• [UK] Hospital apologises after moving RAF man because of uniform
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Ok, before anyone jumps to conclusions the staff were totally in a sound mindset. There have been instances where members of the armed forces encounter abuse from the general public. If anything this is actually a good thing and respectful for the individual's safety. This was nothing to do with discrimination; and as per usual the twatness will jump to the wrong conclusion. "Oh I'm offended by your worrying about my safety". [editline]26th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Theman!;48765853]is this even an issue? I don't understand why anyone would care about being asked to move, it's not like they told him to leave or get changed[/QUOTE] No it isn't. And it's not the army's decision which area in A&E they have to sit in, it's entirely up to the people in charge. If you're unhappy, fill a complaint form, don't brag to the goddamn press like a burk.
Removing fucking PCS is irritating on a good day. Doing it while in significant pain, because hospital staff thought your uniform might upset people around you? No thanks.
[QUOTE=kaukassus;48765190]How would you react if you get moved just because of how you look / profession / race / gender whatever? Is doing that okay?[/QUOTE] yes that's perfectly fucking fine if there's a chance my being in one part of the hospital could cause problems. I'm not so naive that I think everyone around me isn't a massive bigot/biased against whatever the hell I am, I understand that it's just safer to move certain people out of public sight if their appearance is enough to set some morons off. yeah it sucks that people can be that stupid but it's not the hospital's fault and it doesn't make the situation any worse for the officer. He's still receiving the care he needs and until idiots like you started getting mad over nothing, there were no problems at all with the situation.
This really isn't as bad as it's made out to be, is it.
[QUOTE=kaukassus;48765190]How would you react if you get moved just because of how you look / profession / race / gender whatever? Is doing that okay?[/QUOTE] If I were injured while I was on TDY in Africa, and the hospital wanted to move me away from African patients to a different wing (where I would receive the [i]exact same care[/i]) so as to avoid any possible issues stemming from ongoing racial tension, I would be 100% fine with it. I wouldn't freak out over 'discrimination' just because the hospital is doing their best to try to prevent an incident without unduly impacting me or my well-being.
[QUOTE=catbarf;48780632]If I were injured while I was on TDY in Africa, and the hospital wanted to move me away from African patients to a different wing (where I would receive the [i]exact same care[/i]) so as to avoid any possible issues stemming from ongoing racial tension, I would be 100% fine with it. I wouldn't freak out over 'discrimination' just because the hospital is doing their best to try to prevent an incident without unduly impacting me or my well-being.[/QUOTE] No shit because those aren't your countrymen and being in public in Africa in your uniform would make you a giant target. Two totally different scenarios.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;48780900]No shit because those aren't your countrymen and being in public in Africa in your uniform would make you a giant target. Two totally different scenarios.[/QUOTE] I was talking about being on TDY as a civilian, so I'm just some white guy wearing normal clothes, not a target for military action. Not seeing how whether they're my countrymen or not is relevant. I guess I should be super offended if the hospital wants me to move, not harming me in any way, and instead demand my god-given right to provoke some needless and easily preventable confrontation? What's the point?
I think it's important to note that the Hospital said that an incident involving someone uniformed happened previously which is why they did it. If you actually read the article, but of course click bait title and a good dash of "If u dont like our country u can git out!" is always nice.
This because we bend over backwards to please the very cultures that flatly refuse to see outside of their own culture. Imagine sitting in an A&E dept in say Saudi Arabia/Cairo/Iran and moaning about being offended by their military. [QUOTE]“He went round the corner not to make a fuss but then another member of staff asked him to move again in case anyone saw him because he was in uniform. “He said 'why should I move', and they said because your uniform might upset people, we have all kinds of different cultures coming in and you might upset them.”[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/raf-sergeant-asked-to-move-from-hospital-waiting-room-in-case-his-uniform-caused-offence-a2956836.html"]Source[/URL]
That is just apologist claptrap. It comes from the same wrong headed mindset that appears to have made the staff in this hospital take this ridiculous, bigoted and discrimatory action against this patient. So if it had been a fireman or a traffic warden would that have caused them to be hidden? Of course it wouldn't, this is discrimination against our armed forces, no more, no less. Please remember who is guarding the walls while your asleep in your comfy bed. [editline]29th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Awesomecaek;48765010]I feel like it's less about offending and more about distressing. Keep in mind hospital can have lot of very vulnerable, anxious, sometimes delusional people around and that's normal, and seeing a soldier with burns on his face in full combat uniform can be spooky for some elderly lady on dialysis, which can be objectively bad for her health. It's not like he was refused a treatment or was paid less attention than anybody else, quite the contrary. A hospital isn't a tanning bed saloon and if a doctor needs you somewhere else for whatever reason, you should leave it to their judgement.[/QUOTE] [editline]29th September 2015[/editline] I'm sorry people, but none of you seem to be getting the point. This is not an isolated incident where members of our armed forces have been deliberately discriminated against for daring to wear their uniform (as other posts have tried to educate some of you, it is discrimination, look it up in the dictionary). This type of discrimination seems to have become fairly common and whatever the reasoning behind it (right or wrong obviously depends on your point of view) it needs to stop. These guys and girls guard the walls while we sleep soundly in our beds and need to be treated with respect. It's people who find them offensive that should be moved to alternative places. Preferably outside the UK.
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