• Cat Found Buried Alive in Concrete (up to its neck) - Arizona
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I'm probably stupid for asking this, but seeing how the cat was buried with its chest upward it was allowed to breath freely, but if it hadn't wouldn't it had suffocated seeing how the chest raises up and down when you breath and the concrete would've made that impossible?
This is really sad, I don't understand why people do it. It reminds me of a time I found the remains of a cat which had been set on fire, pretty upsetting.
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;36703333]I'm probably stupid for asking this, but seeing how the cat was buried with its chest upward it was allowed to breath freely, but if it hadn't wouldn't it had suffocated seeing how the chest raises up and down when you breath and the concrete would've made that impossible?[/QUOTE] Ya, The cat would have died if it had. Sad to see.
[Quote]He believes that the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is behind the cat being buried.[/quote] That's a pretty serious allegation. Does he have any concrete evidence of this?
[QUOTE=FuzzyPoop;36700711]I doubt your grandmother buried the kittens alive in concrete or choked them in a plastic bag, this is quite different.[/QUOTE] Ammo was extremely expensive where she lived, and water was quite scarce (South texas, far from the ocean), so she had to either sic the dog on them or use a baseball bat. Again, it sounds absolutely horrifying, but that's how you got by back then, there wasn't animal control.
One day I fear that I'll flip out when I see something like this is person and take matters in to my hands.
[QUOTE=Clementine;36702539]Well that's kinda embarrassing, you actually don't know what to say to prove I'm wrong, do you?[/QUOTE] let's start with pointing out what's different between torturous murder of a cat versus a human. With a cat: -There is no premeditation - a cat doesn't fuck you out of $10000 and turn you murderous. -When a cat is tortured, e.g. dropped into concrete, it doesn't fucking know what it did, and I guarantee it didn't do anything to deserve torture -Most people have had a cat for a pet in their life or at least have made a connection with one - it it easier to sympathize with all cats based on your relationship with one than it is to sympathize with people because you know one. It just boils down to the fact that there's no reason to torture a household pet. Maybe your wife says something that pisses you off and you beat her into unconsciousness, but at least in that situation she aggravated you. Pets never deserve torture.
i'm just saying what i said on like the first page it takes a different kind of sicko to torture a cat than it does to torture a person.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36710580]let's start with pointing out what's different between torturous murder of a cat versus a human. With a cat: -There is no premeditation - a cat doesn't fuck you out of $10000 and turn you murderous. -When a cat is tortured, e.g. dropped into concrete, it doesn't fucking know what it did, and I guarantee it didn't do anything to deserve torture -Most people have had a cat for a pet in their life or at least have made a connection with one - it it easier to sympathize with all cats based on your relationship with one than it is to sympathize with people because you know one. It just boils down to the fact that there's no reason to torture a household pet. Maybe your wife says something that pisses you off and you beat her into unconsciousness, but at least in that situation she aggravated you. Pets never deserve torture.[/QUOTE] Let me tell you why you're wrong okay this is gonna be easy -And that is an excuse to kill someone/torture someone...how? -Yeah I don't really think a person being murdered/tortured really understands why its happening either, in that moment of desperation they're scared for their life and begging for either the pain, or them to be saved. They don't know why they're dying, and don't want it, just as much if not even more deeply than a cat -Everyone has known a person their whole life, and they have made connections with them, connections that have the ability to be MUCH stronger than that a cat can offer (unless you're an aspie and avoid human contact and don't have any friends and don't have anyone to love and are lonely(seem's likely considering [B]you're trying to make killing a person seem less bad than killing a cat[/B])) Wow holy shit this last sentence is a clusterfuck of illogicality and sociopathy, a person can DESERVE to be murdered/tortured? Okay, wow, jesus fuck. At least when you kill/torture a fucking animal they don't feel as terrible and scared as a fucking person. Do you know what it feels like to almost die? Its fucking awful, and do you know how a fucking cat feels? I can damn near guarantee you it isn't the same shit, especially when it can scar a human for LIFE. [editline]10th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Jack Trades;36703019]Err...it's been scientifically proven that cats and dogs do, in fact, have dreams and even complex feelings like guilt and jealousy.[/QUOTE] Zings? This pathetic little post got zings? All he said was something that literally means nothing, they can feel guilt, over what? Eating someone's food? Jealousy, over what, someone getting more food than them? Holy FUCK, I see now that cats are equal to humanity and hurting a cat is much worse than hurting a person, you're right. [editline]10th July 2012[/editline] I'm mad, basically, and I know you'll just rate me dumbs without a logical reason as to why human < cat, but I know you're wrong, and you cannot argue that you're right without looking like a gigantic sociopathic loser who has no friends but his cat, so he's trying to make his only friend seem actually real.
[QUOTE]At least when you kill/torture a fucking animal they don't feel as terrible and scared as a fucking person. Do you know what it feels like to almost die? blah blah blah [B] especially when it can scar a human for LIFE.[/B] [/QUOTE] yeah I have seen some fucked up cats. cats that had to chew their own leg off, had to get their eyes removed because of abusive owners. they're pretty fucking different than a regular cat. it's pretty obvious whatever happened to the cat scars them you have no idea what you're talking about and your entire argument consists of misconstruing what I'm saying. I have literally never been this infuriated by stupidity until I read your post. Please uninstall windows from your computer. [editline]10th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE]I'm mad, basically, and I know you'll just rate me dumbs without a logical reason as to why human < cat, but I know you're wrong, and you cannot argue that you're right without looking like a gigantic sociopathic loser who has no friends but his cat, so he's trying to make his only friend seem actually real.[/QUOTE] Oh fuck off. [editline]10th July 2012[/editline] Did it ever occur to you that people rate you dumb because you're an ass in how you say things and not because of what you're saying
I wish i had a cat to go hug after reading this story. All i have are pet birds that are antisocial and squawk when you get near them.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36711028]yeah I have seen some fucked up cats. cats that had to chew their own leg off, had to get their eyes removed because of abusive owners. they're pretty fucking different than a regular cat. it's pretty obvious whatever happened to the cat scars them you have no idea what you're talking about and your entire argument consists of misconstruing what I'm saying. I have literally never been this infuriated by stupidity until I read your post. Please uninstall windows from your computer. [editline]10th July 2012[/editline] Oh fuck off. [editline]10th July 2012[/editline] Did it ever occur to you that people rate you dumb because you're an ass in how you say things and not because of what you're saying[/QUOTE] Oh yeah and the people who have to cut off their arms legs, and even kill themselves because of their pain mean WHAT to you? Nothing right because that wouldn't be convenient for your childish point, cats feel emotions nothing like us, they don't kill themselves, they don't go mentally insane from depression, sadness, pain, being scared, we are above them, and I challenge you to prove me wrong and somehow prove that cats are equal to us. Oh fuck off? Then tell me why you think its logical to uphold this belief that cats are equal to humans, that they somehow feel emotions on any comparable par to us? Why else would you try to make cats seem more sympathetic than humanity? Because you don't know what it is to love, and you assume all humanity is terrible because that's all you've ever gotten out of people, but let me tell you, that isn't true. Yes it is possible, but as you, I have never been more angered than this type of argument, the argument that you should feel more sad about a fucking animal's passing than a human's. [editline]10th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Protocol7;36710923]i'm just saying what i said on like the first page it takes a different kind of sicko to torture a cat than it does to torture a person.[/QUOTE] Yes, a sicko of a lesser degree, but a sick nonetheless,[B] to think that [/B][B]if someone tortures a [I]person they aren't as bad as if they tortured a cat is fucking [U]INSANE.[/U][/I][/B]
[QUOTE=Clementine;36711125][snipple][/QUOTE] um did you ever stop to think just for one short little moment in time that humans are also classified as animals? in theory, you don't get in trouble for killing an animal. think about that for a little bit.
[QUOTE=LilRobot;36711348]um did you ever stop to think just for one short little moment in time that humans are also classified as animals? in theory, you don't get in trouble for killing an animal. think about that for a little bit.[/QUOTE] "but lilrobot! we're so much more different than 'animals.' they don't feel like we do" seriously clementine. there are so many factors that make torturing a pet worse than torturing a human, albeit in different ways. stop and think for awhile.
Fucking made me sick to see that. Will the cat pull through do you think?
[QUOTE=Liveleak]He has seen several other dead cats in the area. [/QUOTE] What the fuck, If there was why not make sure no one fools around and do this shit. Plus if the cat did fall down in that pipe he couldve possibly gotten out but someone must have blocked the top so they cat cant get out. I hope they find this asshole, meanest fucking thing. This is pure disgusting and its not funny either, I couldn't watch this shit because its just cruel. RIP Cat.
All my my friendlies take them.
[QUOTE=faze;36711537]Fucking made me sick to see that. Will the cat pull through do you think?[/QUOTE] It died
[QUOTE=Dizzeh;36711649]What the fuck, If there was why not make sure no one fools around and do this shit. Plus if the cat did fall down in that pipe he couldve possibly gotten out but someone must have blocked the top so they cat cant get out. I hope they find this asshole, meanest fucking thing. This is pure disgusting and its not funny either, I couldn't watch this shit because its just cruel. RIP Cat.[/QUOTE] People like this end up as serial killers... Statistics prove it. Best to give them 25 to life for shit like this, so they can't kill people.
[QUOTE=LilRobot;36711348]um did you ever stop to think just for one short little moment in time that humans are also classified as animals? in theory, you don't get in trouble for killing an animal. think about that for a little bit.[/QUOTE] Of course, does that mean that we are just as important, at least from our perspective? Hell no, and I fear for the sanity of a man who thinks a common animal, who's intelligence couldn't even come close to your's or mine, is of equal importance. We may be animals, but how many animals do you see with flying machines? [editline]10th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Protocol7;36711403]"but lilrobot! we're so much more different than 'animals.' they don't feel like we do" seriously clementine. there are so many factors that make [B]torturing a pet worse than torturing a human[/B], albeit in different ways. stop and think for awhile.[/QUOTE] Someone give this kid a title, holy fuck
[QUOTE=Clementine;36712001]Of course, does that mean that we are just as important, at least from our perspective? Hell no, and I fear for the sanity of a man who thinks a common animal, who's intelligence couldn't even come close to your's or mine, is of equal importance. We may be animals, but how many animals do you see with flying machines? [editline]10th July 2012[/editline] Someone give this kid a title, holy fuck[/QUOTE] [B][I][U]STOP POSTING[/U][/I][/B]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36711663]It died[/QUOTE] Fuck you. You ruined my day. Why'd he/she die?
[QUOTE=Clementine;36712001]We may be animals, but how many animals do you see with flying machines? [/QUOTE] [img]http://d2k5.com/SA/emot-eng99.gif[/img] birds. there. does that answer your question? [QUOTE=faze;36712187]Fuck you. You ruined my day. Why'd he/she die?[/QUOTE] the condition it was in after release.
Damnit now I'm sad :(
[QUOTE=LilRobot;36712222] the condition it was in after release.[/QUOTE] Do elaborate.
also, any asshole using "they don't feel emotion" as an argument (i'll be using cats for this example) cats have stuck by acquaintances that have passed away out of sadness. humans do the same when people pass away, they stick by their grave. cats can obviously feel sadness and happiness, also anger. it's just not noticed often because the domesticated ones we have aren't exactly around other cats often.
[QUOTE=LilRobot;36712309]also, any asshole using "they don't feel emotion" as an argument (i'll be using cats for this example) cats have stuck by acquaintances that have passed away out of sadness. humans do the same when people pass away, they stick by their grave. cats can obviously feel sadness and happiness, also anger. it's just not noticed often because the domesticated ones we have aren't exactly around other cats often.[/QUOTE] But how comparable are those emotions? How deep are they? Do they feel bad because of a deep psychological reason, or just because they won't get anymore food from them? Those are the questions of my life. I give up on this argument, you guys are essentially agreeing with this quote "torturing a pet worse than torturing a human" and that is...too much stupidity for me for one day.
[QUOTE=Clementine;36712349]But how comparable are those emotions? How deep are they? Do they feel bad because of a deep psychological reason, or just because they won't get anymore food from them? Those are the questions of my life. I give up on this argument, you guys are essentially agreeing with this quote "torturing a pet worse than torturing a human" and that is...too much stupidity for me for one day.[/QUOTE] Fucking finally. Let's celebrate with a cake! [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Pound_layer_cake.jpg/250px-Pound_layer_cake.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=faze;36712187]Fuck you. You ruined my day. Why'd he/she die?[/QUOTE] If I had to guess, I'd say it died because it had been buried in concrete.
[QUOTE=faze;36712278]Do elaborate.[/QUOTE] at the end of the video, there was still a bunch of concrete on it. my best bet is some of it got inside of the actual cat itself..
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