Breaking: Photo of Bergdahl with Haqqani Official Surfaces
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[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;45354200]Not necessarily, see: POW's during the Vietnam War. This is the precise reason we have the code of conduct, it works when adhered to.[/QUOTE]
I don't really think the POWs during the vietnam war were treated in any way that can make them sympathize with their captors. It's something completely different when you are the [I]only[/I] POW they need to take care of, and they know they can bargain because of you.
People will find any reason to sympathize with someone who willingly walked off his army base, unarmed, and was the cause of half a dozen deaths of Americans who were tasked with trying to find his dumb ass.
Fuck this guy. Fuck Obongo. And fuck everyone sympathizing with him.
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[QUOTE=Venezuelan;45353471] I'm anti-death penalty and I don't buy the excuse that war is any different,[/QUOTE]
Because you've been to war right?
[QUOTE=avincent;45354997]People will find any reason to sympathize with someone who willingly walked off his army base, unarmed, and [B]was the cause of half a dozen deaths of Americans who were tasked with trying to find his dumb ass[/B].
Fuck this guy. Fuck Obongo. And fuck everyone sympathizing with him.
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Is there actually any proof to this claim? And there's absolutely nothing that made this mission much more dangereous than their previous, so why aren't people being this enraged when soldiers die doing "stupid" stuff like courtesy patrols and protecting the civilian populace?
This guy fucked up. That doesn't mean he should be left to rot, and it doesn't mean he killed the people who allegedly died for him.
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Fuck this guy. Fuck Obongo. And fuck everyone sympathizing with him.
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Get a load of this guy
stick it to the man, man
[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;45355246]Is there actually any proof to this claim? And there's absolutely nothing that made this mission much more dangereous than their previous, so why aren't people being this enraged when soldiers die doing "stupid" stuff like courtesy patrols and protecting the civilian populace?
This guy fucked up. That doesn't mean he should be left to rot, and it doesn't mean he killed the people who allegedly died for him.[/QUOTE]
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
this guy served in a line infantry unit
he knew [B]everything[/B] they knew.
they were ambushed and attacked (often while searching for him) in ways that were only possible because of information that bergdahl was definitely giving to the "taliban"
[QUOTE=Leon;45355287]uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
this guy served in a line infantry unit
he knew [B]everything[/B] they knew.
they were ambushed and attacked (often while searching for him) in ways that were only possible because of information that bergdahl was definitely giving to the "taliban"[/QUOTE]
I'd [I]love[/I] a source on that, because all I've found is that [URL="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/02/pentagon-to-look-into-allegations-soldiers-killed-effort-to-recover-bergdahl/"]"Pentagon spokesman Col. Steve Warren said it's "impossible" to confirm right now whether anybody's death was directly linked to the hunt for Bergdahl. "
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my source is a now long gone comment on a facebook page from an infantryman who was in his platoon on the same outpost as him at the same time he defected
i looked the dude up though and he was legit (not to mention it was posted on a facebook page literally dedicated to busting military posers soooooooo). im taking the word of someone who was there over anything else.
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definitely not going to be able to find it now but this was the page
[url]https://www.facebook.com/StolenValor[/url]
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but im not really going to argue it with you if you don't believe me because its a waste of time and i know it was legit
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also pentagon spokesmen are notorious liars like pretty much every other top official in the government
Your source was a long gone comment on facebook. Let me just stop you there.
Now you're taking the words of angry grunts on facebook as facts. Great, I'm sure they are the ones that have the full situational awareness of what has happened, considering all the bullshit claims that came from soldiers serving with Bergdahl.
You've clearly decided for yourself what happened and that he's a traitor that wanted death to america or something along the lines of that.
and they would definitely put out a statement like that since this is all bad pr for the military
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[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;45355372]Your source was a long gone comment on facebook. Let me just stop you there.
Now you're taking the words of angry grunts on facebook as facts. Great, I'm sure they are the ones that have the full situational awareness of what has happened, considering all the bullshit claims that came from soldiers serving with Bergdahl.
You've clearly decided for yourself what happened and that he's a traitor that wanted death to america or something along the lines of that.[/QUOTE]
and now you're taking this piss out of me in the most immature way lol
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but hey up to you what you believe
you can believe the bullshit on the news and from the government (a propaganda machine that goebbels couldn't have imagined) or you can believe the bullshit from the people who were literally there
[QUOTE=Leon;45355380]and they would definitely put out a statement like that since this is all bad pr for the military
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and now you're taking this piss out of me in the most immature way lol
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but hey up to you what you believe
you can believe the bullshit on the news and from the government or you can believe what the people who were literally there are saying[/QUOTE]
Is the basic concept of backing up rather serious claims lost to you?
i would find the quote if i could because i like having proof to what im saying as much as you do but its 2am and i'm not going to break my ass to prove a point to some norwegian dude on facepunch
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why dont you go searching all the posts about bergdahl on there im sure youll find it lol
Are you serious? It'd still be a fucking facebook quote. If you don't want to back something up, how about you don't run around claiming people to be traitors responsible for the death of other soldiers? :smile: No need to get pissy about it.
lol um ok
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i want to back it up but lol whatever
Is it conspiracy corner today or something?
a comment on facebook is a comment on facebook and his platoon members saying the same thing on media outlets is just as unreliable right
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[QUOTE=Lonestriper;45355486]Is it conspiracy corner today or something?[/QUOTE]
9/11 was an inside job
[QUOTE=Leon;45355494]a comment on facebook is a comment on facebook and his platoon members saying the same thing on media outlets is just as unreliable right
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I still see you arguing about this shit when you keep saying you don't care.
His platoon members are pissed off soldiers who will rather shout abuse than consider that it's still their duty to protect him, bring him back and treat him as innocent until proven otherwise.
rip
[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;45355526]His platoon members are pissed off soldiers who will rather shout abuse than consider that it's still their duty to protect him, bring him back and treat him as innocent until proven otherwise.[/QUOTE]
...or they were there, know what really happened, and are rightfully pissed-off
[QUOTE=Apache249;45355545]...or they were there, know what really happened, and are rightfully pissed-off[/QUOTE]
pretty much
gotta shoot the messenger in the dick first though
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and massively disrespect the people who were LITERALLY THERE
[QUOTE=Apache249;45355545]...or they were there, know what really happened, and are rightfully pissed-off[/QUOTE]
Then we should trust that this is taken into account. However, the official statements from soldiers related to the search for him say that additional searches were done, and that these patrols were vulnerable. They got hit by IEDs and single attacks, and the main reason deaths occured was because resources were directed to the search instead of the closure of COP Keating that was too dangereous to keep running.
Why is nobody blaming leadership for this bad management? Eight deaths were because they stopped doing everything else, not because some patrols were sent to look for him.
[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;45355526]. . .it's still their duty to protect him, bring him back and treat him as innocent until proven otherwise.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't mean they can't be pissed that some of their friends were killed directly or indirectly as a result of his actions.
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Because you've been to war right?[/QUOTE]
This isn't a classical war within the territory of an established enemy state and war zone with limited resources to take prisoners. There's no practical necessity to just pop someone in the head and be done with it anymore
MEMRI is a shit source, Sexual Shark. This whole story is mindbogglingly stupid in the insinuation it attempts to make.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Media_Research_Institute#Accusations_of_bias[/url]
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