Trigger warning: GTA Online mod lets you r*pe other players
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I want to say this is funny but only because of the fact that Rockstar somehow made this possible, not the act itself. I figure the act would be annoying pretty quick and might frighten people. Hell, if I was playing a game and I was suddenly virtually raped I'd probably close out of the game as soon as possible.
But, seriously, how and why is this possible? I did read the article and saw that they're inappropriately reusing animations, but that doesn't answer all of the how and it definitely doesn't answer the why.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;45636877]I want to say this is funny but only because of the fact that Rockstar somehow made this possible, not the act itself. I figure the act would be annoying pretty quick and might frighten people. Hell, if I was playing a game and I was suddenly virtually raped I'd probably close out of the game as soon as possible.
But, seriously, how and why is this possible? I did read the article and saw that they're inappropriately reusing animations, but that doesn't answer all of the how and it definitely doesn't answer the why.[/QUOTE]
my guess is they edit server-side features. operation flashpoint for the xbox did have a very limited modding community and had 100 percent custom content
[QUOTE=Ownederd;45636721]yeah i really expect unfunny rape jokes from manchildren when i play multiplayer on games with restrictive servers as a common occurrence or from farming simulator 2075
there's a good reason why stuff like this is outed (unless if you have a libertarian view on games lmao)[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with you about this. It's not like the author is being whiny and complaining about how someone called her a nerd over voicechat, it's a mod where you actually rape other players. Of course they're going to be concerned and report on it, and taking any opinion other than "haha its just videogame fun, boys messing around having good times" doesn't automatically make it a dumblr feminist thing.
[editline]8th August 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;45636129]Kotaku is pure shit, its just Gawkers video game shit. Patricia honestly looks like she smells like an animal.[/QUOTE]
I think the personal insults against the author say a lot about some of you guys, too.
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;45636937]I have to agree with you about this. It's not like the author is being whiny and complaining about how someone called her a nerd over voicechat, it's a mod where you actually rape other players. Of course they're going to be concerned and report on it, and taking any opinion other than "haha its just videogame fun, boys messing around having good times" doesn't automatically make it a dumblr feminist thing.
[editline]8th August 2014[/editline]
I think it also says a lot about some of you guys, how you're personally insulting the author too.[/QUOTE]
the funny thing is how people are acting like certain characters from the crucible - just replace certain details with "those DUMB... sjws.. invading my games" and you've got a pretty accurate dramatization about it
"Chr0m3 x MoDz"
sounds like a fucking winner
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;45636937]I have to agree with you about this. It's not like the author is being whiny and complaining about how someone called her a nerd over voicechat, it's a mod where you actually rape other players.[/QUOTE]
I think this is very narrow sighted as it ignores a greater problem that is so very easily overlooked. Rape is a terrible crime and no one should ever have to be subject to it nor should they have to be reminded of it when they go to do something recreational.
But this is an exploit and it isn't endorsed by the Rockstar and it will probably split the community on whether it's appropriate or not.
But there is something which is just as problematic if not even more so, but is allowed to exist all throughout the game without anyone even batting an eyelid at it. Not to mention, it's even endorsed by Rockstar and they intentionally put it in.
The thing I am talking about is, and I shudder to say it (I will spoiler tag and trigger warning it for those of you who are of weak disposition), [sp]murder[/sp]. That's right, it's insane. It's people killing other people, one of the most heinous acts to exist and it's allowed and even encouraged! It's part of the game, not just an exploit.
When I think of all those people who have been murdered in the past, and all of those people who have had to live with those they love having been murdered and even the people who were almost murdered, I struggle to understand just how Rockstar can be so insensitive and make a game about such a serious act.
You just... shouldn't be able to go into a game and murder another player, it's a grave violation of someone's right to life and it has no place in a game like GTA.
[QUOTE=Riutet;45637035]I think this is very narrow sighted as it ignores a greater problem that is so very easily overlooked. Rape is a terrible crime and no one should ever have to be subject to it nor should they have to be reminded of it when they go to do something recreational.
But this is an exploit and it isn't endorsed by the Rockstar and it will probably split the community on whether it's appropriate or not.
But there is something which is just as problematic if not even more so, but is allowed to exist all throughout the game without anyone even batting an eyelid at it. Not to mention, it's even endorsed by Rockstar and they intentionally put it in.
The thing I am talking about is, and I shudder to say it (I will spoiler tag and trigger warning it for those of you who are of weak disposition), [sp]murder[/sp]. That's right, it's insane. It's people killing other people, one of the most heinous acts to exist and it's allowed and even encouraged! It's part of the game, not just an exploit.
When I think of all those people who have been murdered in the past, and all of those people who have had to live with those they love having been murdered and even the people who were almost murdered, I struggle to understand just how Rockstar can be so insensitive and make a game about such a serious act.
You just... shouldn't be able to go into a game and murder another player, it's a grave violation of someone's right to life and it has no place in a game like GTA.[/QUOTE]
i love how you're trying to take the piss out of others reacting to a community-made thing that was obviously made to piss people off in most tasteless way possible
[QUOTE=Riutet;45637035]I think this is very narrow sighted as it ignores a greater problem that is so very easily overlooked. Rape is a terrible crime and no one should ever have to be subject to it nor should they have to be reminded of it when they go to do something recreational.
But this is an exploit and it isn't endorsed by the Rockstar and it will probably split the community on whether it's appropriate or not.
But there is something which is just as problematic if not even more so, but is allowed to exist all throughout the game without anyone even batting an eyelid at it. Not to mention, it's even endorsed by Rockstar and they intentionally put it in.
The thing I am talking about is, and I shudder to say it (I will spoiler tag and trigger warning it for those of you who are of weak disposition), [sp]murder[/sp]. That's right, it's insane. It's people killing other people, one of the most heinous acts to exist and it's allowed and even encouraged! It's part of the game, not just an exploit.
When I think of all those people who have been murdered in the past, and all of those people who have had to live with those they love having been murdered and even the people who were almost murdered, I struggle to understand just how Rockstar can be so insensitive and make a game about such a serious act.
You just... shouldn't be able to go into a game and murder another player, it's a grave violation of someone's right to life and it has no place in a game like GTA.[/QUOTE]
Please don't try to start the whole murder-vs-rape routine, I know this is sensationalist headlines but I thought we would try to be above that.
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[QUOTE=Riutet;45637119]How dare you question the veracity of my argument by going so far as to imply that I am performing a, how you would put it, a "piss take". I will have you know that this is an issue very close to my heart as you see, I myself have been murdered, I am a murder survivor.
It's been very hard for me these past few centuries, ever since I was impaled by a halberd and took my last breath I just haven't been able to handle the topic of murder without feeling my heart skip a few beats.
For you to try and minimalise my experience by claiming that I am jesting, I am outraged. Such heartless, callous conduct. Whatever happened to good parenting?[/QUOTE]
Jesus christ. I'm seriously scared to know what kind of person you are in real life.
When will all these games stop fucking oppressing me?!
[QUOTE=Ownederd;45637082]i love how you're trying to take the piss out of others reacting to a community-made thing that was obviously made to piss people off in most tasteless way possible[/QUOTE]
How dare you question the veracity of my argument by going so far as to imply that I am performing a, how you would put it, a "piss take". I will have you know that this is an issue very close to my heart as you see, I myself have been murdered, I am a murder survivor.
It's been very hard for me these past few centuries, ever since I was impaled by a halberd and took my last breath I just haven't been able to handle the topic of murder without feeling my heart skip a few beats.
For you to try and minimalise my experience by claiming that I am jesting, I am outraged. Such heartless, callous conduct. Whatever happened to good parenting?
[QUOTE=Riutet;45637119]How dare you question the veracity of my argument by going so far as to imply that I am performing a, how you would put it, a "piss take". I will have you know that this is an issue very close to my heart as you see, I myself have been murdered, I am a murder survivor.
It's been very hard for me these past few centuries, ever since I was impaled by a halberd and took my last breath I just haven't been able to handle the topic of murder without feeling my heart skip a few beats.
For you to try and minimalise my experience by claiming that I am jesting, I am outraged. Such heartless, callous conduct. Whatever happened to good parenting?[/QUOTE]
An actual piece of proof that past-life regression/remembrance exists!
goddamn this forum has some fucked up people in it
[QUOTE=Riutet;45637119]How dare you question the veracity of my argument by going so far as to imply that I am performing a, how you would put it, a "piss take". I will have you know that this is an issue very close to my heart as you see, I myself have been murdered, I am a murder survivor.
It's been very hard for me these past few centuries, ever since I was impaled by a halberd and took my last breath I just haven't been able to handle the topic of murder without feeling my heart skip a few beats.
For you to try and minimalise my experience by claiming that I am jesting, I am outraged. Such heartless, callous conduct. Whatever happened to good parenting?[/QUOTE]
what is this joke even trying to satirize
[QUOTE=Ownederd;45637145]what is this joke even trying to satirize[/QUOTE]
Nothing.
The problem with the mod is that it's an exploit on official servers, not that it allows you to rape other players.
As an poster above said, it's pointless to go into an argument about murder vs rape, and it's pointless to argue the morality of actions done to fictional characters even if those fictional characters are under your control.
The exploit should be removed but I see no issue with it living on in private servers.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45635699]Video game journalism in a nutshell. Blow everything out of proportion so that people will read, who cares if it isn't true.[/QUOTE]
This isn't just any journalism though, this is Patricia Hernandez and she is a scummy clickbait-writer. She is among the lowest of the low not just when it comes to gaming journalism, but all journalism. She can fuck right off.
[quote]As an poster above said, it's pointless to go into an argument about murder vs rape, and it's pointless to argue the morality of actions done to fictional characters even if those fictional characters are under your control.[/quote]
I don't really care about the ridiculous mods people have as long as they don't subject others to it. For instance, Skyrim has an inane amount of sex/rape mods and I find them absolutely disgusting, but it's not like I'm ready to protest mod-sharing sites that host them. I just avoid those people.
I agree that the problem with this mod is that it's effective on official servers, however I disagree with you about your justification. I don't think it's justifiable to say, "Well, you can kill people in this game so why not rape?" Rape is much darker for the game's tone, and having an interest in raping people even virtually is also troubling. What is gained through that outside of entertainment for the weirdos? I'm not going to be doing anything about them but it's hard to say, "Yup! That's acceptable because this game has murder in it."
That would be really fucking annoying if you were in a mission or something and someone started doing that.
The into of the video was worked on more than the mod itself
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;45636129]Kotaku is pure shit, its just Gawkers video game shit. Patricia honestly looks like she smells like an animal.[/QUOTE]
Gawker is trash as a whole, it really shouldn't be considered source material considering everything in't much more than a glorified blog, which are banned
[QUOTE=Ownederd;45636186]yeah kotaku is hardly the most coherent source out there, and it doesn't even hold a candle compared to sources like jim sterling or [B]rock paper shotgun[/B][/QUOTE]
Yer like john walker doesn't talk about irrelevant shit
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45635731]I would but they're too busy being triggered by all of their self diagnosed diseases.[/QUOTE]
Can someone do some kind of contraption that gets people stuck in a loop getting triggered forever? Like, they look in front, get triggered, look back trying to escape and BAM another trigger and so on...
It's really fun to enter a thread like this and be reminded of my psychologically scarred friend whose trust was abused by her boyfriend years ago.
Good going, Facepunch.
[editline]9th August 2014[/editline]
Just to clarify, I'm not making a "triggerword" joke. I'm referring to some of the disgusting posts in this thread.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;45637570]I don't really care about the ridiculous mods people have as long as they don't subject others to it. For instance, Skyrim has an inane amount of sex/rape mods and I find them absolutely disgusting, but it's not like I'm ready to protest mod-sharing sites that host them. I just avoid those people.
I agree that the problem with this mod is that it's effective on official servers, however I disagree with you about your justification. I don't think it's justifiable to say, "Well, you can kill people in this game so why not rape?" Rape is much darker for the game's tone, and having an interest in raping people even virtually is also troubling. What is gained through that outside of entertainment for the weirdos? I'm not going to be doing anything about them but it's hard to say, "Yup! That's acceptable because this game has murder in it."[/QUOTE]
Both murder and rape are extremely awful things in real life. It's hypocritical to be able to enjoy fictional murder but then be offended by fictional rape. Murder in games can be both very dark and very lighthearted. Can rape also be very dark or very lighthearted? Looking at this mod, yes, absolutely, scarcely a hint of darkness in the "rape" in this mod, it's very slapstick and pretty amusing.
I really do struggle to see how rape is darker than murder when they're both approached with the same level of seriousness.
You say, having an interest in rape is very troubling, I would agree. I would also posit that having an interest in murder is similarly troubling. Still one is fine the other is not and I struggle to understand why. You may say as you have said before, rape is darker than murder. And it is true that rape is often darker than murder, but because it's been made that way rather than by nature being a darker act. Take a game like Monster Girl Quest, it's an extremely lighthearted game which is pretty much 95 percent rape. If you're going to put dark rape content into a lighthearted murder game, then sure it doesn't fit. But as I have already said, the rape added in this game is just foolish, it's very jokey, not dark at all. Shouldn't be in the game because it's a big exploit but if you can laugh at murder in jest, why not at rape in jest?
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Everyone on this list can be outright ignored. the only exception is Zonesylvania which is for some reason on there ..., I guess he's trying to fit in.
Like milkandcookie did.
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Everyone on this list can be outright ignored. the only exception is Zonesylvania which is for some reason on there ..., I guess he's trying to fit in.
Like milkandcookie did.[/QUOTE]
I take offense to the liberal use of 'oh boy here we go' in any thread. I don't give out dumbs like candy unless a post itself is genuinely dumb.
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Everyone on this list can be outright ignored. the only exception is Zonesylvania which is for some reason on there ..., I guess he's trying to fit in.
Like milkandcookie did.[/QUOTE]
"These guys rated a dumb and pointless post dumb and therefore their opinions should be ignored completely"
What if we were all wrong and article was about ripe
We've really forgotten the struggle of fruit?
The arguments in these kinds of threads gets so out of hand so fast.
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Everyone on this list can be outright ignored. the only exception is Zonesylvania which is for some reason on there ..., I guess he's trying to fit in.
Like milkandcookie did.[/QUOTE]
it was a dumb post and so is this
kinda a weird first post too, do you happen to be the one getting dumbed or something?
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I have lost all respect for Tmaxx if that was his alt
what an immature douche if that was his alt
[QUOTE=Riutet;45637035]You just... shouldn't be able to go into a game and murder another player, it's a grave violation of someone's right to life and it has no place in a game like GTA.[/QUOTE]
not only are you putting objective worth on human suffering, you're mocking rape victims
holy shit dude you're on a completely different level
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;45639220]not only are you putting objective worth on human suffering, you're mocking rape victims
holy shit dude you're on a completely different level[/QUOTE]
that plus the entire point of GTA5 is killing people not raping people. It's VERY specifically the objective.
murder is objectively meaningless in GTA as you'll just respawn and done
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