British actor Idris Elba cannot star as James Bond because he is black, says Rush Limbaugh - Polidicks

Bond is not a single person character, he is like Doctor Who. There are many Bonds, changing skin color is nothing major.

[QUOTE=valkery;46787848]"I can overlook facial structure changes, movement changes, voice changes, age changes, attitude changes and advancements in technology that border on the absurd, but the instant you change Bond's skin color, then we've got a problem. It changes EVERYTHING in ways that it has clearly never been changed before! I'll never enjoy the other movies or books or anything related to this fictional character again unless the next movie staring this fictional character that has changed bodies seven times over 50 years has a skin tone that I feel fits him better." This is a stupid discussion. If you don't want to see a black person playing Bond, don't go see the movie. It's not like the movie is going to make you watch it.[/QUOTE] Elba could play novel Bond to the T and people would still be against it But ofc it's "not a race thing"

I just don't get why he has to be James Bond. James Bond isn't a code name, it's an actual character. I'd be fine with him playing 007 just don't name his character James Bond, that's already an established character and changing his race just doesn't seem like a good way to go about spicing things up.

Bond is an established character? Oh please. Each time he's portrayed he looks different, acts different and is different. The only common thing is that he's a dude and white. Changing his skin color is not an issue really.

[QUOTE=Kristviljan;46787914]I just don't get why he has to be James Bond. James Bond isn't a code name, it's an actual character. I'd be fine with him playing 007 just don't name his character James Bond, that's already an established character and changing his race just doesn't seem like a good way to go about spicing things up.[/QUOTE] If he's an established character, he's one that has changed a lot over the years and this would be just another change

[QUOTE=Kristviljan;46787914]I just don't get why he has to be James Bond. James Bond isn't a code name, it's an actual character. I'd be fine with him playing 007 just don't name his character James Bond, that's already an established character and changing his race just doesn't seem like a good way to go about spicing things up.[/QUOTE] Established character lmao Read Casino Royale and then watch the movie

[QUOTE=Kristviljan;46787914]I just don't get why he has to be James Bond. James Bond isn't a code name, it's an actual character. I'd be fine with him playing 007 just don't name his character James Bond, that's already an established character and changing his race just doesn't seem like a good way to go about spicing things up.[/QUOTE] Dude, almost every aspect of Bond has changed over the last 50 years. What is so different about skin color that is getting people all pissy? I know I mentioned in another thread that I don't like this trend of changing aspects of a character simply to seem more inclusive to a wider group of viewers, but I can get over that annoyance pretty fast. In fact, I got over it while I was typing this sentence. See how easy that was? See how fast you can go from "This is terrible and shouldn't happen" to "Eh, it really won't impact me negatively unless I let it?" Now let's have everyone else try. C'mon everybody; stop giving a shit about what other people are doing unless it directly impacts your life. This movie isn't going to rape you, it won't burn down your house, it won't steal from you, it won't get your daughter pregnant, it won't make you gain weight, it won't make your bones brittle, it won't wreck your car, and it won't force your dog into becoming a meth addict. It will do literally nothing. The only people who are going to be impacted by this in any physical sense are the makeup artists when they have to switch from pink tones to cinnamon with their blushes. Outside of that, any negative impact of this movie will be a construct of the viewers' mind. If you think you're one of the incredibly close-minded people who can't assimilate this variation of an ever-changing character into the realm of acceptable iterations, don't go see the movie. And then shut the fuck up, because no one wants to hear any more complaining over something that should never have been an issue in the first place. Note: I'm not just talking to the person I quoted, I'm talking to anyone who shares in his sentiment.

Eh, whatever, I don't really care so much about it, just grew up watching bond films and I guess the idea of him being a white man is sort of ingrained in me. If he can pull it off then I see no reason not to let him play him.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;46784279]It's a uniquely British role, which is why a black James Bond would make about as much sense as an American James Bond.[/QUOTE] Except Connery was Scottish, I'm sure if you asked him these days to his face if he was british he'd laugh at you. Pierce Brosnan is Irish, born and raised in Meath How is being black and nationally and culturally "british" any different (let alone [I]worse[/I]) than being irish or scottish and faking a posh english accent? Indris Elba is a british man, he has a natively english accent, he was born in London, how does skin color change his attitude, culture and character?

I'm guessing that they're trying to avoid another "Green Lanteen". People raise eyebrows if you make the character white again.

Make Craig Bond die and officially introduce "[del]007[/del] James Bond is a codename now" and do "You only live twice" but the other way around. Bond is actually dead but nobody knows. Or make him James Bond Jr. :v: . It'd be a pleasant change to see an established character (not neccessarily James Bond) being played by different black dudes. Doctor Who would have an easier job at pulling this off obviously. [sp]"Bond. James Bond. James Bond Jr."[/sp] [sp]sry[/sp]

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;46787953]If he's an established character, he's one that has changed a lot over the years and this would be just another change[/QUOTE] If you change too much then what is there left that distinguishes James Bond as a movie and character compared to other similar action movies ? I personally don't like Daniel Craig as James Bond, to me he would fit more as some Russian antagonist. [quote=hypno_toad]How is being black and nationally and culturally "british" any different (let alone worse) than being irish or scottish and faking a posh english accent? Indris Elba is a british man, he has a natively english accent, he was born in London, how does skin color change his attitude, culture and character? [/quote] In your head picture yourself a british person. How does he look ?

[QUOTE=AntonioR;46788775]If you change too much then what is there left that distinguishes James Bond as a movie and character compared to other similar action movies ? I personally don't like Daniel Craig as James Bond, to me he would fit more as some Russian antagonist.[/QUOTE] Can you name what makes Bond Bond? He is as generic of a cliche spy person as it gets.

[QUOTE=valkery;46788035]Dude, almost every aspect of Bond has changed over the last 50 years. What is so different about skin color that is getting people all pissy?[/QUOTE] ok he literally just said that he believes he was the same person in all the movies and not just a codename and you're asking this

Why should they change Ian Fleming's character over political correctness?

[QUOTE=Saigon;46788881]Why should they change Ian Fleming's character over political correctness?[/QUOTE] why shouldn't they hire an awesome actor for the role because of his skin colour? Do you object to Bond being black or the character changing because the character hasn't been accurate to the books for literally decades. Superman has always been white as fuck. If he was black, would you, or anyone here object to that?

[QUOTE=Saigon;46788881]Why should they change Ian Fleming's character over political correctness?[/QUOTE] For the last time, it's not over political correctness, it's because [I]Idris Elba is a good fucking actor and is an englishman.[/I]

[QUOTE=AntonioR;46788775] In your head picture yourself a british person. How does he look ?[/QUOTE] Like Idris Elba. What kind of question even is that.

This is a perfect example of white privilege and why qualified black people have trouble finding good jobs.

[QUOTE=AntonioR;46788775]If you change too much then what is there left that distinguishes James Bond as a movie and character compared to other similar action movies ?[/QUOTE] Like it has been said hundreds of times: Idris Elba is charismatic and physically fit, and has shown he can be bold, suave, daring, and intimidating. All of the characteristics that define James Bond. If you think skin color is what defines 007 and that changing it would change him beyond recognition, then you might just not know the character. [editline]25th December 2014[/editline] You said you didn't like Craig - well, Idris has all of the Bond characteristics that Craig doesn't, the ONE difference is that he's black

[QUOTE=jiggu;46787416]Uh, thanks? That's exactly what I give a shit about, and that's what I like about Bond, and it's why I watch Bond.[/QUOTE] i really don't understand why such a character can't be black [editline]25th December 2014[/editline] and lol at people saying that a british man cannot play a 'uniquely british' character

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;46788889]For the last time, it's not over political correctness, it's because [I]Idris Elba is a good fucking actor and is an englishman.[/I][/QUOTE] Don't kid yourself, it's a trend lately to replace well established characters with black characters for political correctness. What do you think would happen if they made well established black characters white?

I'd understand being upset at a change to a terrible actor(which Idris Elba isn't) but if a character can change multiple times between multiple people with multiple ages back and forth, why the hell can James Bond be a British black guy? It's secret agent shit, codenames and all that jazz [editline]25th December 2014[/editline] It's not like we are talking about a definite character here, like Gandalf.

[QUOTE=Saigon;46789029]Don't kid yourself, it's a trend lately to replace well established characters with black characters for political correctness. What do you think would happen if they made well established black characters white?[/QUOTE] really? who else is there? [editline]25th December 2014[/editline] could it possibly be that it isn't political correctness but rather wanting a bit of variety? or maybe thinking that certain actors are good for the role?

[QUOTE=Saigon;46789029]Don't kid yourself, it's a trend lately to replace well established characters with black characters for political correctness. What do you think would happen if they made well established black characters white?[/QUOTE] Like I asked you, would superman being black being highly offensive to you? this isn't a trend of political correctness. this is a trend of black people becoming seen as actual people.

guys, it isn't for political correctness holy fuck political correctness hasn't killed your whole family, calm down

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;46789070]really? who else is there?[/QUOTE] Annie, Captain America, Green Lantern, etc. And now James Bond.

Elba is a genuinely good actor.

[QUOTE=Saigon;46789104]Annie, Captain America, Green Lantern, etc. And now James Bond.[/QUOTE] Green lantern being black is an issue for you? Jesus christ, it's a ring that can be given to anyone of worth, and you're saying a black guy getting it is offensive? That's pretty much racism

[QUOTE=Swebonny;46785760]Do you think the same about remakes of movies such as Akira with a complete a white cast? Or Dragon Ball lol.[/QUOTE] Weird how all these people who are concerned about non-white people playing typically white roles (like james bond, dr who, whatever) are nowhere to be seen when movies like new akira and exodus are announced.