British actor Idris Elba cannot star as James Bond because he is black, says Rush Limbaugh - Polidicks

It might feel kinda weird at first I guess but I don't really see too much of a problem with this. I'm sure he'll make an awesome Bond.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;46789221]"Oh James, I remember spending that summer with you in France, what happened since then?" "I got a tan.." That's my problem. While the codename 007 can be transferred, the name James Bond isn't. That's his name. There's no explanation as to why a new guy has his name. That, to me, is like if Harry Potter all of a sudden turned black in the middle of the series. It's a major story breaker that can't be explained by "well maybe he dyed his hair". In fact, I couldn't take Daniel Craig seriously as James Bond because he didn't appeal to me physically as a Bond type character.[/QUOTE] "woah white british actor guy, why are you suddenly DANIEL CRAIG?" *laugh track plays as my post wins post of the year, i go up to the stage with tears in my eyes and thank all of the people who rated me funny*

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46789627]"woah white british actor guy, why are you suddenly DANIEL CRAIG?" *laugh track plays as my post wins post of the year, i go up to the stage with tears in my eyes and thank all of the people who rated me funny*[/QUOTE] I don't like Daniel Craig in the role either. I don't think he fits the stereotypical James Bond either. But people don't seem to read that part....

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46789571]I'll just say you cited some real true cinematic classics there to make your argument. Real classy.[/QUOTE] I know, right ? All great and fun movies, not like mainstream shit they make today.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;46789649]I don't like Daniel Craig in the role either. I don't think he fits the stereotypical James Bond either. But people don't seem to read that part....[/QUOTE] Of course not, it doesn't fit into the "you're a racist and a bad person" assumption that progressives make about many of those who disagree with them. Btw, I expect to get enough boxes for a pretty big fort. Don't let me down.

wtf james bond can't be black. everyone would be asking "james, why are you black now" also, why does james not use a moonraker laser to kill the villain in skyfall? why didn't he ever say "hey remember that time I went into space and shot at a guy with a laser rifle" my james bond continuity is ruined [editline]25th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=sgman91;46789723]Of course not, it doesn't fit into the "you're a racist and a bad person" assumption that progressives make about many of those who disagree with them. Btw, I expect to get enough boxes for a pretty big fort. Don't let me down.[/QUOTE] you can say "Idris Elba just doesn't seem like a good fit for 007" without once mentioning his race so if someone does mention his skin color I'm going to assume that's the thing they have a problem with, and that's fucking retarded and racist as shit

he's called james BOND not james BLACK

[QUOTE=sgman91;46789723]Of course not, it doesn't fit into the "you're a racist and a bad person" assumption that progressives make about many of those who disagree with them.[/QUOTE] Since you're just trying to start shit and not presenting an argument should I assume you ran out of them??

[QUOTE=sgman91;46789723]Of course not, it doesn't fit into the "you're a racist and a bad person" assumption that progressives make about many of those who disagree with them. Btw, I expect to get enough boxes for a pretty big fort. Don't let me down.[/QUOTE] reading his post, it doesn't matter that he mentions he doesn't like a white guy in the role, he stated flatly a black guy can't play the role, who gives a shit if he's tossing out he also happens to not like a white guys portrayal of the character? The important thing you ignore is that he says the role cannot be played by a talented black actor. [editline]24th December 2014[/editline] but no, do your passive aggressive "oh i'm so persecuted" thing

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;46789829]Since you're just trying to start shit and not presenting an argument should I assume you ran out of them??[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure this is my first post in this thread. It's just good to point out that people completely ignore what their opposition says when it doesn't fit into the already accepted narrative. If he didn't like Daniel Craig for the same reasons that he doesn't like this guy (they don't fit the James Bond character), then it obviously isn't because he doesn't like black people. [editline]24th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46789835]reading his post, it doesn't matter that he mentions he doesn't like a white guy in the role, he stated flatly a black guy can't play the role, who gives a shit if he's tossing out he also happens to not like a white guys portrayal of the character? The important thing you ignore is that he says the role cannot be played by a talented black actor. [editline]24th December 2014[/editline] but no, do your passive aggressive "oh i'm so persecuted" thing[/QUOTE] The purpose for disliking both is the same, and it isn't purely because of their skin color. From what I can tell he doesn't want non-British white people either. Does that make him a hater of Americans? Of course not.

[QUOTE=sgman91;46789843]I'm pretty sure this is my first post in this thread. It's just good to point out that people completely ignore what their opposition says when it doesn't fit into the already accepted narrative. If he didn't like Daniel Craig for the same reasons that he doesn't like this guy (they don't fit the James Bond character), then it obviously isn't because he doesn't like black people. [editline]24th December 2014[/editline] The purpose for disliking both is the same, and it isn't because of their skin color. From what I can tell he doesn't want non-British white people either. Does that make him a hater of Americans? Of course not.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;46789221]"Oh James, I remember spending that summer with you in France, what happened since then?" "I got a tan.." That's my problem.[/QUOTE] I think it is.

Idris is a great actor and id like to see what he could do. But there is no reason to do this. The character has been played by a british white guy forever now and no need to change that. Kinda like how in Fantastic Four, the torch brother is black for no reason when they've been white brother and sister forever. Its just one of those things that doesnt need to be changed.

[QUOTE=mark6789;46789853]Idris is a great actor and id like to see what he could do. But there is no reason to do this. The character has been played by a british white guy forever now and no need to change that. Kinda like how in Fantastic Four, the torch brother is black for no reason when they've been white brother and sister forever. Its just one of those things that doesnt need to be changed.[/QUOTE] There's no need to change it, but there's no reason not to change it. I would say the fact that James has been played by a white man since forever is a reason to change, if only to toss things up a little. Difference makes old things feel new again, and that includes franchises.

[QUOTE=mark6789;46789853] But there is no reason to do this.[/QUOTE] Is there a reason to [I]not[/I] do it then?

[QUOTE=sgman91;46789843]I'm pretty sure this is my first post in this thread. It's just good to point out that people completely ignore what their opposition says when it doesn't fit into the already accepted narrative. If he didn't like Daniel Craig for the same reasons that he doesn't like this guy (they don't fit the James Bond character), then it obviously isn't because he doesn't like black people. [editline]24th December 2014[/editline] The purpose for disliking both is the same, and it isn't purely because of their skin color. From what I can tell he doesn't want non-British white people either. Does that make him a hater of Americans? Of course not.[/QUOTE] What makes a british black guy incapable of playing the role in any objective sense? Here's my issue, you can't offer me a reason why having him be black is a problem without it becoming racially motivated on your end. Here's why; You can complain about it for deviating from the books or the literature, but it does this in so many ways that really, you couldn't be made happy by much of anything in any modern interpretation. If you want a classy bond played in a vintage way, does it matter what his skin colour is? I ask because these films aren't set historically, they're set in whatever modern world variation it is. So, in that world, what reasonable complaint can you give me that would prevent Bond from being black that isn't racially motivated? If the only character of Idris(an actor, you know, a profession where they portray people in different ways and are capable of acting in more than one style) that invalidates him from being bond is that he's black, isn't that racial?

[QUOTE=Bobie;46789801]he's called james BOND not james BLACK[/QUOTE] can we get a ban for a horrible joke in here?

[QUOTE=AntonioR;46789528]In many movies you can't just ignore the characters race, it fuels the story. Shaft(2000) can't be a white dude, because it's a story about a black cop and racial problems. Rush hour is all about black guy and chinese guy, movie wouldn't even make sense if they were both the same race. Shangai Noon, lethal weapon was the same. There are thousands of other examples.[/QUOTE] when has being white ever played a big part in a james bond film?

[QUOTE=Muntu;46789865]Is there a reason to [I]not[/I] do it then?[/QUOTE] Me, you and the rest of this forum wouldnt mind the change but just imagine the outrage of the idiots of a black bond and potentially bombing at the box office. I like change and refreshing ideas like this but im just afraid of the negative feedback it could have from dumb people

[QUOTE=mark6789;46789932]Me, you and the rest of this forum wouldnt mind the change but just imagine the outrage of the idiots of a black bond and potentially bombing at the box office. I like change and refreshing ideas like this but im just afraid of the negative feedback it could have from dumb people[/QUOTE] Fuck the dumb people. They can deal with it. Bigots having outdated views shouldn't stand in the way of change and refreshing ideas.

[QUOTE=mark6789;46789932]Me, you and the rest of this forum wouldnt mind the change but just imagine the outrage of the idiots of a black bond and potentially bombing at the box office. I like change and refreshing ideas like this but im just afraid of the negative feedback it could have from dumb people[/QUOTE] People love Idris Elba and if it can match the numbers of Casino Royale and Skyfall it'll be amazing (sorry to those who don't like Craig, apparently no one else gives a shit) I don't remember reading a single post here saying that Idris shouldn't play Bond because he's not a Bond type actor, only because he's black

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46789885]What makes a british black guy incapable of playing the role in any objective sense? Here's my issue, you can't offer me a reason why having him be black is a problem without it becoming racially motivated on your end. Here's why; You can complain about it for deviating from the books or the literature, but it does this in so many ways that really, you couldn't be made happy by much of anything in any modern interpretation. If you want a classy bond played in a vintage way, does it matter what his skin colour is? I ask because these films aren't set historically, they're set in whatever modern world variation it is. So, in that world, what reasonable complaint can you give me that would prevent Bond from being black that isn't racially motivated? If the only character of Idris(an actor, you know, a profession where they portray people in different ways and are capable of acting in more than one style) that invalidates him from being bond is that he's black, isn't that racial?[/QUOTE] There's a difference between something being racial and something being racist. He doesn't want a black James Bond because it doesn't fit, not because he is black. He also doesn't want Daniel Craig because he didn't fit for other reasons. Not all racial reasons are inherently wrong. It isn't wrong to want an asian actor to play an asian character, a black actor to play a black character, or a white actor to play a white character, and so far, James Bond has been a white character. You may not care about him staying that way, but that doesn't mean that everyone who disagrees must hate black people. They might just want some semblance of James Bond looking like James Bond.

[QUOTE=AntonioR;46789528]In many movies you can't just ignore the characters race, it fuels the story. Shaft(2000) can't be a white dude, because it's a story about a black cop and racial problems. Rush hour is all about black guy and chinese guy, movie wouldn't even make sense if they were both the same race. Shangai Noon, lethal weapon was the same. There are thousands of other examples.[/QUOTE] Wtf it's James Bond not Django Unchained

Ah yes, he could be one of the few black people from scotland.

[QUOTE=sgman91;46789958]There's a difference between something being racial and something being racist. He doesn't want a black James Bond because it doesn't fit, not because he is black. He also doesn't want Daniel Craig because he didn't fit for other reasons. Not all racial reasons are inherently wrong. It isn't wrong to want an asian actor to play an asian character, a black actor to play a black character, or a white actor to play a white character, and so far, James Bond has been a white character. You may not care about him staying that way, but that doesn't mean that everyone who disagrees must hate black people. They might just want some semblance of James Bond looking like James Bond.[/QUOTE] Looking like who? A generic white guy who doesn't really fit any one description? Hmm, why does widening that to a black guy cross the line in such a way? It seems to me, that is a very racial reason to feel a certain way. If the only characteristic of an actor that invalidates him is that he's black, can you explain to me why that is okay? Would superman being black be across that same line?

[QUOTE=andy85258;46789972]Ah yes, he could be one of the few black people from scotland.[/QUOTE] Ya dude he'll fit right in with the James Bonds who are Irish-American, Welsh, Australian, Londoners, Norwegian...

Hey, Rush. . .George Lazenby's Australian, not Scottish. So suck it.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46789986]If the only characteristic of an actor that invalidates him is that he's black, can you explain to me why that is okay?[/QUOTE] Are you literally ignoring the part about Daniel Craig not quite looking the part either on purpose? Here, let me quote where he specifically mentioned it: [QUOTE] In fact, I couldn't take Daniel Craig seriously as James Bond because he didn't appeal to me physically as a Bond type character.[/QUOTE]

OOPS I guess 30,000 black Scots simply don't exist anymore maybe they were fairies all along [editline]24th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=sgman91;46790005]Are you literally ignoring the part about Daniel Craig not quite looking the part either on purpose?[/QUOTE] Yeah but a lot of people liked him and his movies sold so apparently the movie writers don't give a rat's ass and neither do the audience "Actually you know what I didn't like Skyfall that much to begin with anyway"

[QUOTE=sgman91;46790005]Are you literally ignoring the part about Daniel Craig not quite looking the part either on purpose? Here, let me quote where he specifically mentioned it:[/QUOTE] ok but what does being white or black have to do with james bond? how is it a central part of his character? when has him being white ever had a impact on any of the films?

[QUOTE=Jund;46790008]Yeah but a lot of people liked him and his movies sold so apparently the movie writers don't give a rat's ass and neither do the audience[/QUOTE] That's true, but it also has nothing to do with the argument at hand. No one's ever argued that people in general wouldn't like Idris or that they don't like Craig.