British actor Idris Elba cannot star as James Bond because he is black, says Rush Limbaugh - Polidicks

Adam Sandler as new Bond.

but doesn't james bond do his spy shit in the 40s? how the fuck is he driving around a jag xf in skyfall? solve that one, fanboys

Idris Elba would be pretty awesome. I dunno why, but I enjoy every role I've seen him in.

[QUOTE=codenamecueball;46784791]but doesn't james bond do his spy shit in the 40s? how the fuck is he driving around a jag xf in skyfall? solve that one, fanboys[/QUOTE] Simple, James Bond movies don't have a consistent timeline. Nobody ever said they did. And trying to assign a one to the series is silly. Also it's the 60s not the 40s.

[QUOTE=Wii60;46784244]was confirmed fake. [URL="http://badassdigest.com/2012/11/11/how-skyfall-clears-up-bonds-biggest-continuity-question/"]James bond is one person[/URL] which is why making james bond a black character makes no sense unless you just wanna do a reboot/spin off of some kind. (I really want Idris Elba to be james bond tho despite the giant story problem)[/QUOTE] Yeah, I don't really care for the race of an actor, although I guess you could argue that it's inconsistent with the source material, since in the novels bond has always been the same. Citing wikipedia: [QUOTE]In the novels (notably From Russia, with Love), Bond's physical description has generally been consistent: slim build; a three-inch long, thin vertical scar on his right cheek; blue-grey eyes; a "cruel" mouth; short, black hair, a comma of which falls on his forehead. Physically he is described as 183 centimetres (6 feet) in height and 76 kilograms (167 lb) in weight.[/QUOTE] Then again, this isn't the novels. I don't really know what to think of it.

A N****r?! Cuddling about with my Bond-women? Not in my fucking theater! [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Ironic shitposting is still shitposting. Last chance ban." - Swebonny))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=UberMensch;46784205]I get where he's coming from based on the "white and Scottish", but I don't see why things can be changed around a little.[/QUOTE] Next James bond to be cast by the demoman.

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;46784901]A N****r?! Cuddling about with my Bond-women? Not in my fucking theater![/QUOTE] Don't.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;46784279]The issue I have with Idris Elba, or any black man really, taking the role of James Bond is an explanation I saw in the previous thread we had about this. Specifically, James Bond is meant to embody the Old World upper-class landed gentleman, the kind of guy you'd expect (were it a hundred years prior) to be found sitting in a rumpus room smoking a pipe as he discusses his time in the Zulu Wars with a handful of equally wealthy friends from the neighboring estates. He's a classic aristocrat forced to adapt to modern times. It's a uniquely British role, which is why a black James Bond would make about as much sense as an American James Bond.[/QUOTE] i don't like the implication that a black actor can't play an aristocratic upper class person. these are things worth changing tbh

[QUOTE=proch;46784860]Yeah, I don't really care for the race of an actor, although I guess you could argue that it's inconsistent with the source material, since in the novels bond has always been the same. Citing wikipedia: Then again, this isn't the novels. I don't really know what to think of it.[/QUOTE] [quote]In the novels (notably From Russia, with Love), Bond's physical description has generally been consistent: slim build; a three-inch long, thin vertical scar on his right cheek; blue-grey eyes; a "cruel" mouth; short, black hair, a comma of which falls on his forehead. Physically he is described as 183 centimetres (6 feet) in height and 76 kilograms (167 lb) in weight.[/quote] So presumably, every Bond actor who's not fit all of those characteristics [I]also[/I] shouldn't have been cast because that's not how it's supposed to be?

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;46784901]A N****r?! Cuddling about with my Bond-women? Not in my fucking theater![/QUOTE] You might consider this satire or whatever but you're literally replicating things actual human beings would say about this. That's not satire. It's hardly even a parody. Consider your approach more carefully.

really if the archetypal character of the posh upper class spy would exclude perfectly talented actors on the basis of race you have to ask yourself if it's not an archetype worth changing

God damn who really cares about whether it fits with the books or not? Hardly any of the Bond films follow the books closely at all, the film franchise is essentially completely distinct by now. The only thing worth considering when casting the role should be whether they can act the part, and Idris Elba certainly can. I will never understand why people get so upset about stuff like this, especially when the reverse (Exodus, 21 etc) happens all the time and hardly anyone notices or cares.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46784944]So presumably, every Bond actor who's not fit all of those characteristics [I]also[/I] shouldn't have been cast because that's not how it's supposed to be?[/QUOTE] Yeah, more or less. Although I suppose it's a contextual matter. Nobody is going to care if he's a few cm taller or shorter or if his hair is slightly lighter or darker. It's more of a general guideline, seeing how it's the movie and not the novel, and that sometimes requires a compromise to make possible.

Gonna be honest here, Idris is a cool dude. I still dont think he'd fit to be James Bond.

Race isn't the defining character trait of James Bond.

they should cast michael cera

[QUOTE=Cone;46784973]really if the archetypal character of the posh upper class spy would exclude perfectly talented actors on the basis of race you have to ask yourself if it's not an archetype worth changing[/QUOTE] It's kind of a thing of the times, the British "posh upper class spy" of the times that bond takes place in would not include a black guy. There is also the fact that if Bond is the same guy throughout, you got to at least try to get your various replacement actors to fit the role of the posh, Scottish, white character. Forcing an entire race change on a character so established is tryhard and honestly annoying. However if they canonize the codename thing, then yeah, bring on black bond that'd be great.

[QUOTE=Mr. N;46785074]It's kind of a thing of the times, the British "posh upper class spy" of the times that bond takes place in would not include a black guy. There is also the fact that if Bond is the same guy throughout, you got to at least try to get your various replacement actors to fit the role of the posh, Scottish, white character. Forcing an entire race change on a character so established is tryhard and honestly annoying. However if they canonize the codename thing, then yeah, bring on black bond that'd be great.[/QUOTE] The fact is we live in the 21st century, not the 20th. In spy agencies now, you will see all races.

[QUOTE=Fapplejack;46784519]We can't have Black people playing the lead in our fictional action tales, just like we can't have Japanese people playing the lead in our dramatizations of historic Japanese events.[/QUOTE] I just been to new Hobbit yesterday and yeah, not a single dark-skinned, black or asian guys.

Are we still in the stone age or something? He's British and good at acting and that's the only thing you need for the role. I don't think flemming specified a skin colour as far as I know (but then again, I've never read the books).

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;46785087]I just been to new Hobbit yesterday and yeah, not a single dark-skinned, black or asian guys.[/QUOTE] If you still haven't read it, Chris Rock's essay on race issues in Hollywood is a really good read. [url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/top-five-filmmaker-chris-rock-753223[/url]

They should cast a Native American instead.

Black Bond? Now all we need is Black Jesus, just give that fucker on the cross some shoe shine and we're all set.

[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;46785083]The fact is we live in the 21st century, not the 20th. In spy agencies now, you will see all races.[/QUOTE] If this bond is the same bond we have been seeing from the old days, he is a white, scottish, posh guy. So far they stuck to trying to make him the same guy by casting him with similar people. If it's a reboot, or a canonization of codenames, it works and would be really cool. But if not, changing an entire established character on it's ass for no reason is just lazy.

too bad in europe being black isn't a thing, fuck off Limbaugh

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;46785087]I just been to new Hobbit yesterday and yeah, not a single dark-skinned, black or asian guys.[/QUOTE] It had a whole army of gay fairy men, so props to Peter for that one. But seriously, can we stop trying to be ultra-correct and try to shove excuse-negros into movies to show the rest of the world how progressive we are? If a black actor would genuinely fit the role, give him the role. Don't give him the role because you think your movie needs more black people. That's just fucked up. I'm not specifically talking about James Bond. Just the modern day political correctness gone wild zeitgeist in general. [highlight](User was banned for this post (""excuse-negros"" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=V12US;46785119]It had a whole army of gay fairy men, so props to Peter for that one. But seriously, can we stop trying to be ultra-correct and try to shove excuse-negros into movies to show the rest of the world how progressive we are? If a black actor would genuinely fit the role, give him the role. Don't give him the role because you think your movie needs more black people. That's just fucked up. I'm not specifically talking about James Bond. Just the modern day political correctness gone wild zeitgeist in general.[/QUOTE] It's still in my clipboard from the post above, go read this: [url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/top-five-filmmaker-chris-rock-753223[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr. N;46785074]It's kind of a thing of the times, the British "posh upper class spy" of the times that bond takes place in would not include a black guy. There is also the fact that if Bond is the same guy throughout, you got to at least try to get your various replacement actors to fit the role of the posh, Scottish, white character. Forcing an entire race change on a character so established is tryhard and honestly annoying. However if they canonize the codename thing, then yeah, bring on black bond that'd be great.[/QUOTE] i don't get what's tryhard about getting a skilled actor in the role, changing up stuff is really just a side benefit (albeit a really good one in my opinion). and you're forgetting that A) the continuity already makes no sense at all to begin with and B) casino royale already completely rebooted everything from the start. there is a precedent for a change like this. and it's not like the plot sequencing in the series is some kind of untouchable holy grail deeply incorporated into the character, it's a complete and utter afterthought and that's all it will ever be.

[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;46785125]It's still in my clipboard from the post above, go read this: [url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/top-five-filmmaker-chris-rock-753223[/url][/QUOTE] I'm not sure what your point is, other than to try and guilt trip me for some reason.