Gates: Microsoft will merge Phone and Windows platforms - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Altair_PT;38153779]Let Steam for Linux come out and see where I go to![/QUOTE] Alright, have fun with valve games and indie games.. You might as well use steam for mac

Windows 8 is not perfect, but I can't even imagine myself hating microsoft for trying. They're basically forcing developers in to making their apps work with touch and mouse/keyboard really well. So windows 8 isn't the final solution, but it is one step on the way to having maybe dockable devices that work with many form factors. Am I the only one who grokked this shit immediately when I first saw W8?

Once you get past the Metro interface, which can be more or less disabled using third party start menu software, it's really not that different from Windows 7. It feels very much the same with a few minor UI changes. I don't understand why Metro wasn't made optional, but as long as they don't start fighting the software that overrides it then I'm not complaining.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38158189]Alright, have fun with valve games and indie games.. You might as well use steam for mac[/QUOTE] I sure will! I mean, I purely use Linux and still spend significant amount of my free time playing games. And it's not as bad as you think with the choice if you give Wine a bit love and attention. I finished Dishonored few days after release. I could be blasting XCOM like a champ (although that's supposedly crashy at least so far). I had real blast with Black Mesa: Source, I can go lose my life to EVE or WoW or WoT (which I actually do, hehehe), in Linux, as well. You can play many many games on Linux, already, although it's true you give up a lot of comfort, but hey, it's Linux! Steam going Linux ways will be only sweet comfy frosting on the cake. [editline]24th October 2012[/editline] I am not implying that people who like games SHOULD move to Linux, I am just pointing out that it's not nearly as LIMITING as people seem to believe.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38158189]Alright, have fun with valve games and indie games.. You might as well use steam for mac[/QUOTE] I don't even like Mac... Neither iOS, Although I find that it's way more easier to develop for a Mac or a iOS device than an Windows/Linux/Android machine, because theres less variables on the hardware, screen size and many other stuff.

Windows 8 looks more cluttered and cluttered... I will probably stay on 7 I have it ready to install on a deevedee but damn 1500$ just to get a new gaming pc,monitor and 5.1 audio set up seems insane to me. I guess upgrading from this old ass 2003 pc is worth the money.

[QUOTE=hamar;38166328]Windows 8 looks more cluttered and cluttered... I will probably stay on 7 I have it ready to install on a deevedee but damn 1500$ just to get a new gaming pc,monitor and 5.1 audio set up seems insane to me. I guess upgrading from this old ass 2003 pc is worth the money.[/QUOTE] It's not cluttered at all. Actually, I find myself using Metro more and more.

what's so goddamned hard about having two different OSs for two completely different systems

[QUOTE=latin_geek;38167131]what's so goddamned hard about having two different OSs for two completely different systems[/QUOTE] To be fair, having related themes is reasonable. The location of buttons and tools should be similar.

[QUOTE=latin_geek;38167131]what's so goddamned hard about having two different OSs for two completely different systems[/QUOTE] All PC's in the future will have touchscreens, even desktops that come with mice and keyboards

My god, he's aged like a pear!

[QUOTE=The Baconator;38168688]All PC's in the future will have touchscreens, even desktops that come with mice and keyboards[/QUOTE] I'm not actually sure of this. I have the feeling we will be looking at 3D VR stuff before touchscreens become ubiquitous. At the end of the day, touchscreens are far more expensive to manufacture, and provide nearly nothing on a desktop.

Windows 8 looks like it will be hard to get use to but I hear it is really fast.

[QUOTE=latin_geek;38167131]what's so goddamned hard about having two different OSs for two completely different systems[/QUOTE] Having to write separate software for both WinAPI and Metro would be pretty annoying. Updating them both. Honestly, it's not like you're losing any functionality with Metro - you're only gaining it. [editline]25th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=wilson23;38172303]Windows 8 looks like it will be hard to get use to but I hear it is really fast.[/QUOTE] It's not hard at all. Here are all the Metro things you need to know: [b]Top left[/b] corner - running Metro apps (Desktop is considered an app in there), you can drag an app to use it side by side. [b]Top right[/b] and [b]bottom right[/b] corners - [i]Charm bar[/i]. Let's you search stuff, share stuff, open the start menu, shows your devices. Settings menu either shows you settings for the app you're currently running, or quick shortcuts to PC info, Control Panel, Help, and Personalization. Also at any time it shows your network status, screen brightness (if it's changeable), volume, and lets you turn your PC off. Finally, it has a shortcut to "PC settings" - basically the Control Panel for Metro stuff. [b]Bottom left[/b] corner - [i]Start Screen[/i]. You can pin any apps and folders to it. Drag icons to rearrange. Right click on an icon to: uninstall the app, run it as administrator and to pin/unpin it. Right click anywhere to access all apps. You can just start typing on the start screen to search like you would do on Windows 7. Metro apps: Right click to access extra options. If your screen resolution is larger than 1360x768, you can run 2 apps side by side. Drag an app from the top left corner to pin it. Drag the bar between the apps to resize them. And that's all there is to Metro.

People have hated Microsoft for making a new OS every time, this is nothing new. The amount of hatred they get for making a new OS is the usual.