Crimean Parliament votes to join Russian Federation - Polidicks

[QUOTE=gudman;44146844]That's gonna be fun. I wonder how many countries will recognize this kind of referendum. One, or would Nauru strike again?[/QUOTE] My country (Venezuela) will surely recognize it. And then they dare call other countries [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-26461530"]lackeys of the U.S.[/URL]

[QUOTE=barttool;44156632]My country (Venezuela) will surely recognize it. And then they dare call other countries [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-26461530"]lackeys of the U.S.[/URL][/QUOTE] Well Venezuela didn't recognize Georgian secessions. Why would it now?

[QUOTE=gudman;44156643]Well Venezuela didn't recognize Georgian secessions. Why would it now?[/QUOTE] They did: [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-11/venezuela-recognises-rebel-georgian-regions-chavez/1424872?section=justin[/url]

[QUOTE=barttool;44156650]They did: [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-11/venezuela-recognises-rebel-georgian-regions-chavez/1424872?section=justin[/url][/QUOTE] Didn't Chavez backpedal with "oh our parliament doesn't want to" or was it someone else? I remember something like this, well, clearly I remember wrong.

[QUOTE=gudman;44155982]Uh we're not poor. But we're gonna be if the trade sanctions will be imposed yes. Purchasing power will hit the floor on most everything but necessity, food and necessary stuff are going to be supported by the state, no doubt. [/QUOTE] I didn't mean to imply everyone in Russia was poor, but surely like every country you have people that are and they're going to suffer.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;44157625]I didn't mean to imply everyone in Russia was poor, but surely like every country you have people that are and they're going to suffer.[/QUOTE] Yes, that is correct, but what I tried to say is that everyone but small groups of people are soon going to be really rather poor if trade sanctions will be imposed. Those who are already way below the average level are just fucked, yes.

How does the US, and EU respond to this?

[QUOTE=gudman;44156665]Didn't Chavez backpedal with "oh our parliament doesn't want to" or was it someone else? I remember something like this, well, clearly I remember wrong.[/QUOTE] Psst....chavez is dead Pssst.....I should read carefully :suicide:

Crimean self defence air force spotted in Sevastopol. [IMG]http://s019.radikal.ru/i633/1403/ab/67022a67b01d.jpg[/IMG]

It's rather interesting how ubiquitous the Hind is. In ex-Soviet countries, people probably lose half a dozen of them daily, rolling out of their pockets and in between the gaps in the sofa. Yet still Finland has no attack helicopters at all :c

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;44158170]It's rather interesting how ubiquitous the Hind is. In ex-Soviet countries, people probably lose half a dozen of them daily, rolling out of their pockets and in between the gaps in the sofa. Yet still Finland has no attack helicopters at all :c[/QUOTE] Buy some Mi-35. Czechs don't complain.

[QUOTE=Mabus;44147050]Is it so hard to believe that there's a large group of people in Crimea who actually want to be in the Russian Federation. Let them have their referendum and be done with it. Hopefully then the Russian troops will leave.[/QUOTE] Especially since they had a similar referendum 1 year ago and it failed

[QUOTE=Killuah;44158518]Especially since they had a similar referendum 1 year ago and it failed[/QUOTE] People might be motivated to leave Ukraine and join RF from lack of faith in government or Ukraine's financial situation. People on the fence from either side of the voters will be rethinking their last decision I think.

Oh wait, it's called "Information Warfare".

"As it turns out, 2012 GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney was right, too, when in the third presidential debate President Obama ridiculed him for listing, in response to a question, the Russia of Vladimir Putin as our number one strategic geopolitical threat. 'You said Russia. Not al-Qaida. You said Russia,' Obama rebuked him regarding our biggest threats. 'the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because … the Cold War’s been over for 20 years,' said the president who promised the Russians more flexibility as he disarmed the United States." remember this? Seems weird to look back on that

[QUOTE=Glitchman;44160176]"As it turns out, 2012 GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney was right, too, when in the third presidential debate President Obama ridiculed him for listing, in response to a question, the Russia of Vladimir Putin as our number one strategic geopolitical threat. 'You said Russia. Not al-Qaida. You said Russia,' Obama rebuked him regarding our biggest threats. 'the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because … the Cold War’s been over for 20 years,' said the president who promised the Russians more flexibility as he disarmed the United States." remember this? Seems weird to look back on that[/QUOTE] Even then suggestion that Al-Qaeda can somehow be "[i]geopolitical[/i] threat" seemed stupid to me.

What the Crimeans want should be the priority when it comes to this stuff. The occupationish situation makes the vote a bit questionable but I think they probably do support this.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;44160305]What the Crimeans want should be the priority when it comes to this stuff. The occupationish situation makes the vote a bit questionable but I think they probably do support this.[/QUOTE] You gave me an idea. Here's this hypothetical situation: Crimea votes for integration (that I doubt strongly, but w/e, not the point). No one of course recognizes it, but when that ever bothered anyone? So Crimea gets integrated into the Russian Federation. Sanctions get imposed on Russia. All crimean folks get subjected to sanctions :v: