Alien life certain to exist on Earth-like planet, scientists say - Polidicks

[QUOTE=BANNED USER;25191233]Is it still racist if I hope they aren't blue?[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc[/media] their national album.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;25191264] Which is why we need to master wormhole technology.[/QUOTE] hey if I was chosen in the light speed crew I'd do the trip anyways, when the ship arrives people might have developed that tech and went ahead and colonized it already during those relativistic thousands of years, and the ship would arrive at a populated planet

[QUOTE=Orkel;25191438]hey if I was chosen in the light speed crew I'd do the trip anyways, when the ship arrives people might have developed that tech and went ahead and colonized it already during those relativistic thousands of years, and the ship would arrive at a populated planet[/QUOTE] But that's assuming that your "time" and "real" time can co-exist at the same time. YOU HAVE NO PROOF.

[QUOTE=Orkel;25191438]hey if I was chosen in the light speed crew I'd do the trip anyways, when the ship arrives people might have developed that tech and went ahead and colonized it already during those relativistic thousands of years, and the ship would arrive at a populated planet[/QUOTE] Or better, get in a relativistic ship that can be controlled by those on earth. Travel a week, get tech from 300 years in the future or whatever. [editline]07:05AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr. Deeps;25191471]But that's assuming that your "time" and "real" time can co-exist at the same time. YOU HAVE NO PROOF.[/QUOTE] uh what go learn some physics sonny.

[QUOTE=Orkel;25191228]only in the perspective of the crew from the perspective of people on earth the ship likely takes tens of thousands of years to reach it but thanks to relativity, it "only" feels like 20 years for the crew[/QUOTE] So 10000 years will go by on Earth and 20 on the ship?

[QUOTE=Sputn!k;25191761]So 10000 years will go by on Earth and 20 on the ship?[/QUOTE] Depends how fast it goes

[QUOTE=Sputn!k;25191761]So 10000 years will go by on Earth and 20 on the ship?[/QUOTE] *Actually around 26,000 years.

Time doesn't exist until you compare two items. If only one particle in the whole universe existed and nothing else, there would be no time. It is possible to travel backwards in time though, if you were able to put every particle and atom exactly where they were at a given time, which is impossible Anyway, 20 Light Years at our current fastest speed we travel at (17,500 or so, not the 70,000 Voyager travels since it weighs less than a Miata) it would take something like 766,000 Years to reach it. Hope your wills are filled out

[QUOTE=Orkel;25191228]only in the perspective of the crew from the perspective of people on earth the ship likely takes tens of thousands of years to reach it but thanks to relativity, it "only" feels like 20 years for the crew[/QUOTE] I'm not sure the physics of that work out. I believe a light year is how long we PERCEIVE light to take to reach its destination. So something traveling at light speed would, to an outside observer, take twenty years to reach the planet. Time would be compressed to the people aboard the ship. Because we have no method of measuring time from the perspective of light and therefore have no way of knowing how much time passes for light photons between points. Think about it. For it to be a light year, they must be going at 299,792,458 meters per second. If they aren't traveling it, then they will not cover the distance light does in a year. So an outside of observer would observe them going a significantly slower speed. So yeah, that doesn't work out at all. 20 years for earth at light speed, a fraction of that for the crew of the vessel.

[QUOTE=TheTalon;25191941]Time doesn't exist until you compare two items. If only one particle in the whole universe existed and nothing else, there would be no time. It is possible to travel backwards in time though, if you were able to put every particle and atom exactly where they were at a given time, which is impossible Anyway, 20 Light Years at our current fastest speed we travel at (17,500 or so, not the 70,000 Voyager travels since it weighs less than a Miata) it would take something like 766,000 Years to reach it. Hope your wills are filled out[/QUOTE] I looked that shit up and I challenge your mathematics, sir. And I don't think that's how time dilation works at light speed, Gunfox.

Damn, we need to get that technology for FTL, or something that can take a few seconds or days to reach that planet. Then again, they might be lower organisms, like bacteria, or we can wait for them to come to Earth, although that might be a problem.

[QUOTE=Jimpy;25191997]I looked that shit up and I challenge your mathematics, sir. And I don't think that's how time dilation works at light speed, Gunfox.[/QUOTE] 765257.14285714285714285714285714 Years to reach the planet at 17,500 Miles per hour Look at the bright side though, when you get there, you'll be a couple weeks younger to the people on earth than when you left! Wouldn't that be some shit though, if you arrived, and there was already earthlings there who greeted you? 'Yeah we developed FTL technology while you were enroute'

[QUOTE=Jimpy;25191997]I looked that shit up and I challenge your mathematics, sir. And I don't think that's how time dilation works at light speed, Gunfox.[/QUOTE] Think about it. We can't measure how much time actually passes for light. So we can only know the amount of time which passes from an OUTSIDE perspective for light to travel one light year. Which means the measurement of time calculation is for the time it takes an object moving at light speed to reach its destination from an OUTSIDE perspective. NOT from the perspective of the object itself. Seeing as one light year means it took light one year from our perspective, traveling at 299,792,458 meters per second, to go from point a to point b, the same should hold true for any object we accelerate to light speed.

[QUOTE=GunFox;25191946]I'm not sure the physics of that work out. I believe a light year is how long we PERCEIVE light to take to reach its destination. So something traveling at light speed would, to an outside observer, take twenty years to reach the planet. Time would be compressed to the people aboard the ship. Because we have no method of measuring time from the perspective of light and therefore have no way of knowing how much time passes for light photons between points. Think about it. For it to be a light year, they must be going at 299,792,458 meters per second. If they aren't traveling it, then they will not cover the distance light does in a year. So an outside of observer would observe them going a significantly slower speed. So yeah, that doesn't work out at all. 20 years for earth at light speed, a fraction of that for the crew of the vessel.[/QUOTE] Actually nope. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation[/url] [quote] For sufficiently high speeds the effect is dramatic. For example, one year of travel might correspond to ten years at home. Indeed, a constant 1 g acceleration would permit humans to travel as far as light has been able to travel since the big bang (some 13.7 billion light years) in one human lifetime. The space travellers could return to Earth billions of years in the future. [/quote] Or wait a minute. That might be because they travelled said billions of lightyears. I gotta figure this shit out.

[QUOTE=Orkel;25192110]Actually nope. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation[/url] Or wait a minute. That might be because they travelled said billions of lightyears. I gotta figure this shit out.[/QUOTE] I'm not disagreeing that less time passes aboard the vehicle, I'm just pointing out that one light year is how long it takes a light-speed vehicle from an outside perspective to move that distance. As it stands you can turn on a light one light year away and then sit there for a year and see it arrive. The way you had it laid out you'd turn on the light one light year away and then wait significantly longer than a light year. Likewise if you were to launch a vehicle at light speed one light year away, it would take one year to reach you.

I can imagine us going there in the distant future. I know all of this bollocks about can't go faster than the speed of light, but chances are we'll find a way. I wonder how many people thought we'd actually get to the moon, or actually have satellite TV, or any of the other cool things we have done.

Microorganisms, bacteria

I think we should build a couple of huge killing machines, invade their planet, destroy a bunch of shit and scare them shitless, Kinda like this [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doO-8KtoQYM[/media] and then go all "Just kidding we come in Peace"

That tripod horn sound still scares me :saddowns:

[B]It CANNOT be ![/B] [B]God said there is no alien ![/B] [B]IT'S TRUE ![/B] [B]THE BIBLE SAYS SO ![/B] [editline]12:34PM[/editline] [B]YOU ALL ATHEISTS BASTARDS GO BURN IN HELL wergwergwergwerg[/B]

We can't even get to Mars and that takes only months, even If we developed the ability to travel at light speed we wouldn't be able to get there. I think our only hope is to develop a way to bend time and space using worm holes.

Nah, just kidding. I thought presence of alien form on other planets was obvious since we discovered frozen water on mars, oh well.

[QUOTE=MacD11;25191055]diddnt i see grass on the picture of the planet?or atleast some green[/QUOTE] It an artist impression you idiot, so far they have probably only seen the planet's shadow and calculated it's size and distance from it's sun by that.

[QUOTE=Canary;25193474]We can't even get to Mars and that takes only months, even If we developed the ability to travel at light speed we wouldn't be able to get there. I think our only hope is to develop a way to bend time and space using worm holes.[/QUOTE] My automerge, you ninja.... ninja ! Anyway, using the speed of light you can actually go from a place to another in a short amount of time (see hyperspace). Yet, I let imagine how much resources it takes just for ONE TRAVEL. Also, we need the technology for this. God damn it where is this mass relay !

Wouldn't it be a mindfuck if they had Christianity on that planet aswell.

[QUOTE=Sputn!k;25191222]:unsmith:[/QUOTE] I'm not saying it isn't possible for life to live on that planet, or eve that they can't be pretty sure there's life on it. I'm just saying that they can't be certain until they actually get on the planet in some shape or form.

[QUOTE=booster;25193580]Wouldn't it be a mindfuck if they had Christianity on that planet aswell.[/QUOTE] Maybe the bacteria that apparently was on the asteroid that hit us came from there :iiam:

Even if we never reach this planet, I still think it's damn fascinating. It's like a combination of the earth (if what they say is true) and the moon; since it doesn't rotate on it's axis. I think there's many, many, earth-like planets in our own galaxy, but we would never know it because it's so immense. I mean, it would take 100,000 years going the speed of light to simply [i]cross[/i] our galaxy...and that's just the Milky Way! Think of how many galaxies are in the universe itself....it's almost inconceivable. It would be extremely arrogant to think that we are the only intelligent life in the universe, or even in our own galaxy.

Does time not 'stop' or slow down when traveling at near/light speed? Wouldn't that mean that everyone on earth would die, while the five or six people traveling in a shuttle would be trying to reach the planet? [editline]12:51PM[/editline] [QUOTE=z0nk3d;25193495]My automerge, you ninja.... ninja ! Anyway, using the speed of light you can actually go from a place to another in a short amount of time (see hyperspace). Yet, I let imagine how much resources it takes just for ONE TRAVEL. Also, we need the technology for this. God damn it where is this mass relay ![/QUOTE] I must invent a Mass Relay. [editline]12:55PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ForcedDj;25192004][B]Damn, we need to get that technology for FTL, or something that can take a few seconds or days to reach that planet.[/B] Then again, they might be lower organisms, like bacteria, or we can wait for them to come to Earth, although that might be a problem.[/QUOTE] This. [editline]12:58PM[/editline] [QUOTE=booster;25193580]Wouldn't it be a mindfuck if they had Christianity on that planet aswell.[/QUOTE] No. That's a stupid assumption. Even so, I would nuke it from orbit. [editline]01:31PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Agree;25194940]Maybe the bacteria that apparently was on the asteroid that hit us came from there :iiam:[/QUOTE] Why would it have Christianity? :downs:

Is it possible to get pictures of this planet via Hubble? Or is it simply too far away?