[QUOTE=Pnukup;45591665]Imagine how many people read your emails without your knowledge...[/QUOTE]
yeah, they have my condolences.
[QUOTE=Waffle cones.;45591615]Can't say I'm surprised with a face like that.
[IMG]http://www1.pcmag.com/media/images/436590-john-henry-skillern.jpg?thumb=y[/IMG][/QUOTE]
he reminds me of a Sim
[editline]4th August 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45592224]Practices like this could soooo easily be converted to turning people in to the police for organizing protests, engaging in anti-government rhetoric, talking to the press, using drugs, owning guns, modifying cars, pretty much anything, really. The pedophile thing is just a low-hanging fruit. Better not do anything remotely questionable on Gmail, because sooner or later Google is going to expand the list of things they'll rat you out for.[/QUOTE]
umm yeah 1. it uses the saaame exact shit that reverse google image uses, AKA it only works with pictures and not plaintext, 2. take your tin foil hat off because you sound really dumb with that shit
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;45592079]If you use someone else's service, and Google is someone else, then [B]why would you think your communications are secret[/B]? If it's that important you'd encrypt it before uploading at least. I mean you could send a Photoshop file with two layers, including a top layer of puppies and unicorns, so this hashing thing won't work. Then the perv you're sending it to just removes the layer and presto![/QUOTE]
Secrecy of correspondence. It's legally mandated in many countries (US included) for snail mail.
Depending on where you live, probably for electronic mail too.
Not that it's a replacement for encryption when you expect (or want to rule out the factor of) someone/something along the line breaking it, of course.
[QUOTE=Bazsil;45592300]he reminds me of a Sim
[editline]4th August 2014[/editline]
umm yeah 1. it uses the saaame exact shit that reverse google image uses, AKA it only works with pictures and not plaintext, 2. take your tin foil hat off because you sound really dumb with that shit[/QUOTE]
I doubt Google does anything involving their search terms anyways due to the ease of saying something like "look up X for something cool", when it ends up being CP. That has happened like 3 times to me online, 2 of them were completely innocuous seeming(like a 4? character string was one, other was a name I think), the other was a string of numbers and letters. The number of people that fell for any of those would be immense.
Oh not to mention also the time where someone posted several threads throughout face punch with a link to a CP site a while back.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;45591685]Probably the same way google's reverse image search works. Scans a picture, checks for similar pictures in a database, connects them when they're the same.[/QUOTE]
Wouldnt that mean google has a child porn database
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;45591685]Probably the same way google's reverse image search works. Scans a picture, checks for similar pictures in a database, connects them when they're the same.[/QUOTE]
... Does this mean Google is keeping a massive collection of CP on a server somewhere? :v:
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;45592517]... Does this mean Google is keeping a massive collection of CP on a server somewhere? :v:[/QUOTE]
no, just hashes of some kind that represent their content
[QUOTE=Bazsil;45592300]
umm yeah 1. it uses the saaame exact shit that reverse google image uses, AKA it only works with pictures and not plaintext, 2. take your tin foil hat off because you sound really dumb with that shit[/QUOTE]
They already scan e-mail text for advertising purposes, so it's a very small jump from "searching attachments for child porn" to "scanning text for references to child porn". Also, Google isn't getting a warrant for this shit, they're just handing it over to cops voluntarily without consulting users. It's a huge privacy backdoor for law enforcement that could be used for any purpose Google could be persuaded to use it for. Granted, all the content of everything on Google's servers is an open book to the NSA, but now Google is handing that information over at the local law enforcement level.
Remember McCarthyism? That could happen again, very easily, and could be much worse when Google starts trawling through people's e-mails and flagging them as communist or atheist or whatever-ist the government decides to go after in the future.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;45592517]... Does this mean Google is keeping a massive collection of CP on a server somewhere? :v:[/QUOTE]
Everything is just data to a computer. To you or me it could be a picture, a document, a spreadsheet, a movie. To a computer it's all the same. So all you'd have to do is tell the computer to look for this type of data(image) that matches this data(CP) and flag it. The FBI and police departments all over the country have a large database filled with the data 'fingerprints' of known CP files, so Google's computers can simply crosscheck anything that gets flagged with that and there you go.
[QUOTE=Shadaez;45592533]no, just hashes of some kind that represent their content[/QUOTE]
Then again Google probably could get away with something like that. Not that they ever would have any reason.
Now we wait for people to start swarm-emailing CP to people they don't like off of burner accounts for the lulz.
[QUOTE=Grimhound;45592756]Now we wait for people to start swarm-emailing CP to people they don't like off of burner accounts for the lulz.[/QUOTE]
It probably only triggers on sending emails, not receiving them.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;45591685]Probably the same way google's reverse image search works. Scans a picture, checks for similar pictures in a database, connects them when they're the same.[/QUOTE]
this means google has got whole database of child pornography, and since storing cp is illegal... you got the point.
[QUOTE=Grimhound;45592756]Now we wait for people to start swarm-emailing CP to people they don't like off of burner accounts for the lulz.[/QUOTE]
Well in this case it's the sender that got put in jail so that would basically do nothing to the receiving end.
[QUOTE=cucumber;45592785]this means google has got whole database of child pornography, and since storing cp is illegal... you got the point.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure police and their contractors aren't breaking the law by actively looking for CP.
For reasons like this, legal storage of CP could certainly be arranged.
[QUOTE=Waffle cones.;45591615]Can't say I'm surprised with a face like that.
[IMG]http://www1.pcmag.com/media/images/436590-john-henry-skillern.jpg?thumb=y[/IMG][/QUOTE]
When did Jon Lovitz mate with Brandon Hardesty?
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45592224]Practices like this could soooo easily be converted to turning people in to the police for organizing protests, engaging in anti-government rhetoric, talking to the press, using drugs, owning guns, modifying cars, pretty much anything, really. The pedophile thing is just a low-hanging fruit. Better not do anything remotely questionable on Gmail, because sooner or later Google is going to expand the list of things they'll rat you out for.[/QUOTE]
People have been getting busted for looking at child porn on the internet since the internet has existed. None of your fears have come true yet.
[QUOTE=st_nick5;45591903]I had someone from Mexico logging into my email account a few weeks ago. I've no idea how they got in either. Hadn't even logged into that email account for months.[/QUOTE]
The only time that's ever happened to me was when a random shitty forum I signed up for years ago was compromised, and I used the same password on the e-mail address I had used to sign up.
It was a throwaway e-mail so they didn't get much.
[QUOTE=dumbfox;45592179]Can I have that recipe? I really like french onion soup.[/QUOTE]
it's like any other recipe for french onion soup, but with champagne instead of normal white wine, and a little bit of chopped ginger mixed in for a kick.
The important political leakers have come out and said "if you knew what I knew about email, you wouldn't be using it". "If you're not paying for something, you are the product". That certainly applies here. These scans are what Google get out of giving you a gmail account with 10gb of storage for free.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;45591632]Frankly the idea of a mail provider scanning mail for illegal content and then informing the police about it is [I]really[/I] creepy.
No matter what that content is.[/QUOTE]
It's Google. It should be expected. Hell, they've probably done more to stop CP in the last 5 years than the NSA has done ever.
[QUOTE=Xyrec;45591691]I once had some random IP address from China reading my e-mail, I quickly changed my passwords, and hope it never happens again. I'm still wondering how the hell they got access to begin with.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=st_nick5;45591903]I had someone from Mexico logging into my email account a few weeks ago. I've no idea how they got in either. Hadn't even logged into that email account for months.[/QUOTE]
2-step authentication.
Google even will take the liberty to warn you the next time you access Gmail if someone from an outside country accesses your account, and will ask to confirm whether or not it was you.
I'll just leave this here...
[url]https://protonmail.ch/[/url]
The thing that worries me about child abusers, is that they always fall for trivial shit that nobody smart would get caught by.
So, either all child abusers are worthless when it comes to technology, or there's a large amount of smart ones that actually know how to protect themselves, and only the dumb ones get caught.
If there are smart ones, they're probably using the same tech I use for anonymity (Tor), data security (LUKS) etc.
is anyone really using email for anything these days other than account verification?
i mean you've got facebook, twitter, and texting but YEAH GOTTA SEND SOME EMAILS!
what's next, guy gets caught download loli from aim???
[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;45591925]All my university documents, projects and messages to colleagues. I don't like that tbh, i don't want some random google employee knowing everything about me.[/QUOTE]
Don't use email or stuff like Dropbox then, because as it stands they can't be secured easily, or at all.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45592224]Practices like this could soooo easily be converted to turning people in to the police for organizing protests, engaging in anti-government rhetoric, talking to the press, using drugs, owning guns, modifying cars, pretty much anything, really. The pedophile thing is just a low-hanging fruit. Better not do anything remotely questionable on Gmail, because sooner or later Google is going to expand the list of things they'll rat you out for.[/QUOTE]
I don't think you would have to worry about Google. I am sure most of the emails in some way get to the NSA.
It just hit me a few days ago that will all of my medical records, online records, and school-related records, the government has so much information on me and every other citizen. And then you get those supped-up Metro police (not referencing Half-Life I swear, look them up) that have started monitoring streets in places like Camden and tracking individuals. It makes me wonder just how much our government really knows about all of our personal lives.
Then I realized that I didn't fucking care, because I have yet to do something illegal anyways.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;45594100]Then I realized that I didn't fucking care, because I have yet to do something illegal anyways.[/QUOTE]
This kind of thinking is what allows them to do this in the first place.
[QUOTE=Novangel;45594158]This kind of thinking is what allows them to do this in the first place.[/QUOTE]
Which is pretty great in my opinion.
A dude sharing child porn around was arrested due to an extremely well working automated system.
If you have something to hide, use something else.
[QUOTE=Waffle cones.;45591615]Can't say I'm surprised with a face like that.
[IMG]http://www1.pcmag.com/media/images/436590-john-henry-skillern.jpg?thumb=y[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Holy crap.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/mmrnpmU.jpg[/img]
Childhood officially ruined, probably to his great delight.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;45595020]
Childhood officially ruined[/QUOTE]We all know its neither true nor funny
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