Smoker's son, 2, to be adopted because of health risk - Polidicks

These threads are always funny and interesting because there will always be that one smoker that acts entitled and as if other people's personal space and opinions doesn't matter.

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;47853422]Smoke lingers, so when someone is walking you will smell it 10m behind them if you walk past them.[/QUOTE] But not 10m around, above and below.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47853211]Lmao I bet you're such a fucking blast at parties and in the real world.[/QUOTE] [I]"Let me tell you about the real world. They appreciate real men like me who SMOKE."[/I] Meanwhile, at the party: [I]"Hey FUCK YOU GUYS. I CAN SMOKE WHEREVER I WANT. WHAT'S THAT? THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR NOSE, NOT MINE SHITBITCH. I DON'T SMELL BAD."[/I]

[QUOTE=Zergeant;47853553]These threads are always funny and interesting because there will always be that one smoker that acts entitled and as if other people's personal space and opinions doesn't matter.[/QUOTE] Speaking of personal space, I had to move from my apartment a few years ago because there were so many smokers outside. Closed windows or not, there used to be a mist in my room sometimes and I had trouble breathing when going to sleep. Second hand smoke doesn't affect anyone hurr durr. :downs:

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47853353]there's something wrong with your nose[/QUOTE] Actually, something wrong with your nose. Smoking regularly is going to make you totally unaware of exactly how much those fucking things smell because you get accustomed to the smell. Non-smokers walking anywhere (particularly enclosed spaces) that someone has smoked in recently will notice that shit straight away. It's really quite strong.

[QUOTE=Zergeant;47853553]These threads are always funny and interesting because there will always be that one smoker that acts entitled and as if other people's personal space and opinions doesn't matter.[/QUOTE] Nice one for that These threads are always funny and interesting because every single fucking non-smoker on this forum is so up their own asses about how to be a smoker is the worst sin of all time. This thread makes us feel practically fucking sub-human, the way you all circlejerk around it. I'm not acting entitled, I'm acting defensive. It's you who are acting entitled, like your personal space is more important than any other's. You're obviously young as fuck or you would know that everyone is entitled. I can damn straight walk down the street with a cigarette if I wanted to. It's legal, nobody cares. If somebody wants to cross the road to avoid the smell, go for it. Don't force your perfect snobbery down my throat though, and I won't inject lung cancer into your bodies (as you act). It's not even that big of a deal, learn to live with each other but you're acting like you have no idea how most adults actually function. Replace what you're saying with homosexuality "I don't mind what they do in their own homes as long as they don't force me to be there and watch it. It's called respect." No. I have the right to smoke outdoors. I'm not an asshole that goes around smoking in primary school classrooms or in an asthmatic's support group. But if I'm walking anywhere outside, I'll walk with a cigarette, and enjoy it. Get off your high fucking horses. You cannot imagine how insulting all of this is, and how self-righteous and infuriating your post is, but no, nobody ever gets banned for it. Racism, prejudice, homophobia, political-correctness etc, but woe betide somebody wants to smoke a cigarette.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47853396]I can smoke wherever the hell I want as long as it's legal.[/quote] Your freedom to smoke depends only on yourself, you smoke when you want. My freedom to not smoke depends on random people in the street not smoking when i'm there. It's a thing called respect. I know people that want to make it illegal to smoke, are against drugs or alcohol. I find that pretty dumb, but there still need to be limits in order to not step on other people's liberties. [quote]Don't presume to think that the only reason a person continues to smoke is because they choose to, [/quote] Never said that, I see friends struggling with trying to stop for years. I know it's hard to stop. But it's not because it's hard that I have to endure it. [quote]like human ever is some factory of superb self-discipline and a fountain of restraint -like you seem to be.[/quote] I've got problems and addiction myself, none of which affect others. That's the difference. [quote]I can't imagine being in a social status where whether or not your smoke determines who you hang out less. You're acting like you live in some utopia, but it just comes across as autistic and anti-social as fuck[/QUOTE] Not smoking is limitating in society. I won't date a smoker for exemple, as like I said, cigarette smell gives me headaches. I don't live in an utopia, i just happened to befriend the people that didn't had to go out to smoke during high school, just like you befriended the ones who did. Also my social life is doing good, but nice ad hominem. I think i'm pretty reasonable to be honest, I don't care what smokers do in their homes/private time, as long as they don't impose it on me. Not much to ask in my opinion. [quote]You cannot imagine how insulting all of this is, and how self-righteous and infuriating your post is, but no, nobody ever gets banned for it. Racism, prejudice, homophobia, political-correctness etc, but woe betide somebody wants to smoke a cigarette.[/quote] It's not an attack against you, you know. It's just that as a non smoker I see tons of smokers who act like asses. Like at the bus stop or at a restaurant's terrace. Using your analogy with homosexuality : seeing a gay person doesn't affect me, if this gay person tries to touch my butt, he's crossing the line. Doesn't matter if he's gay, smoker, white or black, it's just not respectful.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;47853617]Actually, something wrong with your nose. Smoking regularly is going to make you totally unaware of exactly how much those fucking things smell because you get accustomed to the smell. Non-smokers walking anywhere (particularly enclosed spaces) that someone has smoked in recently will notice that shit straight away. It's really quite strong.[/QUOTE] I don't smoke in enclosed spaces, ever. I smoke but I'm not Hitler with it. I know what a polite thing to do and not to do is. If I want to smoke and people are stood near me, I'll walk away a respectable distance and keep myself to myself.

Look, I've got family members who smoke with respect for others and family members who don't. I know both sides of this argument, and I've got no problems with smoking on it's own. However, you just decided to compare your smoking habits with homosexuality, so...

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47853619]Nice one for that These threads are always funny and interesting because every single fucking non-smoker on this forum is so up their own asses about how to be a smoker is the worst sin of all time. This thread makes us feel practically fucking sub-human, the way you all circlejerk around it. I'm not acting entitled, I'm acting defensive. It's you who are acting entitled, like your personal space is more important than any other's. You're obviously young as fuck or you would know that everyone is entitled. I can damn straight walk down the street with a cigarette if I wanted to. It's legal, nobody cares. If somebody wants to cross the road to avoid the smell, go for it. Don't force your perfect snobbery down my throat though, and I won't inject lung cancer into your bodies (as you act). It's not even that big of a deal, learn to live with each other but you're acting like you have no idea how most adults actually function. Replace what you're saying with homosexuality "I don't mind what they do in their own homes as long as they don't force me to be there and watch it. It's called respect." No. I have the right to smoke outdoors. I'm not an asshole that goes around smoking in primary school classrooms or in an asthmatic's support group. But if I'm walking anywhere outside, I'll walk with a cigarette, and enjoy it. Get off your high fucking horses.[/QUOTE] Classic entitled smoker, I bet you expect the NHS to foot the bill as well when you get lung cancer or some other smoking related disease, the less smokers are socially accepted the better.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47853619]Nice one for that These threads are always funny and interesting because every single fucking non-smoker on this forum is so up their own asses about how to be a smoker is the worst sin of all time. This thread makes us feel practically fucking sub-human, the way you all circlejerk around it. I'm not acting entitled, I'm acting defensive. It's you who are acting entitled, like your personal space is more important than any other's. You're obviously young as fuck or you would know that everyone is entitled. I can damn straight walk down the street with a cigarette if I wanted to. It's legal, nobody cares. If somebody wants to cross the road to avoid the smell, go for it. Don't force your perfect snobbery down my throat though, and I won't inject lung cancer into your bodies (as you act). It's not even that big of a deal, learn to live with each other but you're acting like you have no idea how most adults actually function. Replace what you're saying with homosexuality "I don't mind what they do in their own homes as long as they don't force me to be there and watch it. It's called respect." No. I have the right to smoke outdoors. I'm not an asshole that goes around smoking in primary school classrooms or in an asthmatic's support group. But if I'm walking anywhere outside, I'll walk with a cigarette, and enjoy it. Get off your high fucking horses. You cannot imagine how insulting all of this is, and how self-righteous and infuriating your post is, but no, nobody ever gets banned for it. Racism, prejudice, homophobia, political-correctness etc, but woe betide somebody wants to smoke a cigarette.[/QUOTE] Calm down, smoke a cigarette, you'll live longer.

[QUOTE=NapyDaWise;47853631]Your freedom to smoke depends only on yourself, you smoke when you want. My freedom to not smoke depends on random people in the street not smoking when i'm there. It's a thing called respect. I know people that want to make it illegal to smoke, are against drugs or alcohol. I find that pretty dumb, but there still need to be limits in order to not step on other people's liberties. Never said that, I see friends struggling with trying to stop for years. I know it's hard to stop. But it's not because it's hard that I have to endure it. I've got problems and addiction myself, none of which affect others. That's the difference. Not smoking is limitating in society. I won't date a smoker for exemple, as like I said, cigarette smell gives me headaches. I don't live in an utopia, i just happened to befriend the people that didn't had to go out to smoke during high school, just like you befriended the ones who did. Also my social life is doing good, but nice ad hominem. I think i'm pretty reasonable to be honest, I don't care what smokers do in their homes/private time, as long as they don't impose it on me. Not much to ask in my opinion.[/QUOTE] Are you fucking kidding me? You think that because I smoke in the street? I don't have respect for people? And WOW. I didn't just so happen to befriend smokers. I befriended everybody in my year group, regardless of whether or not they enjoyed smoking. It didn't matter. To any of us. You're not reasonable. You're have the typical approach to this as homophobics had/have. "I don't care what smokers do in their homes/private time, as long as they don't impose it on me." Smoking a cigarette on the same street as you is not "imposing" anything. I'm out. This is so blindly offensive I can't believe this kind of derogatory discrimination isn't being banned for.

[QUOTE=Chryseus;47853665]Classic entitled smoker, I bet you expect the NHS to foot the bill as well when you get lung cancer or some other smoking related disease, the less smokers are socially accepted the better.[/QUOTE] If you're going to go down that route, you should be applying that rigorously to every aspect of life, no? If you're not trying to make your life last longer, than you're making last shorter, and should be discriminated against harshly, as you say they should be. I don't smoke around people who don't like it. I don't bother people with my habbit, and I keep it to myself. If people want to get mad about that, fine, but I'm not going to be made to feel guilty for harming no one and being respectful of others.

[QUOTE=Chryseus;47853665]Classic entitled smoker, I bet you expect the NHS to foot the bill as well when you get lung cancer or some other smoking related disease, the less smokers are socially accepted the better.[/QUOTE] Do you realise how much you all sound like ethnic cleansers? You all rate each other agree as much as you want though in your circlejerk

[I]"I can't believe I'm being oppressed at THIS PARTY OF NON-SMOKERS. I bet you guys hate the gays too!"[/I]

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47853687]Are you fucking kidding me? You think that because I smoke in the street? I don't have respect for people? And WOW. I didn't just so happen to befriend smokers. I befriended everybody in my year group, regardless of whether or not they enjoyed smoking. It didn't matter. To any of us. You're not reasonable. You're have the typical approach to this as homophobics had/have. "I don't care what smokers do in their homes/private time, as long as they don't impose it on me." Smoking a cigarette on the same street as you is not "imposing" anything. I'm out. This is so blindly offensive I can't believe this kind of derogatory discrimination isn't being banned for.[/QUOTE] You're not some oppressed minority for smoking, get over yourself. Anti-smoking is not even remotely equal to homophobia. [editline]1st June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Cypher_09;47853704]Do you realise how much you all sound like ethnic cleansers?[/QUOTE] Are you trolling?

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47853619]Nice one for that These threads are always funny and interesting because every single fucking non-smoker on this forum is so up their own asses about how to be a smoker is the worst sin of all time. This thread makes us feel practically fucking sub-human, the way you all circlejerk around it. I'm not acting entitled, I'm acting defensive. It's you who are acting entitled, like your personal space is more important than any other's. You're obviously young as fuck or you would know that everyone is entitled. I can damn straight walk down the street with a cigarette if I wanted to. It's legal, nobody cares. If somebody wants to cross the road to avoid the smell, go for it. Don't force your perfect snobbery down my throat though, and I won't inject lung cancer into your bodies (as you act). It's not even that big of a deal, learn to live with each other but you're acting like you have no idea how most adults actually function. Replace what you're saying with homosexuality "I don't mind what they do in their own homes as long as they don't force me to be there and watch it. It's called respect." No. I have the right to smoke outdoors. I'm not an asshole that goes around smoking in primary school classrooms or in an asthmatic's support group. But if I'm walking anywhere outside, I'll walk with a cigarette, and enjoy it. Get off your high fucking horses. You cannot imagine how insulting all of this is, and how self-righteous and infuriating your post is, but no, nobody ever gets banned for it. Racism, prejudice, homophobia, political-correctness etc, but woe betide somebody wants to smoke a cigarette.[/QUOTE] Firstly, you're misrepresenting their argument to make it seem more extreme. The only one making you defensive is you, it's not anyone's fault but yours, you didn't have to take all of it personally. We don't think our personal space is more important than yours, but because you're the one causing the disturbance in public, it should be you who has to stop doing it is that you're doing. Yes, obviously it's legal, it's also obnoxious and DOES obviously bother people. The homosexuality part is just stupid

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47853687]I'm out. This is so blindly offensive I can't believe this kind of derogatory discrimination isn't being banned for.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Cypher_09;47853704]Do you realise how much you all sound like ethnic cleansers?[/QUOTE] Are you out or not?

Like you people want to get mad about every smoker. You know what? Fuck that. Most smokers I know are fairly respectful of other people. The smokers you SHOULD be mad about, are the ones that smoke around their children like in this story. I've seen a number of people pushing their children in baby strollers and smoking. That's fucking terrible and unacceptable. How about you people focus your rage at people who aren't just standing there and doing nothing to you?

[QUOTE=SIRIUS;47853712]Firstly, you're misrepresenting their argument to make it seem more extreme. The only one making you defensive is you, it's not anyone's fault but yours, you didn't have to take all of it personally. We don't think our personal space is more important than yours, but because you're the one causing the disturbance in public, it should be you who has to stop doing it is that you're doing. Yes, obviously it's legal, it's also obnoxious and DOES obviously bother people. The homosexuality part is just stupid[/QUOTE] Read the way I've been described by these people. Because I get defensive for no reason...

I don't have a problem with smokers, as stated before. The problem are the inconsiderate and the Cypher_09s of the world that don't get it.

[QUOTE=Chryseus;47853665]Classic entitled smoker, I bet you expect the NHS to foot the bill as well when you get lung cancer or some other smoking related disease, the less smokers are socially accepted the better.[/QUOTE] They should, it's their job. If you don't want to pay for other people's medical expenses, maybe you shouldn't have socialized medicine.

You do get defensive for no reason, you do something that is disgusting and causes people harm, but you won't even think about not doing it because.... Why the fuck not???

Smoking kills....

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47853687]You're not reasonable. You're have the typical approach to this as homophobics had/have. "I don't care what smokers do in their homes/private time, as long as they don't impose it on me." Smoking a cigarette on the same street as you is not "imposing" anything.[/QUOTE] I edited my last post : [quote]It's not an attack against you, you know. It's just that as a non smoker I see tons of smokers who act like asses. Like at the bus stop or at a restaurant's terrace. Using your analogy with homosexuality : seeing a gay person doesn't affect me, if this gay person tries to touch my butt, he's crossing the line. Doesn't matter if he's gay, smoker, white or black, it's just not respectful.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47853211]Fuck you back, I don't give a shit if you're that guy who sees a smoker in the street and casts their nose up in disgust. Walk away. Judge these smokers, don't suddenly throw the blanket over us all. I 100% will not smoke around anybody with children, children themselves or anybody expositions to breathing ailments. You respect people who turn to e-cigs, that do more harm than good to their insides, because at least you don't have to smell the smoke?[/QUOTE] You smoke and should feel bad about it ecigs are barely, if not at all harmful to the one smoking, and it sure as hell isn't harmful to anyone around them [QUOTE=Cypher_09;47853704]Do you realise how much you all sound like ethnic cleansers? You all rate each other agree as much as you want though in your circlejerk[/QUOTE] yes, totally, we are ethnic cleansers, smokers should be gassed like the vegans were in the holocaust of 1995 bless the great non-smoker race

[QUOTE=wauterboi;47853715]Are you out or not?[/QUOTE] if he wasnt before, he sure is now In any case it's people's personal issue if they want to smoke, though I plug that it's best to not start in the first place. Do it behind closed doors or in other secluded places. Don't smoke in public, no matter what you'd think a very dim view is taken on smoking in general. It's just how public opinion is on the matter.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;47853750]Smoking kills....[/QUOTE] So does living. What's your point?

You wanna know something interesting? I'm 20 years old, and it wasn't until the age of around 10 that I found out that my grandmother smokes. I've known her my entire life and regularly visited her house and she smoked either in her room or outside when we were asleep, and the only reason I found out about her smoking was simply because my mother talked about it. Since I've matured and all that, she's not the most shy about it being visible but she still doesn't smoke around other people. I was also raised by a family friend who smoked all the time, and he didn't smoke near us. He'd smoke around the house and especially outside, but he did not smoke where we were breathing. I'm pretty sure my grandmother on the other side smokes, and I know a lot of smokers at my college. They smoke in designated areas and away from others and it's totally fine. I don't care. Smoking is bad, and smoking can be inconsiderate, so I don't see what the problem is of establishing mannerisms for smoking. To have a problem with that is to be entitled, and the world shouldn't owe you anything for your habits.

tbh I like the smell of smoke a bit but whenever I see middle/high schoolers smoking I think of them as the dumbest decision makers I've ever seen. How pitifully screwed in the head are you to take on a habit like that that young? when it was way back when they didn't bother educating about how bad it was it's more understandable, or when you're an adult it's at least a knowing decision. But when you have all this information in your face at all times about how absolutely idiotic the idea is, how do you do such a stupid thing If you're old enough to make the decision then I could care less, that doesn't effect me really but what the fuck man