[QUOTE=katbug;44701779]uuh, no, you stupid shit, we just broke 7 bil population recently and are are about 7.2 bil right now. Our carrying capacity is around 10 bil, MAYBE 14 bil. We're literally 199% fucked unless we curb our population.
If we overshoot carrying capacity, people won't just starve, a diseases will spread like wildfire, and nothing will stop them. A population crash WILL happen.
[editline]1st May 2014[/editline]
a disease like, ooh, I don't know, an antibiotic resistant superbug[/QUOTE]
"You stupid shit" seems whole unnecessary, especially since you completely missed the point. Yes, curb our population 2,800,000,000 people from now. He wasn't saying that an overly large population wasn't a problem, he was referring to the fact that there's a not insignificant amount of people who are convinced that we've already overshot the carrying capacity as of today, like the guy he was quoting.
[quote][b]There are too many people on the planet right now[/b]...
Plus now all those anti-vaccine people will die off for sure [/quote]
Where's bad reading when you need it.
And of course doctors are still handing out antibiotics like it's fucking candy.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;44701352]That can't be a real statistic. There are a million people a day contracting gonorrhea? That means that within two and a half years almost 12% of the world's population would have gonorrhea. Naturally, plenty of people already have it so with an average of a million people a day than we'd all contract gonorrhea at some point.[/QUOTE]
Well the population of Facepunch is safe because you gotta have sex to catch it.
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all those dots under 2.0 are developed countries aren't they?
[video=youtube;dD-yN2G5BY0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD-yN2G5BY0[/video]
I always go recreational with my antibiotics
[QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;44701425]doctors are shit as well though
ive been coughing up blood for ages now and have been on every antibiotic under the sun and it aint doing shit.
then they actually realised that surgery would fix it..[/QUOTE]
Maybe it's because they wanted to avoid invasive surgery and try all other options first?
Also the biggest problem is not just coming up with different ways to kill bacteria, that we are relatively good at. It is doing so without killing the person at the same time. Since the antibiotics the bacteria are rapidly developing resistance against to usually exploited the biggest differences between the bacteria and the host cells the newer antibiotics cause more collateral damage.
[QUOTE=Matthew0505;44701856]If we do manage to overpopulate, people will die until it's no longer overpopulated, so it's not like we'll go extinct.[/QUOTE]
Erm....excluding Nature's built-in controls, you are aware that it will start resource wars, right? Even if by some miracle we avoid having a natural population crash, the lack of resources will drive us to war, and if that happens...well...hope you've got a nice collection of bottlecaps lying around 'cause you're gonna need 'em.
[QUOTE=Jsm;44701369]To be honest the fear mongering is needed to get people to stop abusing antibiotics. Public awareness of the possible risk is what is needed, and its slowly getting out there. My local doctors for example now has like 5 posters up informing people that antibiotics cannot cure the common cold.[/QUOTE]
Most antibiotics abuse happens in animal raising, not in hospitals. Hell in the US it's still allowed to feed cows antibiotics because it increases milk yield. No other reason.
We need to, like effective immediately, stop and ban use of these antibiotics in our animals and start spreading out pamphlets that show what brands are safe to use for us to buy until it is deemed safe to continue to buy meat from the rest of the companies that produce the products, as well as when and when not antibiotics are effective for sickness. It's a long shot this will happen, especially right away but it's what we need to do.
[QUOTE=OvB;44701232]You don't just invent new antibiotics. This whole crisis is because bacteria are quickly evolving to adapt to every antibiotic we have in our arsenal.[/QUOTE]
Through bad use of antibiotics - things like unnecessary antibiotic prescriptions, overuse of broad spectrum powerful antibiotics to combat simple infections, and though patients not finishing antibiotic regimes. If they are properly managed, new antibiotics will last us longer.
There are also some older antibiotics which aren't widely resisted because we stopped using them en masse due to their side-effects, which we can use in the case of emergencies (such as Chloramphenicol).
Why not create some sort of a virus that destroys them, making it some sort of a anti-bacteria bio weapon
[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;44702908]Why not create some sort of a virus that destroys them, making it some sort of a anti-bacteria bio weapon[/QUOTE]
If I remember correctly, the idea of using nanotechnology to combat infections is being seriously considered/in early development stages.
[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;44702908]Why not create some sort of a virus that destroys them, making it some sort of a anti-bacteria bio weapon[/QUOTE]
There's a reason why we haven't done it yet. The virus would possibly mutate and destroy us.
[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;44701197]There [I]are[/I] too many people on the planet right now...
Plus now all those anti-vaccine people will die off for sure[/QUOTE]
Bacteria kills indiscriminately.
And fuck you for thinking you have the right to determine people 'deserving' of death.
[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;44702908]Why not create some sort of a virus that destroys them, making it some sort of a anti-bacteria bio weapon[/QUOTE]
It's a real thing.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phage_therapy[/url]
I don't know if this is the best new solution, but if it is, I sure hope pharmaceuticals companies hop on this quickly. I don't want to live in an age where medicine has been thrown back a hundred years. :(
Well I suppose that is what happens when you give antibiotics for even the slightest conditions for humans and just straight up feed them to livestock, just in case.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44716160]Well I suppose that is what happens when you give antibiotics for even the slightest conditions for humans and just straight up feed them to livestock, just in case.[/QUOTE]
Actually they're fed to livestock because of their corn diet. If cows could all just eat grass like they're supposed to and not get sick/have decreased milk production because of something about the corn, we'd probably have another easy hundred years of antibiotics.
Doctors hand out antibiotics because not doing so will result in a inevitable malpractice lawsuit, lawyers circle like crows for malpractice suits (as do most americans in general, those things can print dosh)
Its just idiots not finishing their full treatments that will skullfuck us
Meh, we already fucked up our gene pool, who cares if it gets a little dirty.
[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;44702908]Why not create some sort of a virus that destroys them, making it some sort of a anti-bacteria bio weapon[/QUOTE]
That's called a bacteriophage. A virus that replicates inside bacteria, causing their DNA to fuck up during reproduction, killing the bacteria.
[QUOTE=draugur;44719457]That's called a bacteriophage. A virus that replicates inside bacteria, causing their DNA to fuck up during reproduction, killing the bacteria.[/QUOTE]
The Russsians used them a lot during the cold war, IIRC, due to the fact that they didn't have access to the good antibiotics in the west.
[QUOTE=InsaneParrot;44715748]There's a reason why we haven't done it yet. The virus would possibly mutate and destroy us.[/QUOTE]
They're called Bacteriophages, meant solely to kill bacteria, sorta the reason why Ichthyophthirius multifiliis (Ick, for fishes) doesn't infect us. They're designed for bacteria and will only target bacteria.
One of the comments, not sure how true it is:
[QUOTE]Industry and policymakers: Stop putting antibiotics in cattle feed. 80% of antibiotics used in N. America are given to livestock to make more and bigger burgers.
Bacteria that also cause human infections are exposed to these antibiotics and develop resistance. Public: Stop eating meat.
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These articles keep popping up and I truly fear that one day a resistant super bug will happen. It sucks that we humans suck at looking at the long term good.
when I die I want a giant dickbutt statue to be made in my honor
[QUOTE=anis;44720215]One of the comments, not sure how true it is:[/QUOTE]
Fairly true on a lot of levels.
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