Final IPv4 addresses to be issued within months, NRO warns - Polidicks

[QUOTE=mercurius;25507638]Ever heard of tunneling? Do you even get you can tunnel the old protocol through an IPv6 connection? [editline]19th October 2010[/editline] Learn: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6#Tunneling[/url][/QUOTE] Tunneling is slow most of THE time. I prefer TOR. (not torrent) But maybe local tunneling is fast. So you make a simulated ipv4 network on your pc that tunnels to a ipv6 network that's hidden to other programs. Or just 1 program. Windows firewall should do the trick to restrict the applications to connect to the ipv6 network and only allow them to connect to the simulated ipv4 network. Still I you proxy(tunnel/TOR) I prefer a TOR. [editline]19th October 2010[/editline] TOR is tunneling with multiple networks at the some time by splitting packages over all the networks. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network[/url])

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;25507739]Tunneling is slow most of THE time.[/QUOTE] Currently that may be the case, but it'll eventually get to the point where the tunneling is done at the PoP (point of presence), meaning it won't have any impact on speed.

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;25507739]Tunneling is slow most of THE time.[/QUOTE] How is tunneling slow? I get the same latency as on normal servers when joining a game inside the VPN network of my friends.

This is like the next Y2K but actually a real problem...

[QUOTE=mercurius;25507638]Ever heard of tunneling? Do you even get you can tunnel the old protocol through an IPv6 connection? [editline]19th October 2010[/editline] Learn: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6#Tunneling[/url][/QUOTE] Windows has got this built-in since forver, you can check by going to the command prompt > ipconfig and look for Teredo Tunneling pseudo-interface. It should have a IPv6 IP designated to it.

[QUOTE=mercurius;25507844]How is tunneling slow? I get the same latency as on normal servers when joining a game inside the VPN network of my friends.[/QUOTE] It's like a traffic jam. When to may people are trying to use the same tunnel it's bandwidth will just be used in 2 seconds making it impossible to send packages at a dect rate. Also the tunnel host has to have a rediculess upload and download speed if he wants to make it work properly. So in simple terms: its like this. If to may people want to drive trough a tunnel there will be a traffic jam.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;25507405] Because most current games are programmed to operate on IPv4...[/QUOTE] I meant why ipv4 wouldn't work?

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;25507968]It's like a traffic jam. When to may people are trying to use the same tunnel it's bandwidth will just be used in 2 seconds making it impossible to send packages at a dect rate. Also the tunnel host has to have a rediculess upload and download speed if he wants to make it work properly. So in simple terms: its like this. If to may people want to drive trough a tunnel there will be a traffic jam.[/QUOTE] Depends really on the tunneling software you are using, I don't have these kind of problems.

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;25507968]It's like a traffic jam. When to may people are trying to use the same tunnel it's bandwidth will just be used in 2 seconds making it impossible to send packages at a dect rate. Also the tunnel host has to have a rediculess upload and download speed if he wants to make it work properly. [/QUOTE] They will place more servers to do the tunneling. It's no different to how the internet operates now. You're just getting confused because currently there are limited tunneling services. They could setup the first point your house connects to (i.e. the PoP) to do the tunneling. [QUOTE=wndash;25507976]I meant why ipv4 wouldn't work?[/QUOTE] Because your LAN connection would most likely be operating under IPv6, so as to avoid tunneling over the Internet.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;25508094]They will place more servers to do the tunneling. It's no different to how the internet operates now. You're just getting confused because currently there are limited tunneling services. They could setup the first point your house connects to (i.e. the PoP) to do the tunneling. Because your LAN connection would most likely be operating under IPv6, so as to avoid tunneling over the Internet.[/QUOTE] I guess NAT between a v4 and v6 network is impossible? Damn.

[quote=ipconfig]IPv6 Address: 2001:0:4137:9e76:1872:3b71:308f:886f[/quote] Woop woop

A lot of you seem to underestimate your ISP. Your ISP likely already has the equipment for it, the updates for it. They're mostly just waiting for the switch to come. And when it does their network engineers probably already have a router configuration ready for IPv6.

The time between IPv4 and IPv6 will be the worst time of my life. NAT at home, NAT probably on the local exchange, NAT on ISP-level, NAT on country-level. Just port forwarding at my home is a big enough pain in the ass, imagine trying to do anything related to hosting when you're behind 4 NATs. Good thing I got myself a VPS, servers probably won't be behind NATs for some time.

It's already too late to stop it, there will be a big-ass crisis in May/June when it runs out, all over the news and shit. FORTUNATELY it's not too late to look fucking badass by saying to normal people "hey guys, I bet on the news in May or June there will be a crisis about the internet" then they think you're magician. A fucking [i]magician[/i].

[QUOTE=darkrei9n;25512239]A lot of you seem to underestimate your ISP. Your ISP likely already has the equipment for it, the updates for it. They're mostly just waiting for the switch to come. And when it does their network engineers probably already have a router configuration ready for IPv6.[/QUOTE] Well i called my mobile Internet provider (tmobile Netherlands). And I asked them when ipv6 will be supported. The dumb girl at the other side freaked out and connected me through to "technical" support they didn't know what ipv6 was! And connected me through to their supervisor. I asked him and he asked me to wait for 10 minutes. I knew that he was searching what ipv6 wa on the Internet. 10 minutes later he told me not to worry and that THE whole network is already compatible. Even though it isn't! Damn tmobile! I tried to connect to a ipv6 website and guess what. It didn't work! [editline]19th October 2010[/editline] Rant! [editline]19th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Latency;25512138]Woop woop[/QUOTE] I can't wait for a 1024 bit hexadecimal Mac adress.

What happened to IPv1,2,3 and 5?

[QUOTE=wolfalt;25505894]My ISP isn't ready, my router isn't ready, they havn't said anything about upgrading their network or giving me a new router. Anybody else in this position?[/QUOTE] You should have an IPv6 address already, go into cmd and type "ipconfig"

[QUOTE=CoolCorky;25515799]You should have an IPv6 address already, go into cmd and type "ipconfig"[/QUOTE] But it's an autoassigned unusable IP.

This thread prompted me to call my ISP (Sasktel), the guy on the other end seemed to know what he was talking about and said that although they don't currently support IPv6 they will before it's necessary.

[QUOTE=CoolCorky;25515799]You should have an IPv6 address already, go into cmd and type "ipconfig"[/QUOTE] [img]http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1820/ipconf.png[/img] :saddowns:

IPv6 is the end of the internet and pre-2011 game era

[QUOTE=CoolCorky;25515799]You should have an IPv6 address already, go into cmd and type "ipconfig"[/QUOTE] That's only on your local network. Your computer can't see your public IP Address as it's gave by the router.

Ipconfig gives me my IPv6 tunnel address too, awesome.

[QUOTE=johan svensk;25506219]I wonder which site will be first with IPv6.[/QUOTE] Google.

I got my IPv6 address already, thankfully. I'm in the clear, I suppose? :v: Still, I don't understand the exact situation we are in.

What will happen to all programs that have a field only for ipv4?

[QUOTE=edja007;25526749]What will happen to all programs that have a field only for ipv4?[/QUOTE] They broken brooooo

[QUOTE=edja007;25526749]What will happen to all programs that have a field only for ipv4?[/QUOTE] you will have to tunnel the stuff. make it think its connecting to a IPv4 even though its connecting to IPv6 [editline]20th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Fuhrer;25515505]What happened to IPv1,2,3 and 5?[/QUOTE] This is what happend to IPv5: IPng, Internet Protocol next generation, was conceived in 1994 with a goal for implementations to start flooding out by 1996 (yeah, like that ever happened). IPv6 was supposed to be the “god-send” over the well-used IPv4: it increased the number of bytes used in addressing from 4 bytes to 16 bytes, it introduced anycast routing, it removed the checksum from the IP layer, and lots of other improvements. One of the fields kept, of course, was the version field — these 8 bits identify this IP header as being of version “4″ when there is a 4 in there, and presumably they would use a “5″ to identify this next gen version. Unfortunately, that “5″ was already given to something else. In the late 1970’s, a protocol named ST — The Internet Stream Protocol — was created for the experimental transmission of voice, video, and distributed simulation. Two decades later, this protocol was revised to become ST2 and started to get implemented into commercial projects by groups like IBM, NeXT, Apple, and Sun. Wow did it differ a lot. ST and ST+ offered connections, instead of its connection-less IPv4 counterpart. It also guaranteed QoS. ST and ST+, were already given that magical “5″. And now as the Internet clock ticks, our PCs don’t use IPv5. So we’re moving onto 6.

Shits gonna go down once all the ipv4 ip's are used up.

[QUOTE=edja007;25526749]What will happen to all programs that have a field only for ipv4?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=DogGunn;25526997]They broken brooooo[/QUOTE] Tunneling IPv4 over IPv6 i presume.