Obama rules out Syria ground invasion, asks critics to explain what their next step would be after t

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The U.S. should just invade. It would boost the economy.

[Doom64hunter]

[QUOTE=BananaFoam;49146671]He's taking time to cultivate a plan. That's the point of him saying we shouldn't "shoot first and aim later".

If we take on ISIS like we took on Al Qaeda, the only thing we will see from it is many thousands dead, many millions lost, and the enemy as strong as ever. These aren't conventional armies or countries, they are ideas, and ideas are fought with suppression.

[editline]19th November 2015[/editline]

It isn't unexpected, but that doesn't mean we know what to do about it.

Seriously, you sound exactly like the hawks rallying for war in Iraq. Think about our actions a little. The only people with "feel-good measures" are those who want to invade again in some childish reaction to "the evil bad guys". Guess what, it only made things worse before and it will only make things worse again.[/QUOTE]

You mean cultivated plans like using 500 million dollars to train 4-5 Syrian soldiers? With most of the supplies and funding going towards ISIS rather than the "moderate" rebels?

"If we retaliate it's exactly what ISIS wants!!" is such a dumb and tired meme. How could anyone want being utterly and completely destroyed? "It'll incite more extremism" is a useless argument since they're already gathering enough followers, especially from the West itself, without anybody having to start an offensive. It's barely going to make a difference in the end.
Someone slaps you, and your reaction is to just turn the other cheek for them to slap you again? Absolutely pathetic in my opinion.

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[QUOTE=BananaFoam;49146671]Seriously, you sound exactly like the hawks rallying for war in Iraq. Think about our actions a little. The only people with "feel-good measures" are those who want to invade again in some childish reaction to "the evil bad guys". Guess what, it only made things worse before and it will only make things worse again.[/QUOTE]

Read the [I]rest[/I] of what I said in the thread.