If Trump Wins - Martin Shkreli will release unheard Wu Tang, Beatles, and Nirvana songs for FREE
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[QUOTE=DOG-GY;51273412]A fairly convincing argument to vote Trump, Shkreli. Raise the stakes to offing yourself and we have a deal.[/QUOTE]
why would you want someone who saves lives to kill themselves?
love this guy
How about if Hilary wins, Martin Shkreli has to shoot his own dick off.
Comon America you can take a bullet for the rest of the world. Do whats right
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;51276170]You may know more about that ordeal than I and if I'm wrong, oops. If I'm doubling down on being wrong in this post, double oops. I don't use reddit tho, just heard about it in the news lol
What [I]I[/I] had read (and triple checked on further) before posting my cheeky one-liner was not some billing code change that happens because of simply the "chart being updated". I honestly don't totally understand what you mean here either and would appreciate elaboration, being fortunate enough never to get a hospital bill other than over a small burn that's not something I have intimate knowledge of.
Anyways. I had read from multiple sources that [I]the hospital themselves[/I] said the charge was because a csec takes a big toll on the body and thus one nurse was busy with the mother. When the father wanted to hold the baby they need to pull another nurse in to oversee. Seems to elaborate on but not fundamentally change the original claim.
I wanted a solid example of where our healthcare system has been so derailed and fucked up reaching for justifiations to tack on another charge. I feel that pulling in a nurse for a few minutes to watch over you hold your child because your wife required a c-section costs $40 qualifies.
Maybe there's a really good and valid reason that I'm not aware of or can find for why an hourly employee assisting someone for a bit is justifiable grounds for charging that individual as if the nurse had a small consulting gig on the side. From what I've been able to absorb though it's still a wonderful example of the charging-for-sauce-packets-at-the-drive-thru ideology that our healthcare's grown to represent for most people; except with potentially life or death consequences. I would have liked to learn more about reasons why this is billable but couldn't find anything else.
Someone who knows more about this, please share your knowledge. Like where is the line drawn? Every time two nurses need to be in the same room are people gonna get their wallets reamed?
[editline]28th October 2016[/editline]
[del]Is this the answer?[/del]
[B]TLDR, Edit: Reading even more the nurse suggested skin to skin contact to the couple. Since they're in the OR post csec they need another nurse in the room to offer the expertise and care to make sure everythings gravy. Somehow after the fact though they can just hit the patient with a bill for an idea they gave them without informing them of its cost. These types of surprise hospital billings aren't uncommon at all and have far reaching implications. It's a literal slippery slope in action.[/B][/QUOTE]
also the billing for the 40 dollars of skin-skin was the same price per minute as the csec
all that happened was changed the billing code, and effectively was just part of the sec price
as far as i can tell, if they hadn't have asked for skin to skin, they would have been billed for 80 minutes of csec, not 79 and 1 of skin contact
So basically Trump can't do worse than Hillary now
I mean either way we're going to fuck this country, might as well have some sick tunes.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;51276848]also the billing for the 40 dollars of skin-skin was the same price per minute as the csec
all that happened was changed the billing code, and effectively was just part of the sec price
as far as i can tell, if they hadn't have asked for skin to skin, they would have been billed for 80 minutes of csec, not 79 and 1 of skin contact[/QUOTE]
See until this post I wouldn't have had the faintest clue from looking at that bill that the description is really just codes in place of the empty cpt code field or what the quantity represented (time). Ty for elaborating cause knowing those two things paints an entirely different, totally fine picture.
the only beatles stuff i can think of that's potentially out in the wild, but not bootlegged or officially released, is [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_of_Light"]carnival of light,[/URL] but if that's what he would have, it'd be the copy used at the event it was played at and not any kind of master tape, which mccartney should still have.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;51274453]He won't release it if Trump wins and I'm convinced that he won't destroy it if he loses
In either case, fuck this guy, let him destroy it lmao. I hope he's dumb enough to back it up on a computer that gets compromised and it ends up getting leaked
[editline]28th October 2016[/editline]
Or itd be funny if WuTang heard he destroyed it and made another copy and auctioned it again just as a massive "fuck you" :v:[/QUOTE]
Why would Wu Tang give him a fuck you? They're the ones who decided to make an album limited to a single copy and sell it to one dude.
I don't get why people wanna hear this unreleased Wu-Tang stuff so bad, almost all the songs they HAVE released since 1997 has been complete crap
If he did have Beatles and Nirvana stuff that would be a different story as both bands had the sense to break up when things started going downhill
[QUOTE=Marbalo;51278166]It has less to do with the quality of the actual music, and more to do with the fact that all of these bands and rap artists are legendary and their influence tremendous, any previously unheard album would be invaluable to fans.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but isn't all of the stuff Shkreli has relatively new? Wu-Tang haven't really made anything influential since Wu-Tang Forever
[QUOTE=RichyZ;51274770]find a person who needed daraprim that wasnt able to afford it because of shkreli
you wont, because his company made sure to make insurers make the patient pay the same price from before as well as stock hospitals with more to use on the spot for much cheaper than the insurance price
but hey, everyone wants a bad guy
shkreli is just a silly internet troll these days[/QUOTE]
It's still not exactly a great thing to be doing since that kind of practice will increase insurance costs. He's still trying to game the system and it's still harmful.
[QUOTE=elowin;51279257]It's still not exactly a great thing to be doing since that kind of practice will increase insurance costs. He's still trying to game the system and it's still harmful.[/QUOTE]
He said on a livestream that he's abusive in his business practices and loopholes in legislation so that it doesn't harm his employees - since every other business is looking to take advantage of the same loopholes, he'd only be hurting his employees by taking a notional moral highground and costing them money. He also said that he's [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srr7BGrMgRs#t=1h29m41s]offered to policy makers his advice on how to close the loopholes[/url] (he speaks for about a minute or so on it), since he thinks he's one of the bigger abusers of them, but believes the politicians won't consult him because it makes a good talking point to get the public riled up.
[QUOTE=Swiket;51273582]people barely paid attention to the last wu-tang album[/QUOTE]
There might be some unheard ODB in this album tho
[editline]29th October 2016[/editline]
Oh shit, my bad. It was recorded from 2008-15. I have no idea if it could be good or not
[QUOTE=CMB Unit 01;51279549]He said on a livestream that he's abusive in his business practices and loopholes in legislation so that it doesn't harm his employees - since every other business is looking to take advantage of the same loopholes, he'd only be hurting his employees by taking a notional moral highground and costing them money. He also said that he's [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srr7BGrMgRs#t=1h29m41s]offered to policy makers his advice on how to close the loopholes[/url] (he speaks for about a minute or so on it), since he thinks he's one of the bigger abusers of them, but believes the politicians won't consult him because it makes a good talking point to get the public riled up.[/QUOTE]
hahaha
Oh shit he better win now :vs:
I have been patrolling some rapsites, tons of people are talking about voting Trump on election day now, just to have Wu Tang.
Mother of god, this man may of just single handedly given Trump the vote of everyone who likes Wu Tang.
[QUOTE=ccg;51274405]He brought them, he can do whatever he wishes.[/QUOTE]
That's not how copyright works?
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51281773]I have been patrolling some rapsites, tons of people are talking about voting Trump on election day now, just to have Wu Tang.
Mother of god, this man may of just single handedly given Trump the vote of everyone who likes Wu Tang.[/QUOTE]
And then Skhreli doesn't release them and thanks them for being stupid enough to give him a tax cut
[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;51281780]That's not how copyright works?[/QUOTE]
Except it is?
He bought the rights to the songs, as well as the only existing copies. (or, at least in the case of Wu Tang)
Whether or not the album is sold, streamed, given away, gifted to a museum, or used in lieu of toilet paper is entirely up to Shkreli.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51281773]I have been patrolling some rapsites, tons of people are talking about voting Trump on election day now, just to have Wu Tang.
Mother of god, this man may of just single handedly given Trump the vote of everyone who likes Wu Tang.[/QUOTE]
not surprised at all but disappointed all the same
[editline]30th October 2016[/editline]
also as i said on page 1 nobody discusses it but the album is a fake and why would anyone ever give a shit about that
[QUOTE=Hanso;51273595]Are a lot of people willing to screw themselves over to hear some songs? Whoever owns the rights to the music for these bands should release the tracks just to nullify this guy's bullshit.[/QUOTE]
It [B]is[/B] written into the exclusivity contract for the Wu-Tang record that [URL="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVzDWkKUYAATxy-.jpg"]the Wu-Tang Clan can legally make a single attempt at a daring heist to steal the record back[/URL]. If they succeed it's no longer his.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51281964]It [B]is[/B] written into the exclusivity contract for the Wu-Tang record that [URL="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVzDWkKUYAATxy-.jpg"]the Wu-Tang Clan can legally make a single attempt at a daring heist to steal the record back[/URL]. If they succeed it's no longer his.[/QUOTE]
Bill Murray is our only hope.
why the hell is bill murray included in that?
[QUOTE=Monkah;51281785]Except it is?
He bought the rights to the songs, as well as the only existing copies. (or, at least in the case of Wu Tang)
Whether or not the album is sold, streamed, given away, gifted to a museum, or used in lieu of toilet paper is entirely up to Shkreli.[/QUOTE]
My mistake, I clearly didn't read up enough on this. I didn't realize he owned the rights as well. When I first heard about it I was under the impression that he just bought the only copy.
He certainly doesn't own the rights to The Beatles songs though
I really don't like that arrogant, smug cunt.
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;51282909]why the hell is bill murray included in that?[/QUOTE]
why not?
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51281964]It [B]is[/B] written into the exclusivity contract for the Wu-Tang record that [URL="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVzDWkKUYAATxy-.jpg"]the Wu-Tang Clan can legally make a single attempt at a daring heist to steal the record back[/URL]. If they succeed it's no longer his.[/QUOTE]
It's also written that the album can't be sold until 2103. However it can be released for free
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51281784]And then Skhreli doesn't release them and thanks them for being stupid enough to give him a tax cut[/QUOTE]
Skhreli doesn't even have a job anymore does he? He's just sitting on all the money he made so the tax cuts or tax raises wouldn't matter much to him would it?
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51284831]Skhreli doesn't even have a job anymore does he? He's just sitting on all the money he made so the tax cuts or tax raises wouldn't matter much to him would it?[/QUOTE]
Rich people don't just sit on money, they invest it and get money back via capital gains
e.g. he probably still has a lot of shares in turing pharmaceuticals
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