats been tried over the last several decades. look at where the gulf started and look at what we have now, does it seem like things got better?
[QUOTE=jonu67;46225570]I'd vote for the Green party if they didn't want to completely [I]fuck over[/I] Nuclear power, you can see how far that kind of policy has fucked over Germany already.[/QUOTE] Consider that nuclear would probably be from some company, that company would have a monopoly on energy in that area so the prices would go nuts. Greens aren't just eco they're also anti monopoly and pro public owned shit
The leaders of the Scottish parties have been invited to discuss holding a separate Scottish general election debate [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29598141[/url]
[quote]When asked what sort of people should be allowed to migrate to Britain, Farage said: ‘People who do not have HIV, to be frank.[/quote] -Nigel Farage on AIDS. [url]http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/10/nigel-farage-keep-hiv-positive-migrants-out-britain[/url]
Found an interesting piece about the Green/UKIP media coverage gap - apparently it's partly because the Greens' own media operation just sucks dick and they're hard to work with while UKIP has a slick and ambitious PR campaign [url]http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/10/why-green-party-should-be-tv-election-debates[/url]
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