• Video shows Islamist rebels executing 11 Syrian soldiers
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[QUOTE=GunFox;40674166]Rebel forces generally lack the cohesion or facilities necessary to effectively house POW's. Rebel forces can't even hope to actually meet the requirements of the Geneva conventions for POW treatment. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Geneva_Convention[/url] Basically the very act of rebellion violates the Geneva conventions. Nobody ever anywhere follows the Geneva conventions. Nor should they. You want to be outraged, great, the rebels are likely a bunch of worthless assholes, but just call them dicks. Don't pretend like you have some useful legal backing for it. They are facing each other in a battle to the death, getting offended because they aren't following the ridiculous set of rules that nobody ever follows anyways is silly.[/QUOTE] How is the rule "Don't shoot unarmed people that are your prisoners" a ridiculous rule? I know the rebels probably have no prison facilities as they're not an actual government and they have no infrastructure or proper organization. I'm not sure what they should do with them, but the one thing they shouldn't do is indiscriminately execute them all as it makes them absolutely no better than the men they're fighting. The rebels claimed the men slaughtered a village of unarmed civilians, how does them slaughtering a group of unarmed POW's make them any better or worthy of support than the men they're killing?
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;40676892]jesus the hypocrisy here is frightening. islam is hateful and destructive but your comments that anyone who is muslim (over one billion people) can just fucking die is okay? you're far more frightening than anything i've ever read in the quran. you're fucking mental that isn't true at all and there's tonnes of sociological studies on this and the nature of modern religion, belief, and knowledge. you can't lump your average muslim living in a uk suburb, going to the mosque once a week, in with extremists chopping people's heads off[/QUOTE] I don't understand how you can even function without a feeding tube. you are trying to justify immeasurable pain with the flip side of islam which is some deluded fucking idiots believing in a blatantly fictional god because it ''makes them feel better''. you wouldn't sit in defense of someone who worships hitler because he had a fabulous hair cut and tries to make the claim that the holocaust never happened and hitler didn't hate anybody. so please explain to me WHY you want to defend non-violent muslims when you can clearly see that they value their own personal comfort ahead of everything else in the universe.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;40676676]2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. 5:33 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified 4:89 But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. 8:39 Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme[/QUOTE] please tell me in what aya those totally legit words from the quran are in because im sure that there are nothing in the quran about make war on them till the end and crucified them and yes people kill each other at war but muslim dont go kill people like that also yes the quran said take no prisoners in wars and never execute them and muhammad told that if you DID take prisoners the prisoners can 1: pay and if he dont have any money he can work and get payed (no slave work) 2: become muslim 3: promise to go and never comeback (im not sure on this one) those guys arent muslims at all because they go around killing women and kids im sorry for the long texts it makes me mad that people writes lies about the quran and makes muslims look even more bad :(
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40677035]He's actually kind of wrong. Allah Akbar is most commonly translated to God is Great. The context it's used in is generally much wider than "Oh my God". It can be used in just about any context, happiness, excitement, sadness, fear, anger, etc.[/QUOTE] I know its God Is great, and that's exactly why I find it...amusing? , but, dude, to use it while you are about to kill people (or destroy some tanks) is....fucked up. Way too fucked up.
[QUOTE=e_k_M;40677165]please tell me in what aya those totally legit words from the quran are in because im sure that there are nothing in the quran about make war on them till the end and crucified them and yes people kill each other at war but muslim dont go kill people like that also yes the quran said take no prisoners in wars and never execute them and muhammad told that if you DID take prisoners the prisoners can 1: pay and he dont have any money he can work and get payed (no slave work) 2: become muslim 3: promise to go and never comeback (im not sure on this one) those guys arent muslims at all because they go around killing women and kids im sorry for the long texts it makes me mad that people writes lies about the quran and makes muslims look even more bad :([/QUOTE] at no point did I try to claim that islam, nor any religion makes any sense or has any consistency at all.
I think anyone putting their minds through the mental gymnastics necessary to actually be able to support a side in this war, personally, should be committed. That being said, no one deserves to be tied up and shot like a dog, especially not on camera so that it can be uploaded for everyone to see. That does not make your enemy fear you, especially when said video accurately portrays your incompetence at handling a firearm. It's no wonder that the executioner ended up dead in a real combat situation.
What a lovely video to come home to and watch, 10/10
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;40677215]at no point did I try to claim that islam, nor any religion makes any sense or has any consistency at all.[/QUOTE] but you did write words from the quran that did not exist im not going to start insulting you because thats stupid and never helps i just want to say that the place you whatever you copy and pasted those words are wrong
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;40677125]I don't understand how you can even function without a feeding tube. you are trying to justify immeasurable pain with the flip side of islam which is some deluded fucking idiots believing in a blatantly fictional god because it ''makes them feel better''. you wouldn't sit in defense of someone who worships hitler because he had a fabulous hair cut and tries to make the claim that the holocaust never happened and hitler didn't hate anybody. so please explain to me WHY you want to defend non-violent muslims when you can clearly see that they value their own personal comfort ahead of everything else in the universe.[/QUOTE] :/ [editline]17th May 2013[/editline] how yo can you even be so incoherent people who believe in god in order to give their life some meaning = people who love hitler for having a haircut and claim that he's a great guy and that the holocaust never happened lol wtf you're actually bonkers
[quote=Youtube]oh no it should be broadcast to the world. Every man woman and child on this planet should forced to watch this video.* Because [b]this video IS ISLAM[/b]. [/quote] 9 UP VOTES!? :suicide:
it's not even remotely similar because 1. people who believe in a god and take the good stuff out of a holy text aren't disputing things that actually happened in recent history - they're just taking lessons from a piece of fiction 2. people who pretend hitler was a nice guy and that the holocaust never happened are disputing things that actually happened in recent history [editline]17th May 2013[/editline] how batshit insane can you get to actually believe with any conviction what you're saying. you tout hitler as a bad man but you're openly condemning billions to death based on their religion
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;40677125]so please explain to me WHY you want to defend non-violent muslims when you can clearly see that they value their own personal comfort ahead of everything else in the universe.[/QUOTE] Please tell me I'm not reading this right unless you're actually mad at your average muslim who does nothing to make me hate or even dislike him.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;40676722]go ahead, amuse me. try arguing with fact.[/QUOTE] How can you live on this planet believing that most of the worlds population are mentally I'll?
I think everyone's had enough, get your shit together seriously Syria, its been too long.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;40677125]I don't understand how you can even function without a feeding tube. you are trying to justify immeasurable pain with the flip side of islam which is some deluded fucking idiots believing in a blatantly fictional god because it ''makes them feel better''. you wouldn't sit in defense of someone who worships hitler because he had a fabulous hair cut and tries to make the claim that the holocaust never happened and hitler didn't hate anybody. so please explain to me WHY you want to defend non-violent muslims when you can clearly see that they value their own personal comfort ahead of everything else in the universe.[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ buddy, calm down.
[QUOTE=benzer;40676182]Allah Akbar![/QUOTE] Really piss me off every time I hear them say that, not just in this video. But a lot of there videos out there that show violence and death.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;40677476]Please tell me I'm not reading this right unless you're actually mad at your average muslim who does nothing to make me hate or even dislike him.[/QUOTE] maybe you don't dislike people who think sexism is fine. but I fucking hate them, and I hate you for not hating them.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40673965]Not all factions of the Syrian resistance are islamist extremists, and not all of them are executing POW's. Doesn't fucking matter what the men they're executing did. Doesn't matter if they raped 100 women and burnt down a school full of orphans. Executing POW's is a war crime and absolutely despicable. The fact you're seemingly OK with POW's being executed because they might have been bad people is pretty disgusting.[/QUOTE] War is war
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;40677584]maybe you don't dislike people who think sexism is fine. but I fucking hate them, and I hate you for not hating them.[/QUOTE] Just because a person identifies as Muslim doesn't automatically mean that they fully support every facet of the religion.
Remember how we removed the child molesting and kidnapping Taliban from Afghanistan and replaced them with those morally superior corrupt afghan native security who also molest and kidnap children? Now we cant really expect every revolution, uprising or rebel freedom fighter group to have the best quality's of humanity when their dealing with enemy prisoners. I dont really know how bad the syrian goverment was but I doubt they were any better.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;40676450]uuh. NOT doing what these people did in the video is a direct violation of commandments from the quran. this is not extremism. in fact extremism is a pretty useless word. these people are doing exactly what the quran tells them to do and anyone opposed to what they do also deserves death according to the quran. you have an extremely distorted view of what religion is.[/QUOTE] Uh yes it is extremism, they're filming the executions, reading something that totally justifies the reason of the execution then shooting them 1 by 1 in the head, those people would of been frightened as fuck, did you see they jumped at the first shot. Muslims are suppose to be fucking peaceful
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;40677584]maybe you don't dislike people who think sexism is fine. but I fucking hate them, and I hate you for not hating them.[/QUOTE] your whole life is hypocritical
[QUOTE=Leo Leonardo;40677639]Just because a person identifies as Muslim doesn't automatically mean that they fully support every facet of the religion.[/QUOTE] thank you for at least recognizing the difference between identifying as a muslim and being a muslim.
[QUOTE=Leo Leonardo;40677639]Just because a person identifies as Muslim doesn't automatically mean that they fully support every facet of the religion.[/QUOTE] My stock broker is an Indian Muslim. He's married to a rather pretty woman who never has to wear a burka because they believe that if Allah made women pretty it was because he wanted people to look at them, not cover them up. He also says that he treats his wife as an equal because if she was not meant to be equal Allah wouldn't have made her equal. I'm not a very religious person but I think that's a pretty cool way to look at things.
Frankly, i'm amazed this is on youtube
Time to support Assad... What? This shit is getting worse...
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;40673845]what a great country[/QUOTE] what an ignorant comment
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;40677584]maybe you don't dislike people who think sexism is fine. but I fucking hate them, and I hate you for not hating them.[/QUOTE] You need help.
[QUOTE=Broguts;40677943]My stock broker is an Indian Muslim. He's married to a rather pretty woman who never has to wear a burka because they believe that if Allah made women pretty it was because he wanted people to look at them, not cover them up. He also says that he treats his wife as an equal because if she was not meant to be equal Allah wouldn't have made her equal. I'm not a very religious person but I think that's a pretty cool way to look at things.[/QUOTE] do you not understand the problem here? sure, that's a great outlook to have on things. but it is nothing like what islam actually preaches. people can and will pick bits and pieces of religions wherever convenient just to add meaning or guidance to their life, but the problem with this is that because of these people, whenever someone tries to criticize religion or raise awareness of it's harmfulness to society, you get infinite amounts of ignorant people saying things like ''I know plenty of muslims that aren't violent'', ''I'm christian and I don't have a problem with homosexuals'' etc. knowing what islam stands for, knowing what it's done to so many people, they still choose to describe themselves as muslims. clearly the suffering of these people means little to these so called moderate muslims, otherwise they would never want to be associated with it. [editline]17th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Fayez;40678278]You need help.[/QUOTE] you have so many thoughtful points to offer to the discussion.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;40678397] you have so many thoughtful points to offer to the discussion.[/QUOTE] Forgive me for not wanting to have a discussion with a person who would be fine with the death of billions of people.
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